xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#21625 Oct 31, 2013
Fact Time wrote:
<quoted text>
No, no. In the real world, you got a tax break and taxes were at the lowest they had been in 50 years when the Tea Baggers were crying "Taxed Enough Already". Don't you remember? The internet does and will forever...you know. The doom of the GOP.
Don't you remember? I already posted a factcheck article that says you are lying.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#21626 Oct 31, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Cynical? I have an unlimited plan & probably do not use 200 talk minutes per month plus unlimited texting. I spend $35 per month which is not a bad deal.
IF someone is hunting for a job, they could use 100's of minutes per month after month. At least WE aren't paying for their internet too which may be next.
LOOK, I have too many in-laws that are as useful as running shoes on a snail so I know the routine. They even tell each other as to which case worker to see or avoid & how to fill out forms. They collectively work the system. That's my problem & your problem, too little over site as to who is entitled to what.
I am very glad that they are in-laws & not blood.
Well that's the problem. There is no oversight. Politicians (particularly Democrat politicians) give people what they want. You give people what they want, and they will vote for you. The more people you give to, the more votes you get.

Five years of DumBama, and we have more people in poverty then before he came along, more people on food stamps, yes, more Obama phones out there, more people on SS disability. How did that happen during the most miraculous economic recovery known to man?

It's like Rush Limbaugh always says "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't."
Pops

Newport, KY

#21627 Oct 31, 2013
PopsIsAWeasel wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen up and put in your Sunday teeth, you fetid adult diaper full of corporate agendas, stuck to the wheel of a Hovaround.
No one blames you for being absolutely ashamed of being a greedy, racist, hypocrite Republican. All of America agrees you should be, but do you have to lie all the time? It's bedtime for you Bonzo. Your all white 1950's Mayberry for Jesus trip has been put out to pasture, you clammy old onion.
Once again; name calling mental mud

Since: Aug 12

United States

#21628 Oct 31, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
As a boy, I lived on a farm. We lived there because we farmed the land, not because we didn't appreciate modern conveniences. We didn't have running water. That meant we had to use an outhouse. A bath meant we had to get water from the well, and heat it on our wood burning stove. Did we like it? No.
Without the roads we wouldn't have been able to get our crops to market.(Thank that crazy liberal Eisenhower for the interstate system, which now provides your livelihood.)
We were very grateful for electricity and the telephone (neither of which we could have afforded if we had to string our own lines.) When there were emergencies, the telephone was often a life saver(literally.) I'm glad that the folks in government back then didn't share your ideas about rural life.
You're crazy as hell. I grew up on a farm too and i still own the 400 acres my gr gr grandpa put together when he got home from the civil war. For what I pay in taxes my roads should be paved in gold! And furhermore your crop reaches world market by rails which aren't government owned. They're privately owned!!

Since: Aug 12

United States

#21629 Oct 31, 2013
Open wide Fact time wrote:
<quoted text>
Blah blah blah, the poor little CEO sob story you have been trained so well to parrot. Take your pie chart and apply it to how the "job creators" wealth and bonuses have grown exponentially while the average household income has flat lined. Let's see a pie chart of the huge and growing gap between the haves and the have nots. Let's see some graphics on how long our nation has been an underpaid temp workforce for decades before Obama was president and how many of the same corporations that cry about health insurance haven't even been paying for it because it is covered by the temp hiring service. Those treasonous companies fled America in search of cheap labor as a direct result of their ever growing greed and it had nothing to do with this free loading American work force you Tea Baggers dream about so much. I have seen with my own eyes co-workers cutting off fingers, being burnt with molten steel as their asbestos fire suits were burning, people being burnt with acid, stuff pansy @ssed trust fund boys like you couldn't even imagine. Don't tell me or any working man in these parts about your corporate fetch boy Tea Bagger "job creators have it so rough" bullsh1t because American workers and voters have made it very clear to you and your 30% approval rating that they aren't buying it.
Your gap between haves and have nots is directly attributable to the growing corporate tax. Daimler Chrysler headquartered in Germany and not the US strictly due to their tax liability was nearly 30% less. Of course they were going to take tthose jobs with them. Thanks dems.

And the dems say...... awww shucks, misery loves company.
UdintEarnThat

Canton, OH

#21630 Oct 31, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
You're crazy as hell. I grew up on a farm too and i still own the 400 acres my gr gr grandpa put together when he got home from the civil war. For what I pay in taxes my roads should be paved in gold! And furhermore your crop reaches world market by rails which aren't government owned. They're privately owned!!
So the guy who had 400 acres handed to him is crying about what?
Pops

Newport, KY

#21631 Oct 31, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
The federal tax revenue pie chart is less than 12% made up of corporate taxes.
When you tax a corporation more that's the first expense passed on to consumers as embedded taxes. It only makes corporations the tax collector. The individual consumer is ALWAYS the one who gets stabbed in the neck. And workers lose their jobs.
When people want to tax corporations more thats only incentive for them to take jobs and leave the country.
With the pie chart only 12% corp taxes, why not just lower corp taxes to zero and suck in corporations from around the world and make it so everyone who wants a job can have one? If and when there becomes a shortage of workers look at what wages did in N.Dakota recently.
This is long past stating, again & again for some people. Especially the ones that do not realize that EVERY expense incurred by a corporation MUST be passed on to the end consumer or they must close their doors. Economics 101.
The CEO's will always get there's or move to another company. duh
Keep telling them!
Pops

Newport, KY

#21632 Oct 31, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
You're crazy as hell. I grew up on a farm too and i still own the 400 acres my gr gr grandpa put together when he got home from the civil war. For what I pay in taxes my roads should be paved in gold! And furhermore your crop reaches world market by rails which aren't government owned. They're privately owned!!
Had it handed to you!?!?
Canton doesn't realize that when one grows up on a farm that they start doing chores at a young age & then actual hard work as soon as they can depending on what the farm produces. He also doesn't realize that farming is 365 days a year. And that when the weather is the worst it often requires the hardest work in dangerous storms, snow, ice, floods, varmints of all sorts, molds, invading insects, etc.
Forgive him, He's simply proving what sort of mean mouth moron he is by NOT knowing that his produce, chicken, eggs & burgers come from somewhere B4 the grocery store.
Pops

Newport, KY

#21633 Oct 31, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Well that's the problem. There is no oversight. Politicians (particularly Democrat politicians) give people what they want. You give people what they want, and they will vote for you. The more people you give to, the more votes you get.

It's like Rush Limbaugh always says "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't."
EXACTLY !!

Since: Aug 12

United States

#21634 Oct 31, 2013
UdintEarnThat wrote:
<quoted text>
So the guy who had 400 acres handed to him is crying about what?
You see everything as lifes lottery. Most times its obvious who deserves to NOT win. That being you.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#21635 Oct 31, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>This is long past stating, again & again for some people. Especially the ones that do not realize that EVERY expense incurred by a corporation MUST be passed on to the end consumer or they must close their doors. Economics 101.
The CEO's will always get there's or move to another company. duh
Keep telling them!
CEO's get paid by how good of a job they do just like you or I. If a CEO saves a company 12 million dollars, than without a doubt, he or she will share in some of that profit they made for the company.

The worker on the other hand only produces and is paid by how much he can produce in an hours time. If the worker produces more thus making the company a little more profit, he or she will likely make more than those that produce less.

Workers are not paid by how profitable the company is. If one believes that they should get paid according to the profit a company makes, then they should only work jobs that offer profit sharing or perhaps buy stock in the company they work for.

Speaking of consumers though, it's the consumer that drives the demand for lower priced cheaper products--not the CEO. The CEO's job is to make the company the most money he or she can. If the CEO can't do that, then the company lets him go and they hire somebody that can. On the other hand, a great CEO has a price he will work for. If a company doesn't want to pay the CEO that salary, the companies competitor will. It's no different than a famous musician looking at a recording contract, a star quarterback or a famous actor or actress.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#21636 Oct 31, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Had it handed to you!?!?
Canton doesn't realize that when one grows up on a farm that they start doing chores at a young age & then actual hard work as soon as they can depending on what the farm produces. He also doesn't realize that farming is 365 days a year. And that when the weather is the worst it often requires the hardest work in dangerous storms, snow, ice, floods, varmints of all sorts, molds, invading insects, etc.
Forgive him, He's simply proving what sort of mean mouth moron he is by NOT knowing that his produce, chicken, eggs & burgers come from somewhere B4 the grocery store.
Yeah the more time goes by the less I wonder why Canton Ohio and that whole part of the country looks like its straight out of the 19th century. Everyone there is soo totally backward minded.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#21637 Oct 31, 2013
I won't forgive him though. Hes a proll and he can rot in his own squalor for all I care. Joe McCarthy warned about this and he was right. And it was Khrushchev that said we would defeat you without firing a shot. Both are coming to fruition.

Wonder what happened to Cantons farm he grew up on.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#21638 Oct 31, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
CEO's get paid by how good of a job they do just like you or I. If a CEO saves a company 12 million dollars, than without a doubt, he or she will share in some of that profit they made for the company.
The worker on the other hand only produces and is paid by how much he can produce in an hours time. If the worker produces more thus making the company a little more profit, he or she will likely make more than those that produce less.
Workers are not paid by how profitable the company is. If one believes that they should get paid according to the profit a company makes, then they should only work jobs that offer profit sharing or perhaps buy stock in the company they work for.
Speaking of consumers though, it's the consumer that drives the demand for lower priced cheaper products--not the CEO. The CEO's job is to make the company the most money he or she can. If the CEO can't do that, then the company lets him go and they hire somebody that can. On the other hand, a great CEO has a price he will work for. If a company doesn't want to pay the CEO that salary, the companies competitor will. It's no different than a famous musician looking at a recording contract, a star quarterback or a famous actor or actress.
Anymore its how vast a CEO s network of lobbyists are as well.If his lobbyists can get special favors from politicians no matter dem or rep, if he can save a company 50 million dollars in tax liability its worth paying the ceo half that.

That's what peons like canton NEVER can see. Theyll never read books to find that the Fair Tax would negate all that Bullshitt. Theyd sooner just take everyone's money and divide it up evenly cause somehow its their belief that they too will live like Doctors and Lawyers all of a sudden.

That's another part about people like Canton. They can't do the math to realize that if we divide up Bill Gates 75 billion dollar fortune it only amounts to 231 bucks per person in the US. Woot.... I guess Canton would be livin high on the hog with 231 bucks but ffor normal people that won't go far.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#21639 Oct 31, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
Anymore its how vast a CEO s network of lobbyists are as well.If his lobbyists can get special favors from politicians no matter dem or rep, if he can save a company 50 million dollars in tax liability its worth paying the ceo half that.
That's what peons like canton NEVER can see. Theyll never read books to find that the Fair Tax would negate all that Bullshitt. Theyd sooner just take everyone's money and divide it up evenly cause somehow its their belief that they too will live like Doctors and Lawyers all of a sudden.
That's another part about people like Canton. They can't do the math to realize that if we divide up Bill Gates 75 billion dollar fortune it only amounts to 231 bucks per person in the US. Woot.... I guess Canton would be livin high on the hog with 231 bucks but ffor normal people that won't go far.
Not to mention that even if some benevolent company divided that CEO's pay among the workers, the CEO would leave. It's the CEO that creates the work for the producers. Then when a competitor hires that CEO and takes the business away from his former company, all those workers would be out of a job.

Yes, a CEO does have political ties. He or she has business ties. He or she has international ties. It's all those ties that make a CEO more valuable. It's years and years of work called Climbing Up The Ladder. Those who get to the top of that ladder earn the highest salary.
Pops

Newport, KY

#21640 Oct 31, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah the more time goes by the less I wonder why Canton Ohio and that whole part of the country looks like its straight out of the 19th century. Everyone there is so totally backward minded.
And yet Canton Ohio is surrounded by farms. Amazing that 'Canton' is so clueless.
.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#21641 Oct 31, 2013
Go to any city around there though and the mindset is mindboggling. Akron, Massilon, East Liverpool. At least in Sugar Creek you could expect to step back in time a century or so. But the others too now???
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#21642 Oct 31, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
You're crazy as hell. I grew up on a farm too and i still own the 400 acres my gr gr grandpa put together when he got home from the civil war.
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah the more time goes by the less I wonder why Canton Ohio and that whole part of the country looks like its straight out of the 19th century. Everyone there is soo totally backward minded.
Yes, I hear that there are some folks that haven't progressed much since the fall of the Confederacy.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#21643 Oct 31, 2013
The difference is going back in time when you go to Sugar Creek was to a time there was a mutual respect between everyone and going back in time in Canton is to the time unions controlled everything. You can keep that shitt.
TrustFundCryBaby

Canton, OH

#21644 Oct 31, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
You see everything as lifes lottery. Most times its obvious who deserves to NOT win. That being you.
You won, huh? Tell it to the last two presidential elections. I grew up working on a farm also. You and Pops go flap your chops to that one. The bottom line is you got handed a huge amount of money in the form of land. Now cry about how the working man is a free loader or some other anti-American garbage you have no right to have an opinion on. I EARNED everything I own. You and your hand me down success story? Not so much.

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