Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20771 Sep 29, 2013
PG13forU wrote:
<quoted text>
No, my point is you guys sound exactly like Timothy McVeigh. A point you cannot refute. Anything else you ramble about is just you trying to muddy the waters on that fact.
Oh, back to Timothy McVeigh again?

Well since you love quotes so much, try this one on for size:

"In the wake of the Newtown massacre, polls show the great majority of Americans are now insisting that the ability to live free from the fear or threat of gun violence is a fundamental democratic right – one that far supercedes any so-called personal gun rights allegedly contained in the Second Amendment.

In fact, the right-wing extremists opposing all efforts to curb gun violence are the same forces that rallied behind Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, hoping to undermine every other democratic right as well as the living standards of workers and ordinary Americans. It is for that reason, as well as the need to protect public safety, that the same coalition of labor and its allies that worked so hard and effectively to re-elect President Barack Obama must now go all-out to back his s for gun law reform.

As Obama has charged, the extremists recklessly “gin up fear” that the government is coming to take away hunting rifles and personal weapons owned for legitimate self-defense. Led by the hate-mongering leadership of the National Rifle Association, they use a totally fraudulent and only very recent interpretations of the Second Amendment which they falsely claim as necessary for protecting every other freedom contained in the Bill of Rights….

Actually, the Second Amendment wasn’t enacted with any of these things in mind. The amendment was adopted as a means to enable the new American republic, lacking a standing army or state national guards, to muster militia to put down domestic uprisings, including slave revolts, to repulse any attempted return by the British and to deal with clashes with Native Americans on the expanding frontier. These issues vanished long ago. The Second Amendment is obsolete and now has been twisted to threaten the basic safety and security of all Americans."

Now this sounds something like Joe Biden or Barack Obama woulds say. Maybe even Nazi Piglosi. But guess who made this statement (and more if you care to click on the link)? This is a quote from Rick Nagin, head of The Ohio Communist Party and National board Member of the US Communist party.

http://patriotaction.net/profiles/blogs/commu...
govenor

Portsmouth, OH

#20772 Sep 29, 2013
Democrat.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20773 Sep 29, 2013
Now, every time you bring up quotes from Timothy McVeigh, I'm going to bring up more quotes from Rick Nagin. And trust me, he has made many statements just like the above.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#20774 Sep 29, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>And who do YOU sound like?"...the Tea Party can go straight to hell!" Does that make you you & her the same?
That's the same argument that you are posing. But maybe your answer is yes.
Try this little factoid....ALL poodles are dogs but not ALL dogs are poodles.
In other words...Timothy McVeigh may have been a conservative but NOT ALL conservatives are Timothy McVeigh.
Or then there's this one... Canton might be a *^&%# but not ALL *^&%#'s are Canton. Digest that one *^&%#.
As far as I'm concerned they can go straight there. They are obsessed with controlling women's bodies and dictating to doctors about women's choices that they have no business sticking their nose in.
Tim Huelskamp(R-KS) stuck an amendment to the budget battle that they created that would allow employers and insurers to opt out of preventative care for women if the employer or insurer finds that they are objectionable on moral or religious grounds. What does that have to do with a budget? Yet who screams the loudest about unwanted babies that could have been prevented. Who keeps de-funding Planned Parenthood that provides women's health services for all different kinds of women's health issues,while all the while screaming about welfare babies? Hate to burst your bubble but most women aren't as stupid as you think they are.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#20775 Sep 29, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it was, and it's going to get worse than better. Since DumBama took office, median household incomes are lower. That's not a good sign.
There is light at the end of the tunnel though. Because our wages went down and China's is up, there is work coming back to the US. It seems as though shipping is an issue. Because of the wage changes, American companies are finding it more advantageous to produce here because their customers are here. Now if we were still a strong union country, those jobs would have stayed overseas. Over 30% more manufacturing is coming back from overseas than last year.
Your so dumb it's not even funny. Fox News hasn't covered that the Chinese workers are demanding and organizing, demanding higher wages and working conditions and getting them so that it is becoming cheaper to bring those jobs back here. They're getting tired of being treated like slaves over there. Does Foxx Conn ring a bell? Probably not to you. Enjoy your lonely, bitter night.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20776 Sep 29, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Your so dumb it's not even funny. Fox News hasn't covered that the Chinese workers are demanding and organizing, demanding higher wages and working conditions and getting them so that it is becoming cheaper to bring those jobs back here. They're getting tired of being treated like slaves over there. Does Foxx Conn ring a bell? Probably not to you. Enjoy your lonely, bitter night.
Where did I say it was a Fox report? I guess you just assumed that being a brainwashed victim.

No.... this was a CNN report copied by Channel 19 news here in Cleveland. And yes, the Chinese workers are going for higher wages just like the US workers did during the strong union movement. And like the US workers, these Chinese are losing work to competitors.

Being a liberal, it's not surprising you didn't draw the line. Lower wages means more jobs. Higher wages for people doing menial work means less jobs.

Perhaps visit one of your public school teachers about the subject. Maybe they will be able to explain it to you in terms you can understand.
Pops

Newport, KY

#20777 Sep 29, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>As far as I'm concerned they can go straight there. They are obsessed with controlling women's bodies and dictating to doctors about women's choices that they have no business sticking their nose in.
Tim Huelskamp(R-KS) stuck an amendment to the budget battle that they created that would allow employers and insurers to opt out of preventative care for women if the employer or insurer finds that they are objectionable on moral or religious grounds. What does that have to do with a budget? Yet who screams the loudest about unwanted babies that could have been prevented. Who keeps de-funding Planned Parenthood that provides women's health services for all different kinds of women's health issues,while all the while screaming about welfare babies? Hate to burst your bubble but most women aren't as stupid as you think they are.
Actually, you could hardly be more wrong. True Libertarians are for total choice. Go ahead & have an abortion, snort whatever drug that you want, follow whatever religion that you want even if it means handling snakes or having 20 spouses etc etc.
There is NO desire to control others, in fact Libertarians allow that everyone is RESPONSABLE for their own decisions. Be that schooling, drugs, arms, home buying, abortion, & more.
They just expect that people follow their own convictions & do NOT create excuses on the back of others NOR do they BLAME others when things come out undesirably.
It would be your or your families blame if YOU died from a drug OD.
Micheal Jackson HUGH family has sued his doctor for his death. How about Micheal's HUGH family? Does one NOT think that they had no idea as to what was going on?
Point being....accept responsability for ones personal decisions.
Don't expect society to provide the parachutes & safety nets.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20778 Sep 29, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, you could hardly be more wrong. True Libertarians are for total choice.
"Libertarian Republican United States House of Representatives' member Ron Paul calls for overturning Roe v. Wade and letting the states decide the issue. His son, Republican Senator Rand Paul, calls himself "totally pro-life" and supports "any and all legislation that would end abortion or lead us in the direction of ending abortion." In 2008, the Libertarian Party candidate for president was Bob Barr who has called abortion "murder" and opposed legalized abortion."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_pers...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#20779 Sep 30, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>As far as I'm concerned they can go straight there. They are obsessed with controlling women's bodies and dictating to doctors about women's choices that they have no business sticking their nose in.
Tim Huelskamp(R-KS) stuck an amendment to the budget battle that they created that would allow employers and insurers to opt out of preventative care for women if the employer or insurer finds that they are objectionable on moral or religious grounds. What does that have to do with a budget? Yet who screams the loudest about unwanted babies that could have been prevented. Who keeps de-funding Planned Parenthood that provides women's health services for all different kinds of women's health issues,while all the while screaming about welfare babies? Hate to burst your bubble but most women aren't as stupid as you think they are.
you are a nut job plain and simple.

Women do not have the choice to murder, and get a pass on it.

Men do not have a pass on murder either.

Murder is a sin listed in the 10 commandments.

Abortion is murder, even if liberals say it is not.

Abortion is not a medical procedure.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#20780 Sep 30, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
you are a nut job plain and simple.
Women do not have the choice to murder, and get a pass on it.
Men do not have a pass on murder either.
Murder is a sin listed in the 10 commandments.
Abortion is murder, even if liberals say it is not.
Abortion is not a medical procedure.
If you even got a high school diploma, turn it back in and start over.
TimmyAndYou

Canton, OH

#20781 Sep 30, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, back to Timothy McVeigh again?
Well since you love quotes so much, try this one on for size:
"In the wake of the Newtown massacre, polls show the great majority of Americans are now insisting that the ability to live free from the fear or threat of gun violence is a fundamental democratic right – one that far supercedes any so-called personal gun rights allegedly contained in the Second Amendment.
In fact, the right-wing extremists opposing all efforts to curb gun violence are the same forces that rallied behind Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, hoping to undermine every other democratic right as well as the living standards of workers and ordinary Americans. It is for that reason, as well as the need to protect public safety, that the same coalition of labor and its allies that worked so hard and effectively to re-elect President Barack Obama must now go all-out to back his s for gun law reform.
As Obama has charged, the extremists recklessly “gin up fear” that the government is coming to take away hunting rifles and personal weapons owned for legitimate self-defense. Led by the hate-mongering leadership of the National Rifle Association, they use a totally fraudulent and only very recent interpretations of the Second Amendment which they falsely claim as necessary for protecting every other freedom contained in the Bill of Rights….
Actually, the Second Amendment wasn’t enacted with any of these things in mind. The amendment was adopted as a means to enable the new American republic, lacking a standing army or state national guards, to muster militia to put down domestic uprisings, including slave revolts, to repulse any attempted return by the British and to deal with clashes with Native Americans on the expanding frontier. These issues vanished long ago. The Second Amendment is obsolete and now has been twisted to threaten the basic safety and security of all Americans."
Now this sounds something like Joe Biden or Barack Obama woulds say. Maybe even Nazi Piglosi. But guess who made this statement (and more if you care to click on the link)? This is a quote from Rick Nagin, head of The Ohio Communist Party and National board Member of the US Communist party.
http://patriotaction.net/profiles/blogs/commu...
Who? Some local commie wants to take your guns? Ooooh that's right up there with murdering children. You know, like how the Tea Party hero Timothy McVeigh did.
TimmyAndYou

Canton, OH

#20782 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>And who do YOU sound like?"...the Tea Party can go straight to hell!" Does that make you you & her the same?
That's the same argument that you are posing. But maybe your answer is yes.
Try this little factoid....ALL poodles are dogs but not ALL dogs are poodles.
In other words...Timothy McVeigh may have been a conservative but NOT ALL conservatives are Timothy McVeigh.
Or then there's this one... Canton might be a *^&%# but not ALL *^&%#'s are Canton. Digest that one *^&%#.
Awwwwww it's little Pops "Don't call me names" Hypocrite McVeigh
TimmyAndYou

Canton, OH

#20783 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>WHO is doing the raving?!? WHO makes up more than EVERYONE else combined? WHO calls names MORE than everyone else combined? WHO is constantly calling other people liars without a thimble of evidence?
YOU spew all of this name calling tripe when you don't have to be face to face. I don't know about XXX & others, But I would love to play 'slap & tickle' with you one on one. And I promise that YOU would be disappointed *^&%#.
Actually, I have not only caught you lying more than once but proved you were doing it. Remember how you "misspoke" when I busted you? That's your problem, old clown. You can't remember what you ate for breakfast this morning.
TimmyAndYou

Canton, OH

#20784 Sep 30, 2013
You guys should stick to your noble battles of honor. Like stopping Big Bird and PBS or battling the evil's of higher efficiency light bulbs.
PopsOut2Pasture

Canton, OH

#20785 Sep 30, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>WHO is doing the raving?!? WHO makes up more than EVERYONE else combined? WHO calls names MORE than everyone else combined? WHO is constantly calling other people liars without a thimble of evidence?
YOU spew all of this name calling tripe when you don't have to be face to face. I don't know about XXX & others, But I would love to play 'slap & tickle' with you one on one. And I promise that YOU would be disappointed *^&%#.
Yep, more threats of violence from you guys. Same, withered, sad old story. Considering how you guys walk in the footsteps of a child murderer, I can't say your violent outbursts surprise me.
TimmyMcTruckDriv er

Canton, OH

#20786 Sep 30, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
Now, every time you bring up quotes from Timothy McVeigh, I'm going to bring up more quotes from Rick Nagin. And trust me, he has made many statements just like the above.
That would sting a little more if I had ever mentioned my personal views on gun control, seeing I am a gun owner or was even a "Liberal" for that matter, let alone a "Communist". I simply stated how much alike you and Timmy McTeaBagger are

Now when it comes to things like the Federal Government, Gun control, Taxes, wanting a smaller government, or being a staunch believer in the Constitution, you and Timothy McVeigh line up like two little peas in a pod. All snuggly like.

Of course you weren't crying when Bush was raping our Constitution so I can't completely be sure that Timmy McTeaBagger was a hypocrite like yourself.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20787 Sep 30, 2013
TimmyMcTruckDriver wrote:
<quoted text>
That would sting a little more if I had ever mentioned my personal views on gun control, seeing I am a gun owner or was even a "Liberal" for that matter, let alone a "Communist". I simply stated how much alike you and Timmy McTeaBagger are
Now when it comes to things like the Federal Government, Gun control, Taxes, wanting a smaller government, or being a staunch believer in the Constitution, you and Timothy McVeigh line up like two little peas in a pod. All snuggly like.
Of course you weren't crying when Bush was raping our Constitution so I can't completely be sure that Timmy McTeaBagger was a hypocrite like yourself.
Bush was raping our Constitution? Who's reading your e-mails today? Bush?

It was bad enough that government wanted their take with just about every transaction, sale or earnings, but thanks to your fearless leader, this is the first time in American history that federal government is taxing people for not buying something.

So do tell, what rape was Bush involved in that DumBama isn't today? Did Bush ever decide to change a law without going through the Constitutional channels such as Congress and Senate?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20788 Sep 30, 2013
TimmyAndYou wrote:
You guys should stick to your noble battles of honor. Like stopping Big Bird and PBS or battling the evil's of higher efficiency light bulbs.
Go build a midnight basketball court or petition your Congress person about how much water our toilets use.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20789 Sep 30, 2013
TimmyAndYou wrote:
<quoted text>
Who? Some local commie wants to take your guns? Ooooh that's right up there with murdering children. You know, like how the Tea Party hero Timothy McVeigh did.
Naah, just pointing out the similarities between Communists and so-called progressives. Actually, there is very little difference between them.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20790 Sep 30, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
"Libertarian Republican United States House of Representatives' member Ron Paul calls for overturning Roe v. Wade and letting the states decide the issue. His son, Republican Senator Rand Paul, calls himself "totally pro-life" and supports "any and all legislation that would end abortion or lead us in the direction of ending abortion." In 2008, the Libertarian Party candidate for president was Bob Barr who has called abortion "murder" and opposed legalized abortion."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_pers...
Their argument is similar to the GOPs argument about abortion.

Abortion is a moral decision, but the problem Libertarians and conservatives have is how it's protected. Both believe in the letter of the law when it comes to the US Constitution. Much like Church and State, there is no mention of abortion rights in the document.

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