Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19941 Aug 14, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>
Now this post can be judged as mean! lol
You're right. Don't let this place make you mean.

"Down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid."
REALAmerican

Canton, OH

#19942 Aug 14, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
He could answer, but it would hurt too much.
Now I found out today from another driver in our company the federal government is going to take away CDL's from drivers that have over 20% body fat. We are already turning into a Communist Country. This is what happens when you don't fight the federal government from overtaking industries.
Where will these working people go once the federal government steals the food off of their table because they are unable to lose the weight? That's right, SS disability more than likely. Another piece of the pie for government to take more control over our personal lives.
Gee, I wonder if the government will tell people on food stamps or welfare they must have under 20% body fat to continue aid? Naaah. They are already dependent on government and Democrat leadership to get their goodies. Don't punish those people; punish the self-reliant producers of this country by taking away their livelihood.
Right...where you are an all American, flag waving Patriot when you talk about getting rid of Unions. Who else likes to break up the Unions and trample workers rights? That's right. Now I remember. You and Communist China agree whole heartedly when it comes to not supporting the working man. The bottom line is the Obama administration hasn't hurt the way you were living one speck. You are unable to admit just how absolutely abysmal this country was under GW Bush. You and your camp flitter back and forth, desperately grasping at any sky is falling, emailed whack-job Tea Bagger conspiracy they dish out to you. Making yourself more and more invalid with every fake scandal and obstructionist ploy, all in the hopes that you can make the black man in the Whitehouse seem like an ineffective President. You gleefully watch your religion and your values whored out to a corporate, while at the same time, blurting out your greed based hatred of the poor in this country. All awhile, the majority of Americans outside your Fox News bubble become sicker and sicker of your anti-American views, and your racist based unwillingness to try to make this country a better place. You guys dragged America down with your ignorance for 8 years of unfounded wars, hidden torture camps, and Jesus for crude oil sales pitches. Good luck EVER being viewed as anything but a kookie, doomsday Bible bunker, Red Scare 2.0, Tea Bagging fringe group. You guys earned it.
REALAmerican

Canton, OH

#19943 Aug 14, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> It seems that you are right. There is no way that my posts #19937 & 19938 could be judged 'racy or mean' & it is probably Canton, possibly the weakest, blindest & witless person on this sight.
Now this post can be judged as mean! lol
Shut up old fool. Go put your Sunday teeth in when you ramble your paranoid visions of me caring about your judge icons. Believe it or not, it is a fact that the majority of Americans agree with me and not your kookie little Tea Party, so it could have been anyone. You and your beliefs are still just an adult diaper, stuck to the wheel of a Hoveround to me and the majority of hard working Americans. Get out of the way, old clown, racist trust fund boy and corporate fetch boy truck driver. The big boys have a country to put back together after you voted in the worst president in history...twice.
REALAmerican

Canton, OH

#19944 Aug 14, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>You still prove my point that you base your statement of 'most' on NO facts whatsoever or you wouldn't still be making me part of your poll. AND that is after your additional statement that you base your opinion/previos post on me with OUT knowing my position. ROFLMAO !!
You probably also believe that WE don't have a spending problem, WE have a 'failure to pay for' problem. Or that taxes have not been raised, that has been 'revenue enhancement'. You probaly believe that 'Stimulus Spending' or 'Quantitative Easing' had no affect on the debt too.
You are funnier than a Missouri State Fair Rodeo Clown !!
Still though...you get Social Security and you personally want it done away with. No thanks, old clown. I paid into it my whole working life also and I'm really not interested in your selfish agendas.

Boy.. you showed me. I mean other than the part where I once again proved you to be a rambling hypocrite.
Pops

Newport, KY

#19945 Aug 14, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right. Don't let this place make you mean.
"Down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid."
This site wouldn't truly make me mean, I am proud to have developed too much patience to let name calling, stupidity, or anything else like that make me mean. I deal too closely with the public & have for a very long time.
However, I have to admit to being 'tarnished' but maybe not as you intend the word use.
Canton has the right to be a putz under to the 1st amendment. And I accept that.
Pops

Newport, KY

#19946 Aug 14, 2013
See what I mean from post #19943?
From my posts, Canton has NO good idea as to my party affiliation, whether or not I have any sort of trust fund, false teeth, wear diapers, drive a truck, ride a hover round, my personal race or if I am a racist to any degree, white, black, Asian, bi-racial or even my accurate age.
The funniest part is that ALL of this is true & that Canton is totally clueless. Again, ROFLMAO
I do also KNOW this tho, people that resort to repetitive name calling & or make baseless claims have NO logical position to voice. So their words are also baseless. How could one knowing that become 'mean' about that?
Pops

Newport, KY

#19947 Aug 14, 2013
REALAmerican wrote:
<quoted text>
Right...where you are an all American, flag waving Patriot when you talk about getting rid of Unions. Who else likes to break up the Unions and trample workers rights? The bottom line is the Obama administration hasn't hurt the way you were living one speck. You are unable to admit just how absolutely abysmal this country was under GW Bush.....fake scandal and obstructionist ploy, all in the hopes that you can make the black man in the Whitehouse seem like an ineffective President. You gleefully watch your religion and your values whored out to a corporate, while at the same time, blurting out your greed based hatred of the poor in this country. All awhile, the majority of Americans outside your Fox News bubble become sicker and sicker of your anti-American views, and your racist based unwillingness to try to make this country a better place. You guys dragged America down with your ignorance for 8 years of unfounded wars, hidden torture camps, and Jesus for crude oil sales pitches. Good luck EVER being viewed as anything but a kookie, doomsday Bible bunker, Red Scare 2.0, Tea Bagging fringe group. You guys earned it.
XXX said NOTHING about getting rid of unions, only their affect on jobs & the economy.
The Obama admin HAS affected the entire economy by chasing more jobs over seas & NOT coming even close to getting unemployment under 6 or 7% as PROMISED!! How about cutting the deficit in 1/2 in 1 term? How about NO tax increases? How about "pay as we go"?
I have seen NO racist comments by XXX.
Unfounded wars? We are out of Iraq but that was on the schedule already. Obama has us entwined insecurely with Libya, Egypt & Syria right now & was the driver of the 30,000 'surge'. Only to mention the Fast & Furious. He also PROMISED to close Gitmo.
Jesus for crude oil?? What the bleep does that mean?
Then there's his promise that Obama Care would reduce premiums overall medical costs. What a laughable so called promise. Unions, the Senate & Congress are exempted among others. The Amish are exempt for reasons of religious beliefs but he goes after Catholics!
He butts into the Harvard prof episode denigrating the police force & Trayvon Martin case on the 1st or 2nd day right out of the gate before knowing squat of facts.
He played more golf in his 1st term than Bush played in 2 terms.
Many people (you included) keep playing the race card about Obama when he is 50% white, 50% black so what is with that??
Obama doesn't even know how to spell transparency let alone practice it.
You need to stay away from Agent Orange. I am so happy to NOT be a part of your family tree. That could be my birthday present from now until forever!
PopsIsAWeasel

Canton, OH

#19948 Aug 15, 2013
Pops wrote:
See what I mean from post #19943?
From my posts, Canton has NO good idea as to my party affiliation, whether or not I have any sort of trust fund, false teeth, wear diapers, drive a truck, ride a hover round, my personal race or if I am a racist to any degree, white, black, Asian, bi-racial or even my accurate age.
The funniest part is that ALL of this is true & that Canton is totally clueless. Again, ROFLMAO
I do also KNOW this tho, people that resort to repetitive name calling & or make baseless claims have NO logical position to voice. So their words are also baseless. How could one knowing that become 'mean' about that?
Yes, I'm so clueless to call a guy who voted Republican his entire life, a Republican. Once again. Can't blame you guys for being ashamed of what you stand for. You can call white Rightwing Conservative Republicans the Tea Party, Libertarians, Constitutionalists or the tooth fairy for all I care. Just don't believe for a second that I, or the majority of voting Americans are buying it. We all know you guys are just covering your tracks that lead right to GW Bush.
PopsIsAWeasel

Canton, OH

#19949 Aug 15, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>XXX said NOTHING about getting rid of unions, only their affect on jobs & the economy.
The Obama admin HAS affected the entire economy by chasing more jobs over seas & NOT coming even close to getting unemployment under 6 or 7% as PROMISED!! How about cutting the deficit in 1/2 in 1 term? How about NO tax increases? How about "pay as we go"?
I have seen NO racist comments by XXX.
Unfounded wars? We are out of Iraq but that was on the schedule already. Obama has us entwined insecurely with Libya, Egypt & Syria right now & was the driver of the 30,000 'surge'. Only to mention the Fast & Furious. He also PROMISED to close Gitmo.
Jesus for crude oil?? What the bleep does that mean?
Then there's his promise that Obama Care would reduce premiums overall medical costs. What a laughable so called promise. Unions, the Senate & Congress are exempted among others. The Amish are exempt for reasons of religious beliefs but he goes after Catholics!
He butts into the Harvard prof episode denigrating the police force & Trayvon Martin case on the 1st or 2nd day right out of the gate before knowing squat of facts.
He played more golf in his 1st term than Bush played in 2 terms.
Many people (you included) keep playing the race card about Obama when he is 50% white, 50% black so what is with that??
Obama doesn't even know how to spell transparency let alone practice it.
You need to stay away from Agent Orange. I am so happy to NOT be a part of your family tree. That could be my birthday present from now until forever!
I wish I could say you are just playing stupid, but then, you aren't playing.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19950 Aug 15, 2013
PopsIsAWeasel wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I'm so clueless to call a guy who voted Republican his entire life, a Republican. Once again. Can't blame you guys for being ashamed of what you stand for. You can call white Rightwing Conservative Republicans the Tea Party, Libertarians, Constitutionalists or the tooth fairy for all I care. Just don't believe for a second that I, or the majority of voting Americans are buying it. We all know you guys are just covering your tracks that lead right to GW Bush.
You won't find many conservatives embarrassed about calling themselves conservative. How did we arrive at Progressives? Liberal had negative connotations to it, so they changed it from liberal to Progressive. Same thing with Global Warming. What happened to that? Well after it was learned the reverse was happening, they decided to call it Climate Change.

Democrats could never run on what they really believe or what they want to do; larger government, cradle-to-grave society, bringing the wealthy down while making the poor even poorer. Who would vote for that? Well..... you perhaps. But conservatives hide nothing from the public about who we are or what we believe.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19951 Aug 15, 2013
REALAmerican wrote:
<quoted text>
Shut up old fool. Go put your Sunday teeth in when you ramble your paranoid visions of me caring about your judge icons. Believe it or not, it is a fact that the majority of Americans agree with me and not your kookie little Tea Party, so it could have been anyone. You and your beliefs are still just an adult diaper, stuck to the wheel of a Hoveround to me and the majority of hard working Americans. Get out of the way, old clown, racist trust fund boy and corporate fetch boy truck driver. The big boys have a country to put back together after you voted in the worst president in history...twice.
Oh please. When it comes to the worst President, it's you that voted for him twice and he's still trying to ruin this once great country.

Yeah, you have a country to put back together, that's why your Socialist gave Racist Holder a pass so he didn't have to testify what Fast and Furious was about. He gave out waivers to hundreds of companies so they didn't have to suffer the effects of Commie Care. But now that Commie Care is here to stay, he put off the employer mandate and minimum insurance company charges UNITL AFTER THE ELECTION! If Commie Care is so great, why not let the whole thing start right on schedule? We Republicans would welcome that.

Speaking of which, where did this Communist get the idea that the President has the authority to change or manipulate law without going through Congress--that he alone has that ability?

Well what should one expect from an anti-American like DumBama that was supported by the US Communist party during both his elections?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19952 Aug 15, 2013
REALAmerican wrote:
<quoted text>
Right...where you are an all American, flag waving Patriot when you talk about getting rid of Unions. Who else likes to break up the Unions and trample workers rights? That's right. Now I remember. You and Communist China agree whole heartedly when it comes to not supporting the working man. The bottom line is the Obama administration hasn't hurt the way you were living one speck. You are unable to admit just how absolutely abysmal this country was under GW Bush. You and your camp flitter back and forth, desperately grasping at any sky is falling, emailed whack-job Tea Bagger conspiracy they dish out to you. Making yourself more and more invalid with every fake scandal and obstructionist ploy, all in the hopes that you can make the black man in the Whitehouse seem like an ineffective President. You gleefully watch your religion and your values whored out to a corporate, while at the same time, blurting out your greed based hatred of the poor in this country. All awhile, the majority of Americans outside your Fox News bubble become sicker and sicker of your anti-American views, and your racist based unwillingness to try to make this country a better place. You guys dragged America down with your ignorance for 8 years of unfounded wars, hidden torture camps, and Jesus for crude oil sales pitches. Good luck EVER being viewed as anything but a kookie, doomsday Bible bunker, Red Scare 2.0, Tea Bagging fringe group. You guys earned it.
We also earned the turnover of Congressional leadership from Democrat to Republican and held on to that leadership the following election. This on top of the multiple state representatives and Republican Governors that took control. Maybe people are starting to wake up! Maybe they are starting to ask What does Detroit, Cleveland, California and other failed government entities have in common? Democrats.

Don't tell me DumBama hasn't hurt me. He's hurt most Americans. My employer had to cut our healthcare benefits because Commie Care drove his premiums up so high that he couldn't afford them any longer. Our electricity rates are going to increase because of the closing of coal fired power plants and government regulations that the remaining ones allowed to stay open invest millions of dollars towards clean energy. His minions interrupted our business by placing thousands of dollars in fines for drivers caught talking on their Nextel with their dispatcher. Even my cigarettes nearly doubled in price because of this Mulatto. And what did he do with that new money? He funded healthcare for families making up to $80,000 per year. And what about all those full-time workers being cut down to part-time so their employer can escape Commie Care regulations? Those people aren't hurting?

The list goes on and on, but you dare to compare this total incompetent to George W Bush. Talk about blinders.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19953 Aug 15, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>And yet as TRUCK DRIVER, they had to take drug tests but NOT as a 'ward' of the government. How F'd up is that?
Or police officers, union teachers, or just about any other government worker.

Do as I say--not as I do.
Signed
Democrat politicians.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19954 Aug 15, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>That is absolutely insane. Driving is somewhat sedentary so a lot of drivers carry a few pounds too many. Trucking companies are already short of drivers!
Very true, and because of that shortage, we have a lot of foreigners getting into the business, so next time you see a container truck or flatbed behind you, ask yourself if you're comfortable with a foreigner that can't even read our road signs behind you?

20% body fat. The USSR, Red China or Cuba doesn't even have that intrusive government.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19955 Aug 15, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You won't find many conservatives embarrassed about calling themselves conservative. How did we arrive at Progressives? Liberal had negative connotations to it, so they changed it from liberal to Progressive.
The word "liberal" has been demonized by the right. Most conservatives now have no idea what it means, just that they are the enemy, and responsible for everything bad in our society. Liberal ideas are at the heart of libertarianism.

Here are the origins of liberal thought: "From the 17th century until the 19th century, liberals—from Adam Smith to John Stuart Mill—conceptualized liberty as the absence of interference from government and from other individuals, claiming that all people should have the freedom to develop their own unique abilities and capacities without being sabotaged by others. Mill's On Liberty (1859), one of the classic texts in liberal philosophy, proclaimed that "the only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good in our own way"."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19956 Aug 15, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The word "liberal" has been demonized by the right. Most conservatives now have no idea what it means, just that they are the enemy, and responsible for everything bad in our society. Liberal ideas are at the heart of libertarianism.
Here are the origins of liberal thought: "From the 17th century until the 19th century, liberals—from Adam Smith to John Stuart Mill—conceptualized liberty as the absence of interference from government and from other individuals,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
And you think this is what DumBama and the Democrats have been doing all along and are doing today?
Pops

Newport, KY

#19957 Aug 15, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The word "liberal" has been demonized by the right. Most conservatives now have no idea what it means, just that they are the enemy, and responsible for everything bad in our society. Liberal ideas are at the heart of libertarianism.
Here are the origins of liberal thought: "From the 17th century until the 19th century, liberals—from Adam Smith to John Stuart Mill—conceptualized liberty as the absence of interference from government and from other individuals, claiming that all people should have the freedom to develop their own unique abilities and capacities without being sabotaged by others. Mill's On Liberty (1859), one of the classic texts in liberal philosophy, proclaimed that "the only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good in our own way"."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
I think that it can be argued that the word liberal has morphed to some degree just as some words can do over time by a change in usage.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19958 Aug 15, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I think that it can be argued that the word liberal has morphed to some degree just as some words can do over time by a change in usage.
Including the word "conservative."

“ I LOVE LIBERALS”

Since: Sep 11

Bellefontaine, OH

#19959 Aug 15, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The word "liberal" has been demonized by the right. Most conservatives now have no idea what it means, just that they are the enemy, and responsible for everything bad in our society. Liberal ideas are at the heart of libertarianism.
Here are the origins of liberal thought: "From the 17th century until the 19th century, liberals—from Adam Smith to John Stuart Mill—conceptualized liberty as the absence of interference from government and from other individuals, claiming that all people should have the freedom to develop their own unique abilities and capacities without being sabotaged by others. Mill's On Liberty (1859), one of the classic texts in liberal philosophy, proclaimed that "the only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good in our own way"."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
As I have pointed out here on TOPIX time & again, those who currently call themselves "liberals" are ill liberal & are anything but liberal. Actually they favor STATISM, which is the opposite of liberalism!

Definition of STATISM:
: concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry
Spanky

Los Angeles, CA

#19960 Aug 15, 2013
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