Pops

Newport, KY

#19113 Jun 18, 2013
Canton is back. Missed ya & your funny posts. Were you on vacation away from the internet? Welcome back.
Josh

Alexandria, VA

#19114 Jun 18, 2013
Hbbm
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19115 Jun 18, 2013
Pops wrote:
Canton is back. Missed ya & your funny posts. Were you on vacation away from the internet? Welcome back.
Hi Pops. Was taking care of my Grandmother for a few. Good to hear from you too. Now back to your butt whoopings...
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19116 Jun 18, 2013
There is a Christian Sunday school song called "The Countdown". In the song, all the little Christian kids gleefully count down to the return of Jesus and the end of the world. This "free country" never batted an eye at the thought.

Now, in this "free country", let's imagine a basement full of little Muslim kids, gleefully counting down to the end of the world. Think that would bother anyone?

Religion F'd this country and those who voted with their Bibles are to blame.
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19117 Jun 18, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Jobs jobs jobs jobs...... hear that one before? Yep and now there's fewer jobs and people working them since before World War II.
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Liberals tell the truth...... when they want to: "Guess what this liberal would be all about? This liberal will be about socializing...uh, um...Would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your businesses."
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Liberals admit to yerning for a one party fascist state:“I think some people are missing something here. The president has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life.”“That’s going to be very, very powerful. That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before.”
“And whoever runs for president on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he's leaving in place."
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More democrats tell the truth about their own party:
“Ideologies aren’t all that important. What’s important is psychology.“The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.“Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have a clue as to political reality.“What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.
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“The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.“Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you’re smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.”
Sorry but those "jobs, jobs, jobs" all skipped town with our 401K plans when Bush was in office. Ain't that right, Hoover Company, Danner Press, Diebold...All left under Bush. There's your mouth and there's this thing called reality. We can't all follow the truths of the GOP...(Also see "Read my lips, no new taxes and WMDs in Iraq".)
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19118 Jun 18, 2013
The "truths" of the GOP...

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19119 Jun 18, 2013
You're completely full of ahitt your eyes must be brown.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19120 Jun 18, 2013
Sh!tt*
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19121 Jun 18, 2013
The funny thing is, I'm not a Liberal or a Socialist. I just can't stand an oil money moron cashing in on the sheepish Christian Right at the cost of our American soldiers. Oil and Jesus go hand and hand. That's why "I don't believe in global warming" started in the church. Don't believe me? I used to monitor Christian Right fund raising phone calls. I listened to simple, God fearing folks suddenly making bold claims about global weather patterns with no Biblical, or even logical founding. Strange how it was during the exact same time that the Koch brother oil billionaires were spending millions to refute climate change, a claim they later did a complete turn around on. I spent years on the front lines of what you follow and I can tell you, hate Obama or not, you are being deceived. I don't trust the government any more than you do. I am just wide enough to know that the current "anti-government" movement is run by Rightwing Christian Conservative Republicans, who were so ashamed for voting for Bush twice, that they changed their name to the Tea Party. Any attempt they make to point out the flaws in our current administration, is just a feeble attempt to make those who voted for Obama, seem half as gullible as those that withy Bible in hand, voted for Bush and gleefully sent our troops off to die so Halliburton could rake in billions of dollars in no bid government contracts. Usually companies will fight tooth and nail for a government contract. America paid top dollar and never put the bids on the table. I know...I know. It's all just a big coincidence that it was Dick Cheney's old company. Sure it was.
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19122 Jun 18, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
You're completely full of ahitt your eyes must be brown.
So you are saying that those companies didn't leave during the Bush administration? Perhaps you should look into the cold hard facts before you run your propaganda fed mouth. You are the one who should be sure to flush after every post. I slam you in the mouth with nothing but facts. You base your notions on a militia Tea Bagger emailed newsletter. I base my observations on the front row seat I had to your side's agenda. Deal with it, lil' silverspoon trooper.

"America is my church, and George Bush is my preacher." -Feeble old rightwinger right before she donated $500. Taken from an actual call I monitored and probably one of the scariest things I have ever heard in politics.
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19123 Jun 18, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Sh!tt*
Guess all that home schooling didn't work out so well in the spelling department. Don't worry. You can still ride on your mom and dad's trust fund coat tails. You should change your name to "UdintEarnThat". Another hand me down success story that has confused real hard work with being born.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#19127 Jun 18, 2013
NSA Programs:

NSA Programs are needed to support President, Vice President, and Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members; Honoring their Oath of Office to defend every American citizen from foreign and domestic aggression.

And complying with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#19128 Jun 18, 2013
Democrat Candidates Firm Up Obama Care:

Democrat Candidates defy USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Democrat Candidates support holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#19129 Jun 18, 2013
Michelin Stockholders Invests $435 million in Indonesia Venture:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands Stockholders investing money derived from stock dividends in foreign tax abated enterprise zones. That use nonunion workers, consumers, and taxpayers to produce their product and service. Sell their product and service to nonunion workers, consumers, and taxpayers.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully elect Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And Holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
Pops

Newport, KY

#19130 Jun 18, 2013
BetterOffNow wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Pops. Was taking care of my Grandmother for a few. Good to hear from you too. Now back to your butt whoopings...
How's your grandmother? Since my Mom just passed while I was helping take care of her in in home hospice, I extend my compassion to you & your family.
Pops

Newport, KY

#19131 Jun 18, 2013
BetterOffNow wrote:
There is a Christian Sunday school song called "The Countdown". In the song, all the little Christian kids gleefully count down to the return of Jesus and the end of the world. This "free country" never batted an eye at the thought.
Now, in this "free country", let's imagine a basement full of little Muslim kids, gleefully counting down to the end of the world. Think that would bother anyone?
Religion F'd this country and those who voted with their Bibles are to blame.
You are clearly making up for lost time dude.
1st; your 'countdown' story about Christians & Muslims is a faulty comparison. Christians do NOT avow death to "infidels" or decapitate 'nonbelievers'. Christians did NOT put a bounty on Salman Rushdi or stone adulterers to death, Christians do NOT cut the hands off of pickpockets etc etc. Muslims started the Crusades, Barbary Pirates (which lead to the very first U.S. foreign war) strap bombs to children & without mercy kill innocents of their own in those same bombings & they continue starting conflicts world wide. It isn't all of them but it is far too many.
Christians started the Red Cross, discovered antibiotics, steam ships, telescopes,
IF your question is an 'either or' Christian/Muslim singing a countdown song, I would clearly side with Christians.
I could say a little more but enough should be enough...except for you.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19132 Jun 18, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> Muslims started the Crusades
It may interest you to know that the word "Crusades" has a French origin, and means "taking up the cross." The person who called for them was Pope Urban II in 1095.

"... at the Council of Clermont in southern France, the pope called on Western Christians to take up arms in order to aid the Byzantines and recapture the Holy Land from Muslim control. Pope Urban's plea met with a tremendous response, both among lower levels of the military elite (who would form a new class of knights) as well as ordinary citizens; it was determined that those who joined the armed pilgrimage would wear a cross as a symbol of the Church."

http://www.history.com/topics/crusades
Pops

Newport, KY

#19133 Jun 19, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
It may interest you to know that the word "Crusades" has a French origin, and means "taking up the cross." The person who called for them was Pope Urban II in 1095.
"... at the Council of Clermont in southern France, the pope called on Western Christians to take up arms in order to aid the Byzantines and recapture the Holy Land from Muslim control. Pope Urban's plea met with a tremendous response, both among lower levels of the military elite (who would form a new class of knights) as well as ordinary citizens; it was determined that those who joined the armed pilgrimage would wear a cross as a symbol of the Church."
http://www.history.com/topics/crusades
Don't be short sighted. The Crusades were to take lands back from the Muslims which THEY had taken from predominately Christians. It doesn't matter if the word Crusades had a Jive, Swedish or Hindu origin. The Muslims were the initial agressors.
GBA

Saint Marys, OH

#19134 Jun 19, 2013
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19135 Jun 19, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>You are clearly making up for lost time dude.
1st; your 'countdown' story about Christians & Muslims is a faulty comparison. Christians do NOT avow death to "infidels" or decapitate 'nonbelievers'. Christians did NOT put a bounty on Salman Rushdi or stone adulterers to death, Christians do NOT cut the hands off of pickpockets etc etc. Muslims started the Crusades, Barbary Pirates (which lead to the very first U.S. foreign war) strap bombs to children & without mercy kill innocents of their own in those same bombings & they continue starting conflicts world wide. It isn't all of them but it is far too many.
Christians started the Red Cross, discovered antibiotics, steam ships, telescopes,
IF your question is an 'either or' Christian/Muslim singing a countdown song, I would clearly side with Christians.
I could say a little more but enough should be enough...except for you.
Perhaps it was the 12 years of theological studies that makes me so clueless as to what Christians are up to. I'm sure there are no instances in history where Christians committed brutal acts based on their religion. I mean other than the hundreds of thousands of innocent men and women who were burned alive for being "witches and werewolves". We'll skip over that whole 76% of all child molesters in America claiming they are Christian thing. Hey, wanna see a video of GW Bush, the man who claimed God told him to invade Iraq calling the war a "crusade"? I forget. Other than killing Christians' number one religious rival, the Muslims, what did we accomplish from that war? Go ahead and refresh my memory. Why did our soldiers get sent off to die in Iraq? I mean besides making Halliburton billions of dollars.

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