mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25669 Feb 18, 2014
kuda wrote:
You blatantly attempt to trivialize my position by accusing me of “underestimating” what you believe to be “the stupidity and immorality of the people on [my] side.” Which side would that be? Should we refuse birth control to minors who would be afraid to get their parents’ prior permission? It’s a legitimate and complex issue for debate among reasonable people, which probably requires compromise to reach a decision.[QUOTE]
Unless a child is being physically abused, the parent should be the ultimate authority. This is the United States, not Nazi Germany.

The republican platform states that marriage is between one man and one woman. So, the push for the legalization of marriages of any other combination isn't coming from the republican party, although I'm sure there are individuals within the party (we like to call them RHINOS) who believe otherwise.

[QUOTE]...I personally believe marriage should also be defined at the federal level to legally include any combination of two or more adult men and women, excluding blood-related opposite sex pairings due to their strong potential for occurrence of birth defects.
There are people who are not in incestuous relationships who have an increased risk of having children with birth defects, such as older women & men. Other people with birth defects, such as dwarfs, are allowed to marry, despite the chance that their children will be dwarfs.

Incestuous couples are already having sex. Will they become fertile only if they get a marriage license? Besides, marriage isn't about having children, it's about being with the one you love. Isn't that's what we hear from the proponents of gay marriage? But now it's all about having kids?
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25670 Feb 18, 2014
^^ I messed up the quotes in my last pst ... some of my response is included in your post, Kuda. Trying again here ...
kuda wrote:
You blatantly attempt to trivialize my position by accusing me of “underestimating” what you believe to be “the stupidity and immorality of the people on [my] side.” Which side would that be? Should we refuse birth control to minors who would be afraid to get their parents’ prior permission? It’s a legitimate and complex issue for debate among reasonable people, which probably requires compromise to reach a decision.
Unless a child is being physically abused, the parent should be the ultimate authority. This is the United States, not Nazi Germany.

The republican platform states that marriage is between one man and one woman. So, the push for the legalization of marriages of any other combination isn't coming from the republican party, although I'm sure there are individuals within the party (we like to call them RHINOS) who believe otherwise.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25671 Feb 18, 2014
kuda wrote:
You are much better read in the area of zoophilia than I. In fact, I’m completely ignorant about zoosadism.
Lol, I got an education yesterday, for sure. I didn't look up “zoosadism”, but assumed it meant some kind of violence toward animals for sexual purposes.
I commend the open-mindedness of concerns you expressed in your post. You’ll take a hit from the mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers for going off script to demonstrate compassion.
There are a lot of people on both sides who are compassionate. I don't think there are many -- if any -- republicans who want to outlaw certain "sexual identities", as odd as they may be. It all comes down to what our society should put its seal of approval on, in the form of government-issued licenses.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25672 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
You must frequent the same sites that the other libtard (Reality Check?) goes to. He read that Jeffery Dahmer was a Creation fanatic, but it turned out, Dahmer believed in evolution, hehe.
There are people who think that ObamaCare and the Affordable Care Act are two different things, and that one should be repealed, but the other kept. So, I'm not surprised that some people think Obama was president during Hurricane Katrina. Or maybe they're getting that confused with Obama's disastrous Gulf Oil Spill clean-up. Who knows.
Do you mean that oil spill by BP, the company Bush deregulated? You know, the rig Halliburton built? The spill that could have been stopped by a $10,000 valve safety device? The one that company that spent millions to refute climate change didn't put on? Yep, Obama's fault.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25673 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
You must frequent the same sites that the other libtard (Reality Check?) goes to. He read that Jeffery Dahmer was a Creation fanatic, but it turned out, Dahmer believed in evolution, hehe.
There are people who think that ObamaCare and the Affordable Care Act are two different things, and that one should be repealed, but the other kept. So, I'm not surprised that some people think Obama was president during Hurricane Katrina. Or maybe they're getting that confused with Obama's disastrous Gulf Oil Spill clean-up. Who knows.
Now when you say "Libtard" are you making fun of the mentally retarded? How vile. See how easy your own game is played?
Reality Check

Van Wert, OH

#25674 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Now when you say "Libtard" are you making fun of the mentally retarded? How vile. See how easy your own game is played?
The funniest part is that Jeffrey's lapdog doesn't realize that he sounds EXACTLY like Dahmer's prison interview tapes when it comes to his views on "creation science". Weird how "conservative" ideology just keeps lining up perfectly with wacko cannibal serial killer ideology, huh?
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25675 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
Now when you say "Libtard" are you making fun of the mentally retarded? How vile. See how easy your own game is played?
Yes, I'm making fun of the mentally retarded, but are you the one who should be correcting me? I recall you comparing conservatives to "retarded ragdolls" last week. If you're going to make fun of retarded people, should you be judging others who do?
Reality Check

Van Wert, OH

#25676 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I'm making fun of the mentally retarded, but are you the one who should be correcting me? I recall you comparing conservatives to "retarded ragdolls" last week. If you're going to make fun of retarded people, should you be judging others who do?
So you're blaming liberals for your own blatant lack of creativity? Nice...
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25677 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, how extreme, to make someone identify himself as actually being the person he's claiming to be.
Not sure if my memory is correct, but I think a person doesn't need to read or even speak English to get an iD, and they're given away free by the state. If people can make it to the welfare office to sign up for handouts, they can make it to wherever they need to go to get an ID.
That's precisely the point. Requiring ID to vote is an extreme measure — extreme because it is a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. While it is possible for most people to get an ID — even though it may be more inconvenient for some than others, especially minorities who tend not to vote Republican, to do so — there is no good argument for such a requirement, which serves only to skew the vote against Republican votes.

I'm disappointed that you choose to cloak your position in the language of the "welfare handouts" script, which casts aspersions on social program beneficiaries for being unworthy, lazy, greedy takers, and the rest of us as victims being robbed of what's rightfully ours.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25678 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
There are people who are not in incestuous relationships who have an increased risk of having children with birth defects, such as older women & men. Other people with birth defects, such as dwarfs, are allowed to marry, despite the chance that their children will be dwarfs.
Incestuous couples are already having sex. Will they become fertile only if they get a marriage license? Besides, marriage isn't about having children, it's about being with the one you love. Isn't that's what we hear from the proponents of gay marriage? But now it's all about having kids?
I appreciate your homage to human rights, in this case those specific to blood relatives who may wish to marry each other, or one another as the case may be, and, it is certainly the case that married people don't necessarily produce offspring. You make a good argument that there should be no law established by the federal or any state government limiting parties to marriage. I'm generally all in favor of being inclusive feather than exclusive.

I believe that most proponents of gay marriage argue as I do that GLBT people have the same right as other people to intermarry — for love, practical benefits associated with marriage and yes, perhaps to parent their children.
9ikjuy76tfr

Cincinnati, OH

#25679 Feb 18, 2014
owooo
Class

United States

#25680 Feb 18, 2014
Being Gay ...some say is a Sin....Well if your married and living a lie any better...if you hate your partner so bad that you continue a lifetime of Love Letters and Visits to a Prisoner any better ? I believe some find Love in the lowest place in the world. Well...really it is called using...need that weekly money on their books...and your husband has no idea...does he butch on London Street.
Class

United States

#25681 Feb 18, 2014
OOoops. Secret out...Hurry grab your Babydolls !!
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25682 Feb 18, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
So you're blaming liberals for your own blatant lack of creativity? Nice...
Uh ... what?
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25683 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
^^ I messed up the quotes in my last pst ... some of my response is included in your post, Kuda. Trying again here ...
<quoted text>
Unless a child is being physically abused, the parent should be the ultimate authority. This is the United States, not Nazi Germany.
The republican platform states that marriage is between one man and one woman. So, the push for the legalization of marriages of any other combination isn't coming from the republican party, although I'm sure there are individuals within the party (we like to call them RHINOS) who believe otherwise.
The problem is that the "Republican Party" is now in shambles and has no platform because they could reach no agreement with the right wing extremist fringe holding them hostage. We all know that they destroyed themselves by allowing tea partiers to infest their ranks and cave too long to the divisive demands of their destructive occupiers because they feared being "primaried" by their new masters who bullied them into wimpy submission. Zippedy-doo-dah indeed — what a horrible day.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25684 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I'm making fun of the mentally retarded, but are you the one who should be correcting me? I recall you comparing conservatives to "retarded ragdolls" last week. If you're going to make fun of retarded people, should you be judging others who do?
Yah, but then I'm not the one claiming higher moral ground or walking in the footsteps of Jesus. You retarded Tea Bagging moron. Thank "god" you guys are just the dwindling sour grape light from a long dead star.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25685 Feb 18, 2014
Also, after your very drawn out origin of Tea Bagger posts, that you claimed to have sought out the "origin" of the term, and stated it was strictly homosexual...Wonder why you didn't think this was the meaning of the term?

"The first tea bags were made from hand-sewn silk muslin bags and they have found tea bag patents of this sort dating as early as 1903. First appearing commercially around 1904, tea bags were successfully marketed by tea and coffee shop merchant Thomas Sullivan of New York, who shipped his tea bags around the world. A machine was soon invented to replace the hand sewing of tea bags."

VOIDbagger
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#25686 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
You must frequent the same sites that the other libtard (Reality Check?) goes to. He read that Jeffery Dahmer was a Creation fanatic, but it turned out, Dahmer believed in evolution, hehe.
There are people who think that ObamaCare and the Affordable Care Act are two different things, and that one should be repealed, but the other kept. So, I'm not surprised that some people think Obama was president during Hurricane Katrina. Or maybe they're getting that confused with Obama's disastrous Gulf Oil Spill clean-up. Who knows.
That last line just shows how really stupid are. If that event or let's say the Ohio River spill had been blamed on terrorist's, you idiot's would have been screaming to get everybody from the Military, NSA, Homeland Security and each and every government agency involved and demanding answers. You would even be screaming for a new version of The Patriot Act.
But it wasn't-
"Eh-it was just a corporation. That little bit of poison won't hurt anything. They won't mind drinking a little bit of oil and chemicals. Let's put the taxpayers on the hook for the cleanup and BLAME Obama for the whole mess.Yep, Can't make them thar shareholders suffer any over this. It might hurt those huge record profits, capital gains and bonuses and we can't have that now can we. We gotsd an election cummin up we needs that money to buy it for us."
Canton

Canton, OH

#25687 Feb 18, 2014
kuda wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that the "Republican Party" is now in shambles and has no platform because they could reach no agreement with the right wing extremist fringe holding them hostage. We all know that they destroyed themselves by allowing tea partiers to infest their ranks and cave too long to the divisive demands of their destructive occupiers because they feared being "primaried" by their new masters who bullied them into wimpy submission. Zippedy-doo-dah indeed — what a horrible day.
Not only that, but the GOP now realizes that saddling up with these corporate sponsored Tea Party candidates is now detrimental to them getting re-elected. Now back to all the Tea Baggers on here rattling off in perfect synchronicity, an exact and to the letter corporate agenda. We all know that corporations have our best interests in mind over our elected government officials...hey look. The river is on fire.
Reality Check

Van Wert, OH

#25688 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh ... what?
What don't you understand, little lapdog?
The part about you gleefully believe the same misinformation as a psychotic closet case cannibal serial killer, or the part where we pointed out your trademark teabagger lack of creativity when it comes to the name-calling game?

Now say it with me, desperate unhinged conservatives: "Neener neener, I know you are, but what am I?"

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