Canton

Canton, OH

#25661 Feb 18, 2014
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/1...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#25662 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
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OK, even though I asked you first, we have cleared up the FACT that Limbaugh is a liar. Now back up your claims like I asked you to in your original post. We both know where this is heading.
Limbaugh the liar has higher ratings than your favor news.

so what?

since when did your news tell the truth?

should we ask Dan Rather? Larry King? Wolf Blitzer? Matt Lauer?
Canton

Canton, OH

#25663 Feb 18, 2014
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/wp-content/up...
Canton

Canton, OH

#25664 Feb 18, 2014
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uUotxjkcynw/ULQV0gl...
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25665 Feb 18, 2014
kuda wrote:
Literacy test and poll tax strategies for sabotaging African American voting have been replaced by newer strategies such as voter ID laws and gerrymandering, which are no more subtle.
Yes, how extreme, to make someone identify himself as actually being the person he's claiming to be.

Not sure if my memory is correct, but I think a person doesn't need to read or even speak English to get an iD, and they're given away free by the state. If people can make it to the welfare office to sign up for handouts, they can make it to wherever they need to go to get an ID.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25666 Feb 18, 2014
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

http://www.allthingsdemocrat.com/wp-content/u...
Canton

Canton, OH

#25667 Feb 18, 2014
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

In the early morning hours of November 8, Fox News Channel declared that the pivotal state of Florida had gone for George W. Bush. At 2:16 a.m. Fox announced that the Texas governor had won the state, thus securing the 271 electoral votes needed to win the presidential election. The other television networks followed suit in a matter of minutes. The call was subsequently withdrawn, and to date the Florida outcome remains undecided.

The individual responsible for recommending that Fox call Florida for Bush was John Ellis, who led the network's decision desk. Ellis was not a disinterested party in the presidential election, but the first cousin of the Republican candidate and his brother, Florida Governor Jeb Bush.

Details emerging since Election Day concerning Ellis's role in the network's decision to call Florida for Bush raise serious questions as to whether his actions and Fox News's complicity constituted not only a violation of the democratic rights of the electorate, but a criminal conspiracy.

Ellis makes no bones about his Republican leanings and his partisan support for Bush. And according to his own account of his election night activities, contained in an article in the current issue of the New Yorker magazine, he was in constant communication with his cousins George W. and Jeb Bush.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25668 Feb 18, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
Folks like you, mutt,fantasy(la la) rants fit right perfectly with the group that believes that the sun revolves around the earth and Obama was responsible for the response to Hurricane Katrina. You can't make that up, it's in actual polls.
You must frequent the same sites that the other libtard (Reality Check?) goes to. He read that Jeffery Dahmer was a Creation fanatic, but it turned out, Dahmer believed in evolution, hehe.

There are people who think that ObamaCare and the Affordable Care Act are two different things, and that one should be repealed, but the other kept. So, I'm not surprised that some people think Obama was president during Hurricane Katrina. Or maybe they're getting that confused with Obama's disastrous Gulf Oil Spill clean-up. Who knows.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25669 Feb 18, 2014
kuda wrote:
You blatantly attempt to trivialize my position by accusing me of “underestimating” what you believe to be “the stupidity and immorality of the people on [my] side.” Which side would that be? Should we refuse birth control to minors who would be afraid to get their parents’ prior permission? It’s a legitimate and complex issue for debate among reasonable people, which probably requires compromise to reach a decision.[QUOTE]
Unless a child is being physically abused, the parent should be the ultimate authority. This is the United States, not Nazi Germany.

The republican platform states that marriage is between one man and one woman. So, the push for the legalization of marriages of any other combination isn't coming from the republican party, although I'm sure there are individuals within the party (we like to call them RHINOS) who believe otherwise.

[QUOTE]...I personally believe marriage should also be defined at the federal level to legally include any combination of two or more adult men and women, excluding blood-related opposite sex pairings due to their strong potential for occurrence of birth defects.
There are people who are not in incestuous relationships who have an increased risk of having children with birth defects, such as older women & men. Other people with birth defects, such as dwarfs, are allowed to marry, despite the chance that their children will be dwarfs.

Incestuous couples are already having sex. Will they become fertile only if they get a marriage license? Besides, marriage isn't about having children, it's about being with the one you love. Isn't that's what we hear from the proponents of gay marriage? But now it's all about having kids?
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25670 Feb 18, 2014
^^ I messed up the quotes in my last pst ... some of my response is included in your post, Kuda. Trying again here ...
kuda wrote:
You blatantly attempt to trivialize my position by accusing me of “underestimating” what you believe to be “the stupidity and immorality of the people on [my] side.” Which side would that be? Should we refuse birth control to minors who would be afraid to get their parents’ prior permission? It’s a legitimate and complex issue for debate among reasonable people, which probably requires compromise to reach a decision.
Unless a child is being physically abused, the parent should be the ultimate authority. This is the United States, not Nazi Germany.

The republican platform states that marriage is between one man and one woman. So, the push for the legalization of marriages of any other combination isn't coming from the republican party, although I'm sure there are individuals within the party (we like to call them RHINOS) who believe otherwise.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25671 Feb 18, 2014
kuda wrote:
You are much better read in the area of zoophilia than I. In fact, I’m completely ignorant about zoosadism.
Lol, I got an education yesterday, for sure. I didn't look up “zoosadism”, but assumed it meant some kind of violence toward animals for sexual purposes.
I commend the open-mindedness of concerns you expressed in your post. You’ll take a hit from the mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers for going off script to demonstrate compassion.
There are a lot of people on both sides who are compassionate. I don't think there are many -- if any -- republicans who want to outlaw certain "sexual identities", as odd as they may be. It all comes down to what our society should put its seal of approval on, in the form of government-issued licenses.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25672 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
You must frequent the same sites that the other libtard (Reality Check?) goes to. He read that Jeffery Dahmer was a Creation fanatic, but it turned out, Dahmer believed in evolution, hehe.
There are people who think that ObamaCare and the Affordable Care Act are two different things, and that one should be repealed, but the other kept. So, I'm not surprised that some people think Obama was president during Hurricane Katrina. Or maybe they're getting that confused with Obama's disastrous Gulf Oil Spill clean-up. Who knows.
Do you mean that oil spill by BP, the company Bush deregulated? You know, the rig Halliburton built? The spill that could have been stopped by a $10,000 valve safety device? The one that company that spent millions to refute climate change didn't put on? Yep, Obama's fault.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25673 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
You must frequent the same sites that the other libtard (Reality Check?) goes to. He read that Jeffery Dahmer was a Creation fanatic, but it turned out, Dahmer believed in evolution, hehe.
There are people who think that ObamaCare and the Affordable Care Act are two different things, and that one should be repealed, but the other kept. So, I'm not surprised that some people think Obama was president during Hurricane Katrina. Or maybe they're getting that confused with Obama's disastrous Gulf Oil Spill clean-up. Who knows.
Now when you say "Libtard" are you making fun of the mentally retarded? How vile. See how easy your own game is played?
Reality Check

Van Wert, OH

#25674 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Now when you say "Libtard" are you making fun of the mentally retarded? How vile. See how easy your own game is played?
The funniest part is that Jeffrey's lapdog doesn't realize that he sounds EXACTLY like Dahmer's prison interview tapes when it comes to his views on "creation science". Weird how "conservative" ideology just keeps lining up perfectly with wacko cannibal serial killer ideology, huh?
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25675 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
Now when you say "Libtard" are you making fun of the mentally retarded? How vile. See how easy your own game is played?
Yes, I'm making fun of the mentally retarded, but are you the one who should be correcting me? I recall you comparing conservatives to "retarded ragdolls" last week. If you're going to make fun of retarded people, should you be judging others who do?
Reality Check

Van Wert, OH

#25676 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I'm making fun of the mentally retarded, but are you the one who should be correcting me? I recall you comparing conservatives to "retarded ragdolls" last week. If you're going to make fun of retarded people, should you be judging others who do?
So you're blaming liberals for your own blatant lack of creativity? Nice...
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25677 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, how extreme, to make someone identify himself as actually being the person he's claiming to be.
Not sure if my memory is correct, but I think a person doesn't need to read or even speak English to get an iD, and they're given away free by the state. If people can make it to the welfare office to sign up for handouts, they can make it to wherever they need to go to get an ID.
That's precisely the point. Requiring ID to vote is an extreme measure — extreme because it is a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. While it is possible for most people to get an ID — even though it may be more inconvenient for some than others, especially minorities who tend not to vote Republican, to do so — there is no good argument for such a requirement, which serves only to skew the vote against Republican votes.

I'm disappointed that you choose to cloak your position in the language of the "welfare handouts" script, which casts aspersions on social program beneficiaries for being unworthy, lazy, greedy takers, and the rest of us as victims being robbed of what's rightfully ours.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25678 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
There are people who are not in incestuous relationships who have an increased risk of having children with birth defects, such as older women & men. Other people with birth defects, such as dwarfs, are allowed to marry, despite the chance that their children will be dwarfs.
Incestuous couples are already having sex. Will they become fertile only if they get a marriage license? Besides, marriage isn't about having children, it's about being with the one you love. Isn't that's what we hear from the proponents of gay marriage? But now it's all about having kids?
I appreciate your homage to human rights, in this case those specific to blood relatives who may wish to marry each other, or one another as the case may be, and, it is certainly the case that married people don't necessarily produce offspring. You make a good argument that there should be no law established by the federal or any state government limiting parties to marriage. I'm generally all in favor of being inclusive feather than exclusive.

I believe that most proponents of gay marriage argue as I do that GLBT people have the same right as other people to intermarry — for love, practical benefits associated with marriage and yes, perhaps to parent their children.
9ikjuy76tfr

Cincinnati, OH

#25679 Feb 18, 2014
owooo
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United States

#25680 Feb 18, 2014
Being Gay ...some say is a Sin....Well if your married and living a lie any better...if you hate your partner so bad that you continue a lifetime of Love Letters and Visits to a Prisoner any better ? I believe some find Love in the lowest place in the world. Well...really it is called using...need that weekly money on their books...and your husband has no idea...does he butch on London Street.

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