#25087 Feb 6, 2014
I stated awhile back that all of this is really about forcing Christianity on society, and those that don't want that. Like the founders of our country. What does abortion or gay rights have to do with "Conservatism"? Nothing, that's what. Now show me a Conservative that isn't against abortion or gays getting married. All just a religious agenda. So anyway...what were we talking about?
#25088 Feb 6, 2014
Yes, I do believe that.
You believe that the universe -- with no intelligent designer at all -- just happened to create matter & energy from nothing, and randomly formed a perfectly-ordered world, completely defying the 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics. That's crazier than believing that someone lived for 1,000 years.
I'll have to get on some whacko, far-left website to find out what you're talking about.
Well, let's see. The democrat party hates God.(That might be a big reason right there.) They fight for the unrestricted killing of unborn children. They promote sexual promiscuity. They promote homosexuality. They intentionally cause strife among certain groups. They want to "legally" steal money that other people have worked hard for. And they despise freedom. I'm just going to take a stab at this, but I'd say it's because your party is morally bankrupt.
#25089 Feb 6, 2014
I've believed this for almost 30 years, and I'm pretty sure I talked about it in this thread a while back. Now it's time for you make some progress. How about admitting that the laws of science don't apply to your theory in any way, shape, or form? The Laws of Thermodynamics applies to everything in the universe except your theory.
My theory isn't up for debate. I don't advocate the teaching of Creationism in schools. If you're interested in my ideas, I'll talk about them, but they're not on trial. They're my own personal viewpoints.
Like I said before, I believe something catastrophic happened that left the earth uninhabitable. Until then, it was fit for life, which is when the dinosaurs and 1st race of humans lived.
The earlier race would have lived before the 6 days of the biblical creation. Whatever light sources there were may have been destroyed, and God started from scratch.
Adam's race and all the animals weren't created until the last 2 days ... after the plants and everything else was in order.
How is the fossil and genetic evidence against it? Your "fossils" have been resurrected from road-kill status, with the help of some very imaginative scientists.
Concerning DNA evidence, let's say that the samples gathered from the Neanderthal were a good quality and uncontaminated ... it showed the Neanderthals were human. That fits in perfectly with my theory. You still have yet to cough up a "transitional species".
#25090 Feb 6, 2014
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
#25091 Feb 6, 2014
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
#25092 Feb 6, 2014
"...I'd say it's because your party is morally bankrupt."
#25093 Feb 6, 2014
An individual's actions don't necessarily represent the party's beliefs. The things I listed is what your party, as a whole, endorses.
Do you think it's ok to kidnap and rape people during satanic rituals? Do you think it's ok to lie to a grand jury? Do you think it's ok to tweet a picture of your weiner to a woman who isn't your wife?
#25094 Feb 6, 2014
Geez, that's a long list of morally bankrupt Democrats.
No wonder God only talks to "morally upstanding" conservatives like Sarah Palin and Jeffrey's lapdog...
#25097 Feb 6, 2014
Why are you libs are so jealous and whiny that God talks to conservatives? You want him removed from your party's platform, and any reminder of him taken out of public life ... no communication should make you happy.
#25099 Feb 6, 2014
Oh, so you DO want gubment to interfere with people's personal lives and control them, but only if they're enforcing YOUR extremist views on morality.
Thanks for clearing THAT up...
#25100 Feb 6, 2014
Noah brought his 3 sons and their wives.
#25101 Feb 6, 2014
Because He wanted to kill the Nephilim. Duh!
Since: Aug 11
#25103 Feb 6, 2014
People were not better off under Clinton and it was Clinton that sold out Labor too by signing NAFTA into law and Labor helped ship their jobs to mexico by voting for Clinton too and in 1999 Clinton is the one that signed into law the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act which repealed certian provisions of Glass-Steagall to help the 1% screw the majority which 2008 proved that too and Clinton has admitted it.
#25105 Feb 6, 2014
Oh, so now you're comparing homosexuality to bestiality and incest and pedophilia. Yep, that's not batshitcrazy.
Remember, it's not the government's job to enforce YOUR inbred family traditions, Jethro...
#25107 Feb 6, 2014
Almost as nice as the way you fundie rightards have been avoiding the question about your favorite conservative president for WEEKS now.
Oops, there's that teabagger double standard again...
#25108 Feb 6, 2014
I answered the question as soon as it was asked.
Maybe your problem isn't "fundie rightards" ... it's just ADD.
#25112 Feb 6, 2014
You are the one who implied that the GOP is morally better off than the Democrats. I merely supplied a list of examples proving otherwise. I'm willing to bet you don't see as much kidnapping/rape at Satanic rituals as much as you personally believe is happening. I would think that hungry children or gun homicides would chime in a little louder if we're talking about solving real issues.
I think anyone stupid enough to send out numerous pictures of their junk, to woman who in no way wanted something like that, wife or not, is a moron who needs some kind of therapy and shouldn't be in office, be it Dem or Rep. It has nothing to do with my belief in God or disbelief for that matter, as we both know that anybody can TELL you how pious they are or how devout they want you to believe they are, but really it has very little to do with who that person really is.
I personally see Christianity being used to move forward right wing political and even corporate agendas with fascism written all over it. A belief in God or faith in anything isn't measured by what you think is best for others, or who can talk the loudest in the chapel. It is a personal journey, as we were ALL born as naked and as stupid as the next guy, and have no idea, in any rational way that could be explained, to know what happens after we die, or how mankind established itself on this planet. Science is an ever changing process and to vilify what possibly could be a human desire for answers instilled in us by the same "creator" you use to oppose this undeniable need in our species that has without question driven us to a better existence, is an injustice to your fellow man, and arrogant to believe that a war, or to run for office or anything for that matter is "God's will".
#25113 Feb 6, 2014
Gee, mutt, it's intriguing to me that someone that never took a course in physics now feels competent to lecture others on thermodynamics. In response, let me say this: you don't know what you talking about. Please don't take this personally. I know this is not an original idea of yours, but just a well known creationist anti-science screed that you are simply repeating. The person that told it to you probably never had a course in physics either. Your basic error is not understanding that the second law of thermodynamics refers only to ISOLATED SYSTEMS.
" In their first and crudest attempt at creating the illusion of a contradiction between evolution and the second law of thermodynamics, creationists simply ignored the fact that evolving systems are not isolated. Their next endeavor consisted of altering the second law by maintaining that it precludes entropy decreases in all systems, not just isolated ones.
Although they still occasionally make either or both of these claims in debates, they apparently realized at some point, presumably after having been confronted with examples proving them wrong, that a new device was needed. So, they invented the "Creative Trinity." This actually replaces the second law, but they still refer to it as the second law of thermodynamics in order to maintain the air of scientific respectability.
There is a virtually unlimited number of examples of natural systems in which entropy deficiencies develop spontaneously, provided only that energy is allowed to flow across their boundaries, thus disproving the creationist requirement for a divine directing program or different kinds of entropy. We are awaiting coherent responses from creationists dealing with these examples."
#25114 Feb 7, 2014
Now which one of the sons scr*wed drunken Noah by the fireside? I forget. I know. Next let's teach the kids in public school science classes how drunken Lot scr*wed his own daughters in a cave. Gotta love those "morality" based Bible stories.
#25115 Feb 7, 2014
Make no mistake about it, Dahmer's creation science lapdog, you fundie rightards ARE the problem. That's why America kicked you nutty religious zealots to the curb years ago.
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