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School board bans 2 books from 9th-Grade list

There are 24 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 5, 2007, titled School board bans 2 books from 9th-Grade list. In it, Newsday reports that:

The Westhampton Beach school board voted to remove two books from its reading list for ninth-graders and to conduct a review of the remaining list.

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A G Showers

Lake Ariel, PA

#21 Jun 11, 2008
Walt Shiel wrote:
I am always amazed at how so many people, like Terry Lucas, confuse community standards with censorship. Nobody is saying those students cannot read the books in question, only that the school system should not be recommending them to the students.
I have not read Picoult's books, so cannot comment on them. I have read numerous books by Patterson but grew weary of his pandering to the basest elements. I would not consider any of his books suitable for 9th grade students.
Parents, who pay for the public school system, have a right to insist on careful review of selected books and to have their voices -- as the PARENTS -- heard.
I strongly support the parents who clearly take their parenting seriously. None of who have suggested that these books should be banned from local bookstores or from being published. That, Terry Lucas, is censorship, not the actions you're railing against. Grow up.
Walt Shiel
Publisher, Slipdown Mountain Publications LLC
Be a bit more discrepant in your judgement and in your bashings of Terry Lucas Mr. Shiel. I'm assuming you don't know her and you don't know the town of Westhampton. I'm also assuming you didn't grow up in Westhampton and go through their public school system. I did. I wasn't in Westhampton when all of this craziness began, I was studying in the city and stayed out of the mess as to not drive myself completely insane, but I can tell you this:
Terry is one of the only people that involves themselves with the Westhampton community and school system that /doesn't/ need to grow up.
Thinking of the state of ignorance and pomp, and subversively zealous synthetics that set the tone in Westhampton still makes my blood boil in an instant and ache for the common decency and sense of community you can find just on the other side of Manhattan. I would do anything for Westhampton's natural beauty to take back the human spirit and sense of mind it rightfully deserves.
This issue was not about books. It was not about censorship and it was not about parenting. It was about personal ego and materialistically driven power, and every community issue in the area will continue to be so until something starts to change. "Grow up Terry Lucas" --thats a nice one, its the antithesis of everything that needs to occur and all the hidden truths that should be common logic but for some reason drip from the tongue with no outward penetration or effect. There is a sense of personal entitlement and cultivated affectation that turns so many in this community into synthesized barbie-dogs biting at the line to be the first and foremost imparters of their own snarl-fed take on a preordained and insentient tomb of a world. And they're all, perhaps unconsciously, out for the taste of someone's honest and unaffected blood--to fill that blood with saccharine and to slap everyone on the hands before listening to--or even just /hearing/--their sense so they can keep up an artificial microcosm of false security and artificial control. It makes living in a sometimes lying and seemingly overpowering and intimidating world easy, at the small cost of internal freedom, personal spirit, aesthetics, and common sense (not to mention the natural wold, but that's another story).
Did you know anyone that steps outside on the sidewalk of Westhampton and starts strumming a 3 minute song on a guitar without a permit is likely to get confronted and stopped by police before they can even finish the song?
I used to get culture shock when I went upstate and the person making me a sandwich would actual smile and talk to me. Unfathomable right! I know...
A G Showers

Lake Ariel, PA

#22 Jun 11, 2008
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Terry's presence, and it's platform at her store The Open Book is a beaconing symbol of the stabilizing glue of sanity and basic human sense AND MORALITY that holds the town together and keeps the over-tanned zombie eyed localized infection from ripping down everyones dignity and doing anything short of prompting wolfish spats in the streets (not that that hasn't happened before, case in point: women screaming "Pornographer!" out their car windows as the drive by the Open Book).
I was so frustrated by the state of things in that community that I fled highschool a year early abroad and actually PREFERED being in the post-communist, neo-nazi, and conservatively brainwashed industrial Polish suburbs. And honestly? After all of my experiences near and far I find the real evil, and a sentiment much closer to Hitler's devilishness is more alive in my own back yard. Why would I say something so preposterous and actually be serious? Because the sentiment here is subversive. It is unconscious, it is destructive by working internally, and it limits, de-spirits, and strips community of the freedom for human spirit by means of simple unmeditated and and seemingly mundane attacks applied from neighbor to neighbor. If it weren't for the kind of people at the Open Book and their perserverence at decency in this town's quicksand--so infected by that virus of quick-plastic media saturation that is so fatal to the human soul--I never would have even looked back more or less returned (and all of this is quite ironic considering the instigator's title is the The Committee of Public /Decency/). I might be in Siberia right now washing someone's laundry instead of in the thicket of change and evolution and studying my eyes off at NYU.
Taking books OFF the reading list? Are you kidding me? People should be spending their energy trying to get more books put ON. I had a difficult enough time getting through AP English because I couldn't even read things like Ovid or Anais Nin for any credit. Then again, that racy pagan Ovid must be too much for 9th graders to handle, we might as well ignore such materials existence in the public school systems and rely on fate and probability for the students to discover him by themselves.
The main question I have is this: did anyone bother to fill the 2 little holes left by the removal of those 2 books on the self select reading list?
So anyway Westhampton, grow up. The world won't wait or stop for you and neither will your kids.
morgan

Portland, OR

#23 Apr 29, 2009
i agree with janie. i myself am a 9th grader. i think its stupid that books are being banned, kids are going to learn one way or another but would you rather them learn around a teacher to explain things to them or with their friends saying how its cool?? parents these days have they're heads so far up their ass's they need to realize that kids are not inocent like in the old days, i may be but 75% of the kids at my school have already "done it" plus, when i was in middle school kids sold drugs in the bathroom. how could a little book harm us?? and drugs in bathrooms get less attention?? stupid! principals and associate principals are so strict, how about less focusing on the non-sense and focus on stopping middle schoolers from being drug dealers or porn stars. Im probably more educated than most people in this world, i dont think i need viewers descression.
mister hard driver

Huntington, NY

#24 Apr 30, 2009
morgan wrote:
i agree with janie. i myself am a 9th grader. i think its stupid that books are being banned, kids are going to learn one way or another but would you rather them learn around a teacher to explain things to them or with their friends saying how its cool?? parents these days have they're heads so far up their ****'s they need to realize that kids are not inocent like in the old days, i may be but 75% of the kids at my school have already "done it" plus, when i was in middle school kids sold drugs in the bathroom. how could a little book harm us?? and drugs in bathrooms get less attention?? stupid! principals and associate principals are so strict, how about less focusing on the non-sense and focus on stopping middle schoolers from being drug dealers or porn stars. Im probably more educated than most people in this world, i dont think i need viewers descression.
before you claim to be more educated than most people in the world, learn how to spell "discretion".

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