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School board bans 2 books from 9th-Grade list

There are 24 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 5, 2007, titled School board bans 2 books from 9th-Grade list. In it, Newsday reports that:

The Westhampton Beach school board voted to remove two books from its reading list for ninth-graders and to conduct a review of the remaining list.

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evidently

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#1 Dec 5, 2007
i suppose these 9th graders also have no MTV access? and no reality show or DJ talk show experience? with the books you have the ability to discuss and bring about behaviour opinions...i fnd this kind of censorship very one sided, the culture the kids are exposed to is very swift, rough and inappropriate all the way around.to discuss these things in a moral and informational fashion is far more educational than watching the pop star gross misbehaviour---this is a false and flawed way to control exposure.i am sure if you spoke to these kids they have far more exposure to these circumstances than their parents even understand. closing the door on discussion and leaving it up to computer or cable tv viewing is foolish.
Open Your Eyes

Bronx, NY

#2 Dec 5, 2007
When will the book burning begin
corodon

Pearl River, NY

#3 Dec 5, 2007
"Ban"? The Board took two books off of a list of 300 recommended for 13 yr olds. I don't think the books have been banned, in fact. I think whoever wrote the headline to include the above verb either is careless or has a strong point of view he or she is slipping into the copy.
Walt Shiel

Swartz Creek, MI

#4 Dec 5, 2007
I am always amazed at how so many people, like Terry Lucas, confuse community standards with censorship. Nobody is saying those students cannot read the books in question, only that the school system should not be recommending them to the students.

I have not read Picoult's books, so cannot comment on them. I have read numerous books by Patterson but grew weary of his pandering to the basest elements. I would not consider any of his books suitable for 9th grade students.

Parents, who pay for the public school system, have a right to insist on careful review of selected books and to have their voices -- as the PARENTS -- heard.

I strongly support the parents who clearly take their parenting seriously. None of who have suggested that these books should be banned from local bookstores or from being published. That, Terry Lucas, is censorship, not the actions you're railing against. Grow up.

Walt Shiel
Publisher, Slipdown Mountain Publications LLC
http://SlipdownMountain.com
christinesli

Bayonne, NJ

#5 Dec 5, 2007
i think what you have done now is to make these two books "must read" on all of the teenagers lists. we can not control all of the information that comes into our childrens lives. we can only teach them the best we can of our morals and show them how we act in our dealings with our families and communities and set good examples. then i think we should let them decide what books to read.
excuuuse me

Old Bethpage, NY

#6 Dec 5, 2007
So wait, these types of things would NEVER happen to a child in Westhampton area? A date rape? Excuse me? Let's not let our children read about something as horrible like that - shut our eyes and maybe these terrible things will go away? You should TELL your children TO READ these sorts of things, so IF it happens to them, they would know they are not alone and this way, maybe they would be able to turn to their OWN PARENTS first, when it happens. Yes, I say WHEN. It happens everywhere - period!
maxwell

Morristown, NJ

#7 Dec 5, 2007
Yeah, good idea, keep the Blinders on your kids. Keep them naive and stupid. Don't let them read books that might raise constructive questions. Get this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071205/ap_on_he_...
Critic

Brooklyn, NY

#8 Dec 5, 2007
Those in favor of banning books are nothing more than freaks in support of the burning of Dresden. They can read the book with or without your permission anyway. You will let them play violent and sexual video games, see violent and sexual movies, but OH NO, not THAT book. And what’s with this stuff that it’s too challenging? It’s supposed to be that way so they learn and not be uneducated pompous bungholes such as you are.

I love this quote "My 13-year-old daughter would be in ninth grade next year, and I didn't want her to be exposed to that type of .reading material."

Well ma'am, I hate to tell you what your precious innocent little daughter is probably doing in the bathroom at school. But it's OK for parents to let their daughters dress promiscuously wearing hardly anything in the summer.

Just burn all the freakin' books and let them continue on the road to illiteracy and stupidity just like their parents and the school board. Sieg Heil!!! No more books.
Student

Bronx, NY

#9 Dec 5, 2007
As a twelth grade, AP student,(not from the Westhampton schoool district,however,) the banning of books is deeply upsetting and troubling to me. Upon reading the article, I found that the books were not in fact, "banned," as the title suggested, however I have to wonder what goals the school board had in mind when taking these two books off the reccomended reading lists. I understand parents being concerned for the welfare of their child, hoewver, I believe there are much more productive ways to go about it. The internet, TV, movies, and music all seem to be much more harmful than books. I have never read Patterson's book, so I cannot speak for that one, but I did read Picoult's, "The Tenth Circle," and found it to be a very fascinating and insightful novel on the subject of date rape. I would think that the subject matter of the book would make parents encourage their teens to read it, rather than dissaude them. It is a mature and well-written piece of literature, and much less explicit and derogatory than some songs or TV shows that have discussed the subject. Date rape is a very scary and relevant part of life as a teenager, therefore, I think it owuld be best if teens were well-informed about the subject. How could the school board be so narrow in their views of literature?
Gregg in Denver

Aurora, CO

#10 Dec 5, 2007
corodon wrote:
"Ban"? The Board took two books off of a list of 300 recommended for 13 yr olds. I don't think the books have been banned, in fact. I think whoever wrote the headline to include the above verb either is careless or has a strong point of view he or she is slipping into the copy.
yeah, its absurd. A handful of uptight losers complain, and they cater to them. If you don't want your kid reading that book, don't let him. how easy is that, seeing that its a recommended book, not required. So, instead of being a parent, lets ruin it for other kids who might have enjoyed that book. Shame on the school board to catering to such a holes
Gregg in Denver

Aurora, CO

#11 Dec 5, 2007
Walt Shiel wrote:
I am always amazed at how so many people, like Terry Lucas, confuse community standards with censorship. Nobody is saying those students cannot read the books in question, only that the school system should not be recommending them to the students.
I have not read Picoult's books, so cannot comment on them. I have read numerous books by Patterson but grew weary of his pandering to the basest elements. I would not consider any of his books suitable for 9th grade students.
Parents, who pay for the public school system, have a right to insist on careful review of selected books and to have their voices -- as the PARENTS -- heard.
I strongly support the parents who clearly take their parenting seriously. None of who have suggested that these books should be banned from local bookstores or from being published. That, Terry Lucas, is censorship, not the actions you're railing against. Grow up.
Walt Shiel
Publisher, Slipdown Mountain Publications LLC
http://SlipdownMountain.com
So you get to determine what the community standards are? and you talk about responsible parenting? Responsible parenting wwould be if you don't want you kid to read something, don't let them. be aware of what they read. Don't ban books for other kids whose parents might not be so uptight and don't have a problem with the material,which likely deals with real life situations, and hs students should be preparing for the real world
Janie

Brooklyn, NY

#12 Dec 5, 2007
Because they contained inappropriate sexual content. Could these parents be any more stupid? Unbelievable. Half these kids are already sexually involved-and the dumb parents think a book is going to lead them astray? Censorship is never a good thing.
Previous Post

Durham, NC

#13 Dec 6, 2007
DREAM ON PARENTS

Listen, I worked in a high school on Long Island for many years, recently retiring. Allow me to tell you, books are the least you have to worry about with kids in high school, very few read any, especially ones this thick! I laugh out loud when I read comments from parents about what they don't want their children exposed to; you've already failed that test, you were asleep at the wheel their first 13 years, they know way too much already! That being said, I would add the majority of kids are also very smart, and street wise; just knowing doesn't mean they take action.
What book is next to be banned? Mohammed, My Teddy Bear?
Lindi

Fpo, AE

#14 Dec 13, 2007
It is nice to see that parents are taking a stand against certain topics but I think this is ridiculous! I don't understand why the parents wouldn't read the book(s) with their children and then talk to them about it. These are real life situations happening in this world and I would rather my child be educated and aware of what's going on. Stop hiding your kids behind a brick wall people! It is time to knock it down and face challenges that will be helpful and benefit our future leaders of America!
we need a change

Schaumburg, IL

#15 Dec 20, 2007
Walt Shiel wrote:
I am always amazed at how so many people, like Terry Lucas, confuse community standards with censorship. Nobody is saying those students cannot read the books in question, only that the school system should not be recommending them to the students.
I have not read Picoult's books, so cannot comment on them. I have read numerous books by Patterson but grew weary of his pandering to the basest elements. I would not consider any of his books suitable for 9th grade students.
Parents, who pay for the public school system, have a right to insist on careful review of selected books and to have their voices -- as the PARENTS -- heard.
I strongly support the parents who clearly take their parenting seriously. None of who have suggested that these books should be banned from local bookstores or from being published. That, Terry Lucas, is censorship, not the actions you're railing against. Grow up.
Walt Shiel
Publisher, Slipdown Mountain Publications LLC
http://SlipdownMountain.com
Bravo!!! You have said it so well. Parents (you know, taxpayers) need to be heard and their wishes about what is being recommended to their children by THEIR schools should be respected. Why doesn't the administration vette these lists before there is community concern?
Michael

Bronx, NY

#16 Dec 21, 2007
Yup, silly librarians. 9th graders never have to deal with date rape or child birth, so we have to keep the cocoon of innocence wrapped tight.

Please. I'd rather explain to my daughter the complications and tribulations of her teenage years, with the worry of date rape and possibility of pregnancy, than let her deal with these situations THROUGH HER OWN REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE.

Until I read the book, I can't say if it's too explicit or not. But I highly doubt it.
Jer Koff

Scarborough, ME

#17 Dec 25, 2007
I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to comment on newspaper stories because they are sub clinically brain damaged like some people out there in our nation that don't have maps and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa, South Carolina, South Virginia and the Iraq, everywhere like such as, where morons like you read silly little stories and think you know something important enough to share on a blog and I believe that they should our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. to not seem so incredibly stupid as if we were dropped on our heads, or should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries and the Long Island so we will be able to build up our future, for our children and other people from Merrick such as you know?
mister hard driver

Huntington, NY

#18 Dec 26, 2007
Student wrote:
As a twelth grade, AP student,(not from the Westhampton schoool district,however,) the banning of books is deeply upsetting and troubling to me. Upon reading the article, I found that the books were not in fact, "banned," as the title suggested, however I have to wonder what goals the school board had in mind when taking these two books off the reccomended reading lists. I understand parents being concerned for the welfare of their child, hoewver, I believe there are much more productive ways to go about it. The internet, TV, movies, and music all seem to be much more harmful than books. I have never read Patterson's book, so I cannot speak for that one, but I did read Picoult's, "The Tenth Circle," and found it to be a very fascinating and insightful novel on the subject of date rape. I would think that the subject matter of the book would make parents encourage their teens to read it, rather than dissaude them. It is a mature and well-written piece of literature, and much less explicit and derogatory than some songs or TV shows that have discussed the subject. Date rape is a very scary and relevant part of life as a teenager, therefore, I think it owuld be best if teens were well-informed about the subject. How could the school board be so narrow in their views of literature?
Thank God, there is hope for the future. A literate comment from an erudite high school student.
While this isn't really a "ban" it is still an indication of what some parents, and the school board, is attempting. Remember the Supreme Court case about the school library bans of books brought by a student at Island Trees was ruled in the student's favor because of the capricious nature of the decision making process, not necessarily the material.
But date rape is certainly an appropriate subject for teens in my opinion, and I wonder how many parents object to the subject of virgin birth being brought up during religious classes. If you're a Christian you've probably heard the term a few times way before 9th grade.
DozenBlackRoses

Warren, MI

#19 Jan 25, 2008
I think that censoring books is seriously the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. For one thing, by censoring books, teens only want to read them more. It's the way we are. Ever since teens began to exist, we've been going against the rules. Anyway, it's unconstitutional to ban books- whatever happened to "freedom of the press?" What, does that just disappear because some overly-sensitive parents freak out? If they have a problem with other people's books, then they can just take their teenagers to go see Barney Live and write their own books about fluffy stuff and rainbowey prettiness. Until they do, these parents really, really need to stop criticizing other people for something they put alot of effort into- and to try to minimize (sp?) their accomplishments because of their narrow-minded views.
Islanderman

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Jan 25, 2008
thye also are banning the word class as it contains a secret naughty word in the last three letters!

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