Canal Winchester, Westerville school levies to be on November ballot | The Columbus Dispatch

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not the enemy

Columbus, OH

#61 Jul 26, 2011
need real solutions wrote:
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I know you are being sarcastic, but I totally agree with the first four statements. This is life, it is the real world. There are parents every day transporting their children to and from school, they pay for sports, lessons and activities, they enroll their children in special camps, programs, etc. to further their child's interests and options, and there are parents paying tutors to assist with their child's educational needs.
When parents take the initiative and take control, they KNOW their child is getting the expereince, socialization, and education best for their child. We KNOW there is no bullying on the bus, they are in our car. We KNOW they are being included in an activity, etc.
I would never trust my children's education to just anyone, but it is strange that children homeschooled by committed parents with the equivalent of a high school education can often times compete with the best of them.
Being very sarcastic, am tired of my profession taking a beating from those whose only educational experience was from when they were in school. Education needs reform but it will come at a cost, just as remodeling your home would. Do you really trust your childs education to those schools who operate without state supervision or oversight? Willing to take a chance and roll the dice? Not me, I personally get to know every teacher my children come into contact with, attend P-T conferences and school functions.

Many on here complain about the woes of public education but I can attest that student achievement correlates with parental involvement. And that isn't a "good job Suzy" when they come home with a good grade.

As for home schooling, I have several nieces and nephews who are home schooled and they live in great school districts. Their scores equal or surpass their counterparts in their respective neighborhoods. However, they are reaching the age where calculus, trig and other subjects are being introduced. Their parents, who are college grads, have no expertise in these subjects and are looking to public education to fulfill those areas.
tip

Canal Winchester, OH

#62 Jul 26, 2011
Haa wrote:
If you are worried about 50 - 80 bucks a month in taxes, then clearly education has failed to provide you with the start you needed to make something of yourself.
I guess that's why you want a "great" job like a teacher. The pay looks good, the benefits look good and they are so respected, at least compared ot your plumbing or truck driving job.
If the Ohio graduation rate has fallen consecutively for the last few years, then clearly educators have failed to provide students with the start they need to make something of themselves.

See how it works?
POedInCMH

Reynoldsburg, OH

#63 Jul 26, 2011
not the enemy wrote:
How school really works:
A man owns an factory known for its great ice cream. When the berries arrive for his factory he examines them and refuses to accept them. Some are small, some not ripe, others over ripened, and some are rotting. He sends them back without paying for them and refuses each berry delivery until he gets an order of plump, ripe, delicious berries.
A school district has to accept the berries from the beginning, regardless of condition and are still expected to turn out the best from an inferior product.
Please remind teachers again how it works in the real world. Because it is so different in the factories vs. the real world of education.
What a crock of crap!

First of all, we are talking about salary and benefits. Also, many of the kids in CW are dropping out of school. Here's my version of schools work..not using "berries".

Another administrator or teacher trying to make excuses for their failures and the high ransom they place on tax payers.

Teachers only work 8 months out of the year if that...you might say 9 months but let us not forget they get a lot of December and spring time off not to mention all of the holidays. Yet, these teachers expect to be paid as if they were working same amount as the tax payers.

They teach for 4.5 to 6 hours every day if that. They get all the perks they could ask for because they are part of the Union Mafia extortion. No one can fire them because of the Union.

They tell kids to tell their parents if they don't pay more, they will go hungry and will do without things. They use mental psychology to have them attack their parents for more money. Only 60% of the students will graduate with an education worthy of anything. Yes, a D- grade by most industry standards.

Schools are ran much like companies are in Venezuela...by a dictator or socialist who have NO motive to become more efficient.

How many times has private schools such as Catholics asked for increases to their parishioner's?

It's time that we start consolidating these school boards by county so that we don't have to pay so many school administrators ridiculous salaries and benefits. We need to have standardized education system through out a county. Teachers pit one city against another with all of their demands. State needs to step in and help property owners.
not the enemy

Columbus, OH

#64 Jul 26, 2011
tip wrote:
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If the Ohio graduation rate has fallen consecutively for the last few years, then clearly educators have failed to provide students with the start they need to make something of themselves.
See how it works?
Perhaps the graduation rate has fallen because schools are so busy teaching to the test that real education is put on the back burner.
solomon

Grove City, OH

#65 Jul 26, 2011
Bill wrote:
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"Threw" the roof???
How far did you throw it?
Looks like your school could have used a levy.
Thank you. I was dieing to reply. Sadly, the face of the future.
not the enemy

Columbus, OH

#66 Jul 26, 2011
POedInCMH wrote:
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What a crock of crap!
First of all, we are talking about salary and benefits. Also, many of the kids in CW are dropping out of school. Here's my version of schools work..not using "berries".
Another administrator or teacher trying to make excuses for their failures and the high ransom they place on tax payers.
Teachers only work 8 months out of the year if that...you might say 9 months but let us not forget they get a lot of December and spring time off not to mention all of the holidays. Yet, these teachers expect to be paid as if they were working same amount as the tax payers.
They teach for 4.5 to 6 hours every day if that. They get all the perks they could ask for because they are part of the Union Mafia extortion. No one can fire them because of the Union.
They tell kids to tell their parents if they don't pay more, they will go hungry and will do without things. They use mental psychology to have them attack their parents for more money. Only 60% of the students will graduate with an education worthy of anything. Yes, a D- grade by most industry standards.
Schools are ran much like companies are in Venezuela...by a dictator or socialist who have NO motive to become more efficient.
How many times has private schools such as Catholics asked for increases to their parishioner's?
It's time that we start consolidating these school boards by county so that we don't have to pay so many school administrators ridiculous salaries and benefits. We need to have standardized education system through out a county. Teachers pit one city against another with all of their demands. State needs to step in and help property owners.
Perhaps instead of taxes paying for public schools all public schools become for profit. That way they could generate income at each individual students expense. Parents would pay tuition to attend, the cost of books, and provide their own transportation. Just like the charters, colleges and universities. No more free lunch, or assistance to low income families. If you can't afford it your child doesn't need to go. Just like in the real world. And BTW way the state is the entity that set up local school districts, teacher pensions, and salaries thru legislation not the unions or teachers.
need real solutions

Reynoldsburg, OH

#68 Jul 26, 2011
not the enemy wrote:
<quoted text>
Being very sarcastic, am tired of my profession taking a beating from those whose only educational experience was from when they were in school. Education needs reform but it will come at a cost, just as remodeling your home would. Do you really trust your childs education to those schools who operate without state supervision or oversight? Willing to take a chance and roll the dice? Not me, I personally get to know every teacher my children come into contact with, attend P-T conferences and school functions.
Many on here complain about the woes of public education but I can attest that student achievement correlates with parental involvement. And that isn't a "good job Suzy" when they come home with a good grade.
As for home schooling, I have several nieces and nephews who are home schooled and they live in great school districts. Their scores equal or surpass their counterparts in their respective neighborhoods. However, they are reaching the age where calculus, trig and other subjects are being introduced. Their parents, who are college grads, have no expertise in these subjects and are looking to public education to fulfill those areas.
Columbus State offers a great K-12 program. When my middle son was fifteen and needed more math than I could provide, he simply enrolled in Columbus State. Many of those classes counted towards his degree. We paid the tuition, but the education as well as the experience was worth every penny. My fifteen year old attended class with people wanting to be in class, doing the work, and respecting the instructor. No bullying, no fighting, no status nonsense.

There are many options for a quality education, it just requires parental motivation and involvement. Even parochial schools do much better with much less and always have.
need real solutions

Reynoldsburg, OH

#69 Jul 26, 2011
solomon wrote:
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Thank you. I was dieing to reply. Sadly, the face of the future.
Face of the future? Words that were once slang and corrected are now accepted as the norm; kid, cop, buck. Light is now Lite, You're is now UR, etc. and it is not just on texting. It is standard practice.

This past week I found a paper I had written in cursive, my grandmother dated it, so I KNOW I was nine years old. I do not see that type of expectation today. And let me say, I got anywhere from an A to a C. I was average, not the best in the class. We had higher expectations and we were graded accordingly. Now, even news articles are filled with slang, sentences ending in prepositions, etc.
luv westerville

Pickerington, OH

#70 Jul 26, 2011
nana wrote:
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Did you not have good teachers when you were in school or were they all fat and lazy. yes there are teachers that should not be teaching. Yes they need to be weeded out. But until then it is for the kids. Remember there could be a child that will find a cure for breast cancer, or maybe the first President of the United States that truly cares about the American people. Think about it.
It's always a good excuse to say it's for the KIDS. Giving the teachers more money isn't going to make them smarter.
DONE PAYING THEIR WAY

United States

#71 Jul 26, 2011
I am done paying more taxes so teachers can continue to get 100% of there healthcare and 100% of there retirement funded. So, I am funding my own plus theirs.
ssshhhh!!! and guess what? I work for the district.
VOTE NO
EFF U

United States

#72 Jul 26, 2011
Parasite Government wrote:
Westerville should use the tools available to them from SB 5 to hold down costs - of course most administrators used to be union members, and their pay and benefits are based upon what the teachers make, so they all scratch each other's backs.
Westerville already has some of the highest property taxes in Delaware County - now they want to tax "earned" income, which is a nice way of trying to bribe old people to raise other people's taxes. It might be time to move further out from Columbus.
I would not recommend moving to Westerville Schools - expensive and your kids have to go to school with gangbangers from the south end of the district.
You are such a dumb ass! Gangbangers......don't like it? MOVE!
CW Taxpayer

Canal Winchester, OH

#73 Jul 26, 2011
From Canal Winchester 5 year forecast for Fiscal Year 2011:
Actual Expenses 2009 $30.3 Million
Actual Expenses 2010 $32.0 Million
Forecast for this coming school Year $35.9 Million!

Run away spending is the issue with Canal Winchester School Board AND our Federal Government. I will be voting NO.
Really

Westerville, OH

#74 Jul 26, 2011
When will it be over wrote:
Why is everyone so up in arms about new levies and local income tax increase proposals? Kasich and his legislature passed a historic budget that balanced the state's budget without any tax increases by passing all the costs down to the local levels of government. What did all of you think was going to happen?
Vote either for or against your local issues and forget it! They will either pass or fail. If they pass, you keep the services you have and if they fail, well you'll have to do with a lot less service which will fall on you to accomplish personally either with your money or time or both. Hey look at it this way, you personally get to chose what you want or need. Everyone lighten up!!!
The budget passed at the state level was done the right way for a change! Blaming the state is not an excuse to continue pandering to the unsustainable union contracts extorted in the past. NO MORE TAXES UNTIL THE UNION PROBLEM IS ADDRESSED, SOLVED, AND GONE AWAY!!! There is already plenty of money to run the schools with - quit spending it improperly and learn how to operate within a budget - learn to say NO to the unions for a change and we will all win at all levels!
Need Recall Provision NOW

Columbus, OH

#75 Jul 26, 2011
It was the cuts that Kasich made on the state level that created the need for these levies. You haven't seen anything yet....
Anti-Kasich

Columbus, OH

#76 Jul 26, 2011
The taxes in Westerville are already unbearable. I have seen $250K houses where the yearly taxes are $7700. That is $641 a month just for taxes, and $77,000 over ten years.

Many houses are already for sale because people simply cannot afford the taxes. And no one will buy them--- because of the high Westerville taxes.
luv westerville

Pickerington, OH

#77 Jul 27, 2011
Instead of our children going to these overpriced school districts, we can have them stay at home and use a State funded program called OHDELA (Ohio Distance Electronic Learning Academy). The State provides you with a computer, printer and internet. And the best part is, it's *FREE*. Do away with crybabies who want the TAXPAYERS to give them cost of living raises , pay increases,etc...

Then maybe they (SCHOOL Officials, and employees) will be happy to have a job and not be greedy.

Since: Jan 11

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#78 Jul 28, 2011
Anti-Kasich wrote:
The taxes in Westerville are already unbearable. I have seen $250K houses where the yearly taxes are $7700. That is $641 a month just for taxes, and $77,000 over ten years.
Many houses are already for sale because people simply cannot afford the taxes. And no one will buy them--- because of the high Westerville taxes.
You'd certainly be crazy to buy a house in the 'ville with those kinds of taxes. Sounds like they're trying to kill the golden goose.
No means No

San Ramon, CA

#79 Sep 6, 2011
The Canal Winchester LSD, comprised or nearly 3500 students, operates on a general budget or nearly $35mm a year,$10,000 per student.
My home reappraisal just arrived and my home value is now just over $100,000 less than last appraised year's value.
Here's how I add it up...$10k a year is plenty and get ready to tighten your belts further because everyone's home value has just been decreased substantially. Also, the home values did not drop all in the last year, so I guess you should have used the extra funds you received above the actual value of my home last year more wisely if you are still in need of more money.
Lastly, how many times do we need to say "No?" We said no in May and now we're going to have to say it again in November.
I think their should be an amendment that says when we vote "No" the same entity cannot ask again for three years.
Threaten what you will, but the reality is that the levy which expires at the end of this year and the new, lower home values are already going to make every projection you have now obsolete.
Shawn

Reynoldsburg, OH

#80 Nov 9, 2011
Phil wrote:
13.38 mills for CW schools eh?? They don't want much now do they? I've seen greed before but this is gluttonish.
So sick.. these people are crooks. People are losing their houses left and right in CW.. and they Just keep on taxing. Property values have dropped 40% because of all the foreclosures.. want to sell your HOUSE? bring cash to closing! All because the taxes are more than most people's principle and interest payments. Who keeps voting yes?? Oh.. the people who live in apartments and are unaffected by the property taxes. Can we please fix the system??

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