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now now hey

Columbus, OH

#2 Dec 6, 2012
Big deal.
Brotato

Cambridge, OH

#4 Dec 6, 2012
Hope its a major payday. I would love to see a massive chunk taken out of that liberal garbage dump of a channel. So much that it affects the paychecks of MSNBC. Especially, Chris Matthews, Al Sharpcoon, Rachel MadFriscodykeCow, Ed Schultz, and Martin Bashir.
Spookishere F trolls

United States

#5 Dec 6, 2012
I would love to be on that jury. Zimmerman needs to stick it.to them hard and deep then break it off in them

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#8 Dec 7, 2012
Karl Monday wrote:
<quoted text>
What's next do I hate kittens, Mom, Apple Pie and Muhammad?
If the shoe fits ...

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#9 Dec 7, 2012
hey hey now wrote:
theconservativetreehouse.com/2 012/12/06/first-served-george- zimmerman-sues-nbc-defamation- intentional-infliction-of-emot ional-distress-demand-for-pres ervation-of-evidence-demand-fo r-jury-trial/
and
therealgeorgezimmerman.com
"WHY I'M SUING NBC"
From George's website:

"I do not know, because of my situation, how I will be able to provide for my wife and myself in the future, and so I expect NBC to be held responsible."

Seems to me George lost his job before NBC ever had a story.

It will be interesting to see how this one come out. Despite the posturing on both sides, I suspect neither one is actually eager to go to court. George seems to need the money and big corps are typically loath to put bucks into prolonged court drama over fairly ambiguous stuff. Yes, their editing was irresponsible. However, the full unedited versions of the tapes were also readily available to the public--making it very difficult to gauge the impact of the NBC broadcast.

And the reality is that while the initial reference to race was prompted by the dispatcher's question, a bit further along, when the dispatcher probes for specific suspicious behavior, Zimmerman offers UNPROMPTED that Trayvon has his hand on his waistband and that he is a black male.

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#11 Dec 7, 2012
hey hey now wrote:
<quoted text>You filthy statists CANNOT get your minds around the natural right of self defense. Why not?
It's a pretty big stretch to turn a stalking incident into self defense, to my mind.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

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#12 Dec 7, 2012
Wow. This is not a well written suit.

I'm guessing (hoping?) that this is intended more to reform their client's public image as it relates to the criminal case than it is an actual intent to seek redress?

While I always appreciate 19th century melodrama and flounce in legal writings, once you get down to it, defamation is going to be a rather hard sell.

I can't even imagine that the emotional distress charge is viable, it's got to just be padding?

I suppose it's to be exepcted, if you hire the sorts of criminal/personal injury lawyers who have 24 hour free hotlines...

Link containing the complaint, for those interested.
http://www.gzvnbc.com/

And his attnys, bless their little faces.
http://www.markomaralaw.com/Attorney-Profile/...
http://www.beasleyfirm.com/

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#13 Dec 7, 2012
tranpsosition wrote:
Wow. This is not a well written suit.
I'm guessing (hoping?) that this is intended more to reform their client's public image as it relates to the criminal case than it is an actual intent to seek redress?
While I always appreciate 19th century melodrama and flounce in legal writings, once you get down to it, defamation is going to be a rather hard sell.
I can't even imagine that the emotional distress charge is viable, it's got to just be padding?
I suppose it's to be exepcted, if you hire the sorts of criminal/personal injury lawyers who have 24 hour free hotlines...
Link containing the complaint, for those interested.
http://www.gzvnbc.com/
And his attnys, bless their little faces.
http://www.markomaralaw.com/Attorney-Profile/...
http://www.beasleyfirm.com/
I have watched O'Mara in court and before the press and he makes a good impression. That said, he also seems to be allowing Zimmerman some leeway in pursuing what looks to me like paranoid and delusional tendancies. If anything, I think that O'Mara is betting on NBC's attorneys and insurers to prefer not to go to trial--and offering a cash settlement.

One of the real costs of maintaining the "can't leave the house or show his face--living in constant danger from black hordes" meme is that neither George nor his wife seem to be working. He recently tried to pump up donations through his website by promising signed thank you notes (in plain brown wrappers for the protection of the donors).

I agree regarding O'Mara's attempts to turn public opinion. I don't believe that the evidence is going to be helpful and the only real hope is to get a jury pre-disposed to see George as a victim.

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#14 Dec 7, 2012
Here is a link to a complete transcript of the call:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/32670...

In explaining to the dispatcher the causes of his suspicion he mentions the following:

it's raining and he's just walking, looking about

looking at all the houses

now he's staring at me

now he's coming toward me

he has his hand in his waistband

he's a black male

something's wrong with him

he's coming to check me out

he's got something in his hands

I don't know what his deal is

Really hard to establish what Zimmerman saw that convinced him he was on the path of interrupting a possible crime. That is, unless he was profiling.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#15 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a pretty big stretch to turn a stalking incident into self defense, to my mind.
Stop lying, Reader:

Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.
Zimmerman: Okay.
Dispatcher: All right, sir, what is your name?
Zimmerman: George...He ran.
Dispatcher: All right, George, what's your last name?
Zimmerman: Zimmerman.
Dispatcher: And George, what's the phone number you're calling from?
Zimmerman:[redacted]
Dispatcher: All right, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Alright, where you going to meet with them at?
Zimmerman: If they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the club house, and uh, straight past the club house and make a left, and then they go past the mailboxes,[Note 3, 4th picture] that's my truck...[unintelligible]
Dispatcher: What address are you parked in front of?
Zimmerman: I don't know. It's a cut through so I don't know the address.[Note 3, 6th & 7th pictures]
Dispatcher: Okay. Do you live in the area?
Zimmerman: Yeah, I...[unintelligible]
Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?
Zimmerman: It's a home. It's 1950,[Note 3, 3rd picture] Oh, crap. I don't want to give it all out. I don't know where this kid is.
Dispatcher: Okay. Do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then?
Zimmerman: Yeah, that's fine.
Dispatcher: All right, George. I'll let them know to meet you around there okay?
Zimmerman: Actually, could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?
Dispatcher: Okay, yeah. That's no problem.
Zimmerman: Should I give you my number or you got it?
Dispatcher: Yeah, I got it [redacted]
Zimmerman: Yeah, you got it.
Dispatcher: Okay. No problem. I'll let them know to call you when they're in the area.
Zimmerman: Thanks.
Dispatcher: You're welcome.[114]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Tray...

That is NOT stalking. That wasn't even following. Zimmerman was heading back to his truck.

“Meh.”

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#16 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
I have watched O'Mara in court and before the press and he makes a good impression. That said, he also seems to be allowing Zimmerman some leeway in pursuing what looks to me like paranoid and delusional tendancies. If anything, I think that O'Mara is betting on NBC's attorneys and insurers to prefer not to go to trial--and offering a cash settlement.
One of the real costs of maintaining the "can't leave the house or show his face--living in constant danger from black hordes" meme is that neither George nor his wife seem to be working. He recently tried to pump up donations through his website by promising signed thank you notes (in plain brown wrappers for the protection of the donors).
I agree regarding O'Mara's attempts to turn public opinion. I don't believe that the evidence is going to be helpful and the only real hope is to get a jury pre-disposed to see George as a victim.
I cannot even imagine a situation in which they would settle, given this suit.

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#17 Dec 7, 2012
tranpsosition wrote:
Wow. This is not a well written suit.
Just read through it.

Looks like it was written by George, perhaps formatted by some low-level intern or paralegal.

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#18 Dec 7, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
That is NOT stalking. That wasn't even following. Zimmerman was heading back to his truck.
So says George.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

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#19 Dec 7, 2012
I was a bit surprised when you said that O'Mara presents well on tv. If he had anything to do with the drafting of this he is an idiot.

These aren't the people behind his legal defence as well, I would hope?

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#20 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
So says George.
So says the transcript and it's even more apparent when you listen to the audio.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#21 Dec 7, 2012
tranpsosition wrote:
I was a bit surprised when you said that O'Mara presents well on tv. If he had anything to do with the drafting of this he is an idiot.
These aren't the people behind his legal defence as well, I would hope?
I'm seriously doubting your claim of being American.

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#22 Dec 7, 2012
tranpsosition wrote:
I was a bit surprised when you said that O'Mara presents well on tv. If he had anything to do with the drafting of this he is an idiot.
These aren't the people behind his legal defence as well, I would hope?
They are.

They have already accomplished on win in court, which was the judge turning down the prosecution request for a gag order.

O'Mara presented as rational and well-ordered.

De LaRionda, who I think had some very good points, just appeared disorganized and all over the map in his arguments.

Again--I suspect that this was drafted by George, who has a lot of time on his hands and strikes me as somewhat obsessive and perhaps paranoid. Allowing him to draft this particular complaint--which if it succeeds at all is likely to be due to NBC simply not wanting to be bothered by the expense of a trial--might well have served to keep him out of O'Mara's hair for awhile.

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#23 Dec 7, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>So says the transcript and it's even more apparent when you listen to the audio.
So says George in the transcript.

Further, it is not apparent to me. Clearly he stopped running because he lost sight of Trayvon. But, his request that the cruiser call him when they arrive, rather than meeting him at his truck indicate an intent to do something other than return to his truck.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

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#24 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
They are.
They have already accomplished on win in court, which was the judge turning down the prosecution request for a gag order.
O'Mara presented as rational and well-ordered.
De LaRionda, who I think had some very good points, just appeared disorganized and all over the map in his arguments.
Again--I suspect that this was drafted by George, who has a lot of time on his hands and strikes me as somewhat obsessive and perhaps paranoid. Allowing him to draft this particular complaint--which if it succeeds at all is likely to be due to NBC simply not wanting to be bothered by the expense of a trial--might well have served to keep him out of O'Mara's hair for awhile.
Well, should leave for ample room to appeal, at least.
tip

Delaware, OH

#25 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Just read through it.
Looks like it was written by George, perhaps formatted by some low-level intern or paralegal.
LiG wrote it.

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