Rally protests Cleveland shootings

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#431 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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I notice George is approaching 300 posts already. And he's only been using his current name since, what, Monday?
He must be dominating the action in quite a few locations.
Nothing better to worry about. Why am I not surprised? Oh, Ms. Almost 9,500. Go warm up your cat food for dinner.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#432 Dec 7, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Yep. Karl proved that when he registered this week.
We all know it. You can clueless me all you want, but it doesn't change the facts.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#433 Dec 7, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Are you going to make it to a tidy 10,000 for the year?
I might.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

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#434 Dec 7, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Yep. Karl proved that when he registered this week.
It just happens that I recall someone calling attention, on your first day as Hugh Victor Thompson III to the fadt that you were already up to 50 posts. Now, that was Monday. So, at least 250 from that point forward.

I don't really care, just pointing it out because it would seem that you really ARE all over the place, and it's pretty likely that you are engaging in behavior SOMEWHERE that keeps getting your identities yanked--even if none of us here in Columbus are seeing it.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#435 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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It just happens that I recall someone calling attention, on your first day as Hugh Victor Thompson III to the fadt that you were already up to 50 posts. Now, that was Monday. So, at least 250 from that point forward.
I don't really care, just pointing it out because it would seem that you really ARE all over the place, and it's pretty likely that you are engaging in behavior SOMEWHERE that keeps getting your identities yanked--even if none of us here in Columbus are seeing it.
Believe it or not, I am on the Columbus forum only. There was a time months ago when I was on that ridiculously long (13,000+ post) "Who Do You Want For Governor of Ohio" thread that was (and is) what my daughter would call "a white hot mess." There are posters there who make the looniest trolls here look like members of an Edwardian gentlemens club.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#437 Dec 7, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Believe it or not, I am on the Columbus forum only. There was a time months ago when I was on that ridiculously long (13,000+ post) "Who Do You Want For Governor of Ohio" thread that was (and is) what my daughter would call "a white hot mess." There are posters there who make the looniest trolls here look like members of an Edwardian gentlemens club.
Those get to be like a private club.

Back in the Dispatch days there was a smoking/no smoking thread like that.

“Cats rule.”

Since: Dec 09

Chardon Ohio.

#438 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Those get to be like a private club.
Back in the Dispatch days there was a smoking/no smoking thread like that.
I've never seen smoke coming out of my computer.

“Cats rule.”

Since: Dec 09

Chardon Ohio.

#440 Dec 7, 2012
Karl Monday wrote:
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It was a thread about a court challenge to the smoking ban passed a few years ago.
The who do you want for Governor thread is mostly dominated by Duke and Che, two Marxists who formerly resided on the Akron forum, but ran everyone off. The same spoof trolls that annoy us here were much more present there.
I know.But I dont go near that other one.I try not to get into political discussions because all of them are liars.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#441 Dec 7, 2012
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text>As I've said, money is what rules this world you either strive to get some of it or sit and bytch about politicians doing what they've done since the Roman empire and stay being broke! If your taxes rise it'll be on the local level, and not your federal withholdings.
Your boy wants the rich to pay more. It works politically, because most people don't stop to realize where rich people get the money they pay in taxes, and thus by supporting it they are unknowingly engaging in self-copulation.
Spell Checker Jones

Columbus, OH

#442 Dec 7, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Believe it or not, I am on the Columbus forum only. There was a time months ago when I was on that ridiculously long (13,000+ post) "Who Do You Want For Governor of Ohio" thread that was (and is) what my daughter would call "a white hot mess." There are posters there who make the looniest trolls here look like members of an Edwardian gentlemens club.
that sounds a little queer........

and you can't spell "gentlemen's" worth a darn.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#444 Dec 8, 2012
Why the focus on 137 shots, and no focus on the danger these two people put on others when they chose to run? Anyone could have been killed. If police procedures weren't followed, then that will be dealt with. But anyway you look at this, it's against the law to not pull over when the police have signaled for you to do so. So much would have been prevented. What were they afraid of? They had been in the system before. They had been in and out of the system. This would have just been same old crap, different day but they would still be alive. So why did he run?
LaToya wrote:
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Who ever authorized this travesty should be FIRED and PROSECUTED.
Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that Bonnie and Clyde weren't in that car and that the Police acted like a pack of blood thirsty Jackals.........and they wonder why there is disdain in our community for the "men in blue"
PD find ANY other incident like this where 137 shots were fired at a man and woman?

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#445 Dec 8, 2012
As for the protests, I see people who had very little to do with the way these two lived their lives before they died, now looking for some sort of payday. You better believe they are looking for reasons to sue the City of Cleveland. But you can't get much from a city where most of the residents don't work or pay taxes. Heck, the police aren't even paid what they are worth, and having to deal with career criminals.
Pam

Plain City, OH

#446 Dec 8, 2012
Sally wrote:
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Go in your basement, play with yourself and watch porn then Big Johnson. This is a serious issue in our state.
He (Big Johnson) really is infantile isn't he?
tip

Delaware, OH

#447 Dec 9, 2012
Pam wrote:
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He (Big Johnson) really is infantile isn't he?
Why aren't you registered?
La Toya

Springboro, OH

#448 Dec 9, 2012
How come all these officers ignored the cop who was saying on the radio that it was just a pop can not a gun?

In my opinion, these 13 cops were eager to open fire and kill. Every movement by the passenger - who must've been absolutely terrified - was construed as evidence she had a gone to the police who couldn't wait to open fire. For example, from 19 Action News: "Meantime, we're told at least one officer is saying the passenger also somehow waved a hand out the window as if she had a gun." How do you wave your hand out the window as if you have a gun if you have no gun? What if she was waving her hand out the window because she didn't know what else to do and she wanted to make sure the cops knew there was another person in the car?

And on the police radio, a cop says she looks like she's reloading a gun. How does one look like they're reloading a gun? By looking down at any moment? What if she was unbuckling her seat belt so she could get out of the car with her hands up?

I have yet to see ANY evidence that the passenger committed any crime at all that night.

Police are supposed to try their best to bring suspects in alive and unharmed. If they are not up to being brave enough to be police officers in an urban environment like Cleveland, and able to handle situations while remaining professional at all times, they shouldn't be police officers in Cleveland.

Let's say the driver did ram into a police car when he was surrounded. Yes, that would be a vehicular assault. But did the police really HAVE TO open fire with a barrage of bullets? Why weren't they trying THEIR BEST to preserve the lives of the suspects? Why was there a SECOND barrage of bullets, instead of audio of cops yelling "CEASE FIRE!!!!! CEASE FIRE!!!!!"?

On of the saddest things about this story is how many citizens of Greater Cleveland apparently would be okay living under fascism, and apparently feel the police can use any level of force they want and no one should question them afterwards. These people have such low standards for Cleveland no wonder the whole city is corrupt. But I believe people in Cleveland should expect and demand that the police be of the highest level of training and professionalism.

Furthermore, I'm tired of a city that tells us garbage like, "Well, we'll look into getting more of those dashcams someday," and "Spike strips? They may have helped but no one knows where we keep them, they're in storage somewhere." Cleveland, you'll stop being a joke of a city when you stop behaving like a joke of a city.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#449 Dec 9, 2012
I think you're way too focused on the cops. The lifestyle of the criminals was headed for tragedy. If not the cops, maybe someone else. How many innocent people would need to get hurt, so these two can live their criminal careers. Sure some cops make mistakes, but that's why you follow the law, and don't run away from cops. You are also very focused on the passenger. Is this a relative? I've heard how her relatives had a hard time trying to get help for her, and trying to make her get help. She was combative, and probably in need of meds. But you can't force an adult to behave, or take meds. These two were a recipe for tragedy that could have been prevented. I'm sure those cops didn't wake up that day saying they want to shoot these two. It didn't need to happen and you really need to focus on the behavior of the two involved. If these two had come after you, you'd sure be calling the cops.
La Toya wrote:
How come all these officers ignored the cop who was saying on the radio that it was just a pop can not a gun?
In my opinion, these 13 cops were eager to open fire and kill. Every movement by the passenger - who must've been absolutely terrified - was construed as evidence she had a gone to the police who couldn't wait to open fire. For example, from 19 Action News: "Meantime, we're told at least one officer is saying the passenger also somehow waved a hand out the window as if she had a gun." How do you wave your hand out the window as if you have a gun if you have no gun? What if she was waving her hand out the window because she didn't know what else to do and she wanted to make sure the cops knew there was another person in the car?
And on the police radio, a cop says she looks like she's reloading a gun. How does one look like they're reloading a gun? By looking down at any moment? What if she was unbuckling her seat belt so she could get out of the car with her hands up?
I have yet to see ANY evidence that the passenger committed any crime at all that night.
Police are supposed to try their best to bring suspects in alive and unharmed. If they are not up to being brave enough to be police officers in an urban environment like Cleveland, and able to handle situations while remaining professional at all times, they shouldn't be police officers in Cleveland.
Let's say the driver did ram into a police car when he was surrounded. Yes, that would be a vehicular assault. But did the police really HAVE TO open fire with a barrage of bullets? Why weren't they trying THEIR BEST to preserve the lives of the suspects? Why was there a SECOND barrage of bullets, instead of audio of cops yelling "CEASE FIRE!!!!! CEASE FIRE!!!!!"?
On of the saddest things about this story is how many citizens of Greater Cleveland apparently would be okay living under fascism, and apparently feel the police can use any level of force they want and no one should question them afterwards. These people have such low standards for Cleveland no wonder the whole city is corrupt. But I believe people in Cleveland should expect and demand that the police be of the highest level of training and professionalism.
Furthermore, I'm tired of a city that tells us garbage like, "Well, we'll look into getting more of those dashcams someday," and "Spike strips? They may have helped but no one knows where we keep them, they're in storage somewhere." Cleveland, you'll stop being a joke of a city when you stop behaving like a joke of a city.
LaToya

Springboro, OH

#450 Dec 19, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
For Latoya (this dates back to January 2012):
tip--you have offered up a skillful mixing of lies, half-truths and truth. For example, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright does NOT (to my knowledge) advocate rewording the song God Bless America to say God Damn America. One of his speeches does urge condemnation of America for wrongs.
And among the wrongs listed there, many are hard to deny. It is hard to deny the role of slavery in building this nation, nor the reality that the likelihood of a young black man going to prison is much higher than the likelihood of finding that young man in college. The US has supported Zionism at the expense of recognizing Palestinians.
We may or may not have deserved the events of 9/11. However, our actions have played a role in the shaping of the events of the world--including the rise of fundamentalism and terrorism. We cannot expect to garner props for being a peacekeeper in the world without acknowledging that such actions often have unintended consequences.
I do not agree that we created AIDs. But I well understand where the willingness to believe such things comes from. It comes from using black people (and poor orphans, prisoners and other powerless groups) for medical research without such a thing as "informed consent" or concern for the impact on individuals.
However, I do not want Rev Wright to become an effective deflection from the very real wrongs being fostered by Helen Ukpabio--with financial support and applause from American Christians.
http://www.topix.com/forum/columbus/TBN4SJ9LC...
Thank you very much Reader for providing this information and for having the courage to stand up to the bullies on this forum especially Hugh III who takes EVERYTHING out of context.

With the shooting in Connecticut this story just disappeared.
LaToya

Springboro, OH

#451 Dec 19, 2012
jenny623 wrote:
I think you're way too focused on the cops. The lifestyle of the criminals was headed for tragedy. If not the cops, maybe someone else. How many innocent people would need to get hurt, so these two can live their criminal careers. Sure some cops make mistakes, but that's why you follow the law, and don't run away from cops. You are also very focused on the passenger. Is this a relative? I've heard how her relatives had a hard time trying to get help for her, and trying to make her get help. She was combative, and probably in need of meds. But you can't force an adult to behave, or take meds. These two were a recipe for tragedy that could have been prevented. I'm sure those cops didn't wake up that day saying they want to shoot these two. It didn't need to happen and you really need to focus on the behavior of the two involved. If these two had come after you, you'd sure be calling the cops.
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I disagree Jenny 623. The police need to be held to a higher standard.
Spookishere F trolls

Detroit, MI

#452 Dec 20, 2012
LaToya wrote:
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I disagree Jenny 623. The police need to be held to a higher standard.
On that we agree. While I have no problem with them killing criminals I am sick of hewring about how special cops are, last I checked they were not drafted so if they don't want to be held to tougher higher standard they can quit any time.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#453 Dec 20, 2012
Maybe we all should hold ourselves to a higher standard and there would be no need for police to go on high speed chases that risk everyone's lives.
LaToya wrote:
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I disagree Jenny 623. The police need to be held to a higher standard.

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