Police charge teen in pedestrian death

Police charge teen in pedestrian death

There are 75 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Aug 27, 2009, titled Police charge teen in pedestrian death. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

A 16-year-old Westerville youth has been charged with a delinquency count of vehicular homicide in the death of a pedestrian on July 2. William L. Hall Jr.

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Common Sense

Columbus, OH

#1 Aug 27, 2009
Changing a CD, talking on a cell phone, texting, etc...
These never cause accidents, do they?
margeo

Columbus, OH

#2 Aug 27, 2009
This is just another example of why the driver's license age limit should be raised to 18. Had this driver been 18, he would have been charged as an adult and his sentence would have been more severe. While he will have to live with this for the rest of his life, the penalty for this offense will seem trivial to the victim's fiance' and his/her families.
ohsure

Northfield, OH

#3 Aug 27, 2009
STUPID TEENS AGAIN
JLA ESQ

Baltimore, MD

#4 Aug 27, 2009
This is certainly a tragedy, however, this teen was guilty of inexperience and negligence, which will now mark him for the remainder of his life. Is vehicular homicide, essentially classifying this occurrence in the same manner as a death caused by drinking and driving or excessive speed, the appropriate charge? I question that. And, if you want to keep people from drinking and driving, changing CD's while driving, etc., then the solution is simple - all cars being equipped with ignition interlock which requires a puff of breath to check level of intoxication and which will prevent the ignition from firing if over the legal limit, and a lock on CD's, MP3's etc. which prevent the songs/disks/digital material from being changed while the motor vehicle is moving.
NEED MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS

Somerset, KY

#5 Aug 27, 2009
In other Wasterville news, two teen EMPLOYEES of McDonald's on N. State (near Meijers) were arrested by the police YESTERDAY in the McDonald's parking lot, apparently related to drug dealing. I was there; I saw it. It looked like a sting operation or a stake out due to number of detectives there.

Does anybody know anything about this case? Was it drugs and who are these kids and why are they working at McDonald's preparing food that people eat?

Not many people walk into McDonald's, order a hamburger, and say, I'll have some drugs with that!
Adam P

Gnadenhutten, OH

#6 Aug 27, 2009
This is sad for everyone involved.

I hope he is allow to use the defense of Donte Stallworth.
The NFL football player, who was DUI and only spent a few days in Jail, and then released, after killing a man.

It only seems fair that this young man will have suffered enough, now and the rest of his life. I hope the system goes with compassion, and reason.
Cynic

Galloway, OH

#7 Aug 27, 2009
I am surprised Westerville didn't find more charges to levy. They likely put their heads together and took the worst they could find. From personal experience, Westerville Police Department, and most police departments abuse kids, and then wonder why they have no repect for the boys in blue.
NEED MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS

Somerset, KY

#8 Aug 27, 2009
Adam P wrote:
This is sad for everyone involved.
I hope he is allow to use the defense of Donte Stallworth.
The NFL football player, who was DUI and only spent a few days in Jail, and then released, after killing a man.
It only seems fair that this young man will have suffered enough, now and the rest of his life. I hope the system goes with compassion, and reason.
Nobody "suffers enough" for getting away with murder. And, "reason" tells us that we need a few public executions to dissuade others from killing 43,000 individuals per year using motor vehicle weapons. 43,000 a year dead and you're worried this latest little murderer might suffer "too much"? You're nuts.

Public executions of the next three culprits caught red-handed with their motor vehicle sticking out the back of the one in front of them should be sufficient to save 20,000 lives or more per year, every year. Or, if you don't like public executions, how about financial penalties in amounts that have some rational relationship to the magnitude of murder and mayhem caused by murderous operators of motor vehicle weapons.

At any rate, I told you so (to cover the human road kill that we'll see for the rest of today alone).
Dave

Groveport, OH

#9 Aug 27, 2009
Adam P wrote:
This is sad for everyone involved.
I hope he is allow to use the defense of Donte Stallworth.
The NFL football player, who was DUI and only spent a few days in Jail, and then released, after killing a man.
It only seems fair that this young man will have suffered enough, now and the rest of his life. I hope the system goes with compassion, and reason.
Bad comparison.The death volunteer in the Stallworth case was jaywalking in a 55mph zone in the dark.He darted into the roadway and was run over.

This kid ran off the road and killed a innocent man,HUGE difference to anyone with a functioning brain.
yeah right

Delaware, OH

#10 Aug 27, 2009
The guy is walking down the sidewalk minding his own business, then he gets hit by some kid not paying attention to what he is supposed to be doing.
They need to send a message, and I am real sorry this kid would have to be the first to be made an example of.
They should lock him up for a long time and send the message that driving is a very serious matter, you will face very real consequences for hurting someone because of your negligence
Think things thru 1st

Loveland, OH

#11 Aug 27, 2009
The comments all seem to be out of touch. No one seems to understand that this kid is going to have a horrible life. He probably won't be able to go to college, or even finish high school; so, he is going to have no education. He won't have a good job, and he will live with the fact that he caused to die. Trying him as an adult will not help the family. This was an accident. Harsher penalties and more traffic tickets will not give a solution, because this is not a result of fast driving. It is a result of inexperience, and the fact that distracted driving is common on today's roads.
And JLA ESQ's proposed solution will never happen, 1984 much?
Also NEED MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS's seems to think that drug users cannot operate normally within society. There is absolutely no reason why some people who work at a minimum wage job cannot make your food, and deal. Assuming marijuana (my guess is that this is substance in question) was legalized, then the two employees would not be dealing drugs. A user would go to a dispensary and act in a safe and responsible manner without the fear of legal troubles.
My condolences go out to both families involved.
Life Long Resident

Toledo, OH

#12 Aug 27, 2009
This is a tragedy for both families. I don't think we need to cause more heartache with the comments that are being posted. The families of there two are forever changed. Have you never ran over a curb, off the side of the road, ran a light etc? Our society would be better off if we all worked together to heal the hurts instead of pushing the knife. GOLDEN RULE Treat others as you would want to be treated.
Ann

Canal Winchester, OH

#13 Aug 27, 2009
Cynic wrote:
I am surprised Westerville didn't find more charges to levy. They likely put their heads together and took the worst they could find. From personal experience, Westerville Police Department, and most police departments abuse kids, and then wonder why they have no repect for the boys in blue.
Sorry but I have to disagree with your slam of the Westerville Police Department. They are recognized for their excellence. They work closely with the kids in Westerville within the schools, community and events. As a Westerville resident with kids, I see the respect the kids have for them. The Westerville Police also have one of the best reputations in the nation for stopping child molesters. If your "experience" was poor then maybe see if in your case the child you are referring to was at fault. As for Mr Baker's family, justice will never be fully served.
yeah right

Delaware, OH

#14 Aug 27, 2009
Think things thru 1st wrote:
The comments all seem to be out of touch. No one seems to understand that this kid is going to have a horrible life. He probably won't be able to go to college, or even finish high school; so, he is going to have no education. He won't have a good job, and he will live with the fact that he caused to die. Trying him as an adult will not help the family. This was an accident. Harsher penalties and more traffic tickets will not give a solution, because this is not a result of fast driving. It is a result of inexperience, and the fact that distracted driving is common on today's roads.
And JLA ESQ's proposed solution will never happen, 1984 much?
Also NEED MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS's seems to think that drug users cannot operate normally within society. There is absolutely no reason why some people who work at a minimum wage job cannot make your food, and deal. Assuming marijuana (my guess is that this is substance in question) was legalized, then the two employees would not be dealing drugs. A user would go to a dispensary and act in a safe and responsible manner without the fear of legal troubles.
My condolences go out to both families involved.
what are you nuts ?
Distracted driving is common on todays roads, so accept it as a fact ? What should we all do walk the sidewalks in a full suit of armor ?
And nothing wrong with kids making my hamburger and dealing ? What planet are you from you nut-case ?
NEED MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS

Somerset, KY

#15 Aug 27, 2009
Ann wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry but I have to disagree with your slam of the Westerville Police Department. They are recognized for their excellence. They work closely with the kids in Westerville within the schools, community and events. As a Westerville resident with kids, I see the respect the kids have for them. The Westerville Police also have one of the best reputations in the nation for stopping child molesters. If your "experience" was poor then maybe see if in your case the child you are referring to was at fault. As for Mr Baker's family, justice will never be fully served.
If the Westerville Police are so great, how come they turn a BLIND EYE to this endless, in your face, repetition of cases where vehicles follow at mindlessly and dangerously close distances? I see no enforcement of even MINIMAL Rules. It's the Wild West and basically anything goes. The Westerville Police don't TRULY believe in PUBLIC SAFETY. They put on a good act and have great lip service and a boatload of EXCUSES, like all the other Dept's. How about some LAW ENFORCEMENT in exchange for our tax dollars?????

43,000 dead per year in crashes and 3 million wounded. With a statistic like that who needs Al Quaeda??????? Has Al Quaeda killed 43,0000 Americans EVERY year. If the Police wanted public safety they could do it, but they're too dam lazy and too dumb and thus we'll have 43,000 dead every year until you're dead, too.

Eh ghad...what a bunch of morons.
Ridiculous

Columbus, OH

#16 Aug 27, 2009
Tarnish this 16 year old for life? Reckless, probably. But he was below the speed limit and it was an ACCIDENT. A crime doesn't occur every time there's an accident.

How about charging that POLICE OFFICER who ran over a pedestrian a few months ago and killed him. Oh, he didn't see him lying in the middle of the road? What the heck was he paying attention to?!? Or the cops doing 150 MPH on the highway? Charge them with more than speeding. Or charge a kid with killing his twin brother and lock him up for 18 months without an iota of evidence.

Pathetic. A terribly sad story only made worse by doing this. Who the heck is in charge of the legal system here!!!???
Dave

Groveport, OH

#17 Aug 27, 2009
Ridiculous wrote:
Tarnish this 16 year old for life? Reckless, probably. But he was below the speed limit and it was an ACCIDENT. A crime doesn't occur every time there's an accident.
How about charging that POLICE OFFICER who ran over a pedestrian a few months ago and killed him. Oh, he didn't see him lying in the middle of the road? What the heck was he paying attention to?!? Or the cops doing 150 MPH on the highway? Charge them with more than speeding. Or charge a kid with killing his twin brother and lock him up for 18 months without an iota of evidence.
Pathetic. A terribly sad story only made worse by doing this. Who the heck is in charge of the legal system here!!!???
You make good points but the comment about the guy lying in the road is stupid.Roads are for cars not for humans to lay down on.
Ugh

Columbus, OH

#18 Aug 27, 2009
WHY is this boy's name being named? Have the people making such decisions ever gone to high school? Do they have no idea what kind of repercussions it will cause for years--on top of the devastation of knowing he was responsible for this man's death and being charged?
I find the comments from all these "judges" interesting and very sad. So none of you has ever been distracted for even a second while driving a car? I am practically religious about this--NEVER talk on the phone while driving, NEVER mess with the radio, and my kids have always known that if they engage in distracting behavior, we pull off the road safely and progress halts until they knock it off. Yet of course there have been moments when I was distracted--passenger is stung by a bee, something spills in the car unexpectedly and I turn for a second, things like this. I was very, very lucky that my moments of distraction did not ruin my life--and I suspect that the rest of you have had similar luck that enables you to judge this boy.
We lecture kids now about cell phones and texting, but I don't think they are as aware that smaller distractions can cause terrible accidents. This could have happened to anyone, especially a new driver.
Confused

Lexington, KY

#19 Aug 27, 2009
Think things thru 1st wrote:
The comments all seem to be out of touch. No one seems to understand that this kid is going to have a horrible life. He probably won't be able to go to college, or even finish high school; so, he is going to have no education. He won't have a good job, and he will live with the fact that he caused to die. Trying him as an adult will not help the family. This was an accident. Harsher penalties and more traffic tickets will not give a solution, because this is not a result of fast driving. It is a result of inexperience, and the fact that distracted driving is common on today's roads.
And JLA ESQ's proposed solution will never happen, 1984 much?
Also NEED MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS's seems to think that drug users cannot operate normally within society. There is absolutely no reason why some people who work at a minimum wage job cannot make your food, and deal. Assuming marijuana (my guess is that this is substance in question) was legalized, then the two employees would not be dealing drugs. A user would go to a dispensary and act in a safe and responsible manner without the fear of legal troubles.
My condolences go out to both families involved.
I'm not sure why you have condemned this kid to a crap life. There is nothing in the law that says he can't go to college or finish the school he is in or anything else. He is 16. He will be judged as a 16 year old, will more than likely get a ton of community service, a very large fine and a record which will be expunged by his lawyer once he turns 18. Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. This kid made a huge mistake and new drivers do it all the time....doesn't make it right but it happens
Mike

Powell, OH

#20 Aug 27, 2009
Think things thru 1st wrote:
The comments all seem to be out of touch. No one seems to understand that this kid is going to have a horrible life. He probably won't be able to go to college, or even finish high school; so, he is going to have no education. He won't have a good job, and he will live with the fact that he caused to die. Trying him as an adult will not help the family. This was an accident. Harsher penalties and more traffic tickets will not give a solution, because this is not a result of fast driving. It is a result of inexperience, and the fact that distracted driving is common on today's roads.
And JLA ESQ's proposed solution will never happen, 1984 much?
Also NEED MORE TRAFFIC TICKETS's seems to think that drug users cannot operate normally within society. There is absolutely no reason why some people who work at a minimum wage job cannot make your food, and deal. Assuming marijuana (my guess is that this is substance in question) was legalized, then the two employees would not be dealing drugs. A user would go to a dispensary and act in a safe and responsible manner without the fear of legal troubles.
My condolences go out to both families involved.
What the **** is wrong with you? I am having a hard time finding words to comment on such stupidity. Drug dealers functioning normally in society and it is the law's fault that drug dealers act irresponsibility? Go get help...FAST!!

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