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Karl

Dalton, OH

#24 Nov 15, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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Two old sayings come to mind and they both fit you to a tee. All blow, no go and those who talk the most, do the least.
Unlike you Spook, I'm for real. I voted for Gary Johnson, which conservative did you vote for?
Hey, maybe you'll luck out and we'll actually have enough snow for you to plow this winter so you can afford your meth.
Gary Johnson "Amnesty,abortion,acid "

Sounds like George McGovern, wasn't he a liberal

I thought the Libertarians always called themselves "classical liberals" or the true liberals.

Kosmik

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#25 Nov 16, 2012
Spookstillhere f trolls wrote:
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You are an idiot and a liar. Anyone who could support so many communists and Democrats throughout history would never really support any Libertarians. As for snow you evidently can't grasp that people use equiment to make roadways in the summer and fall.and when it gets cold use them for other things such as pushing snow as well as hiring subs that would have been mowing grass working construction etc to plow.snow as well. I know you don't understand the concept of making money on multiple fronts since your boy friends provode you with internet and Obama provides you a phone.
Do the world a favor and slit your wrists in a rose garden. It will be the only worthwhile thing you ever do.
So the big, independent oil man is in reality a snow plow driver and rock hauler. Lies are always easy to see through. Especially when the liar is as dumb as you and can't remember your falsehoods.

Hey, you never answered who was the conservative that you voted for, you wuss?

Kosmik

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#26 Nov 16, 2012
Karl wrote:
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Gary Johnson "Amnesty,abortion,acid "
Sounds like George McGovern, wasn't he a liberal
I thought the Libertarians always called themselves "classical liberals" or the true liberals.
What does it matter to you? You're one who prefers to be enslaved to feed the rich, that's exactly how you voted.

I love you phonies who are Republicans but are too ashamed to admit it.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#27 Nov 16, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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What does it matter to you? You're one who prefers to be enslaved to feed the rich, that's exactly how you voted.
I love you phonies who are Republicans but are too ashamed to admit it.
everyone should listen to the union goons to go on strike.

look how well for 19,000 Hostess fired employees that worked out.

feeding the stupid?

let them starve....they made their own bed, now lay in it.

Kosmik

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#28 Nov 16, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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everyone should listen to the union goons to go on strike.
look how well for 19,000 Hostess fired employees that worked out.
feeding the stupid?
let them starve....they made their own bed, now lay in it.
How many pay cuts have you taken over the past 10 years? How much have you cut your employees pay over the past 10 years? These people have taken cut after cut.

Sure I feel bad for them but a business who has no national competition and a viable product line who can't remain afloat indicates the problems were at the top.
Spookstillhere f trolls

Toledo, OH

#29 Nov 16, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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everyone should listen to the union goons to go on strike.
look how well for 19,000 Hostess fired employees that worked out.
feeding the stupid?
let them starve....they made their own bed, now lay in it.
I agree. Union strikes and resisting improved equipment worked well for the steel mills too. Damn dumb union suckers.
Oliver Twist

Springfield, OH

#30 Nov 16, 2012
Bill Hates wrote:
This is now a Democratic nation. Shut up and geto ut of the way..
we are moving FORWARD !!!
We are actually moving backward into the Third World, Obama as introduced bankrupt Soviet style economic policies and unsanitary diseases that were eradicated have now returned.

Remember to wash your hands.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#31 Nov 16, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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How many pay cuts have you taken over the past 10 years? How much have you cut your employees pay over the past 10 years? These people have taken cut after cut.
Sure I feel bad for them but a business who has no national competition and a viable product line who can't remain afloat indicates the problems were at the top.
my pay is determined by paid shipments.

the more shipments I produce, the higher my pay

I pay for my own bennies.

pay increases due to merit for employees; and myself.

profit margins determine viability as a company.

when profit margins erode to point viability ceases, then good bye...see ya.

strike impacted viability for Hostess.

Kosmik

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#32 Nov 16, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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my pay is determined by paid shipments.
the more shipments I produce, the higher my pay
I pay for my own bennies.
pay increases due to merit for employees; and myself.
profit margins determine viability as a company.
when profit margins erode to point viability ceases, then good bye...see ya.
strike impacted viability for Hostess.
Wow, you need a business for dummies course but moving on.

A pack of Twinikies cost what,$1.39-$1.59 per pack? The main component in the increased cost of the product is most likely due to increased fuel costs. Their profit margin has shrunk due to increased delivery costs.

Hostess could very have easily bumped the price by a dime or so and done alright.

Hostess failed to keep up with the trends that their customers were following. The last 'new' product they had was mini-muffins. Had they stayed up with the more health conscious market they also may have survived.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#33 Nov 18, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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Wow, you need a business for dummies course but moving on.
A pack of Twinikies cost what,$1.39-$1.59 per pack? The main component in the increased cost of the product is most likely due to increased fuel costs. Their profit margin has shrunk due to increased delivery costs.
Hostess could very have easily bumped the price by a dime or so and done alright.
Hostess failed to keep up with the trends that their customers were following. The last 'new' product they had was mini-muffins. Had they stayed up with the more health conscious market they also may have survived.
as always.....you are wrong

if you knew how to read a balance or profit and loss statement, then you would know labor is the highest profit deduction.

Kosmik

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#34 Nov 18, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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as always.....you are wrong
if you knew how to read a balance or profit and loss statement, then you would know labor is the highest profit deduction.
Hostess had been successful in negotiating the cost of labor either flat or downward for the better part of the last decade.

I don't know if they were smart enough to transfer their vans over to natural gas.

Think about it, these vans had to hit several dozen convenience stores a day, maybe dealing with a few sales (or thefts) on to the next site. By sheer numbers they weren't doing enough business per site to justify being in existence.

In the same c-stores other pastries and baked goods are doing quite well.

Hostess will barely be missed.
Karl

Sugarcreek, OH

#35 Nov 18, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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Hostess had been successful in negotiating the cost of labor either flat or downward for the better part of the last decade.
I don't know if they were smart enough to transfer their vans over to natural gas.
Think about it, these vans had to hit several dozen convenience stores a day, maybe dealing with a few sales (or thefts) on to the next site. By sheer numbers they weren't doing enough business per site to justify being in existence.
In the same c-stores other pastries and baked goods are doing quite well.
Hostess will barely be missed.
I assume that the Mexican group that owns the brand in Mexico, which has factories in Texas, will take over.

They didn't sell anything "health-conscious" and they were bled by bad management and union militancy.

It's important to not disregard the militancy, they deliberately voted themselves out of a job.

The private sector has punishments, but government does not.

Kosmik

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#36 Nov 19, 2012
Karl wrote:
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I assume that the Mexican group that owns the brand in Mexico, which has factories in Texas, will take over.
They didn't sell anything "health-conscious" and they were bled by bad management and union militancy.
It's important to not disregard the militancy, they deliberately voted themselves out of a job.
The private sector has punishments, but government does not.
Yeah, whatever. That's not quite the situation in Dayton, they'll get their brands in certain markets, they'll just have trouble getting people to buy it.

Kosmik

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#37 Nov 19, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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as always.....you are wrong
if you knew how to read a balance or profit and loss statement, then you would know labor is the highest profit deduction.
Labor being considered a profit deduction itself is just funny and I know who will get hit with more scrutiny than I.

Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#38 Nov 19, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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Hostess had been successful in negotiating the cost of labor either flat or downward for the better part of the last decade.
I don't know if they were smart enough to transfer their vans over to natural gas.
Think about it, these vans had to hit several dozen convenience stores a day, maybe dealing with a few sales (or thefts) on to the next site. By sheer numbers they weren't doing enough business per site to justify being in existence.
In the same c-stores other pastries and baked goods are doing quite well.
Hostess will barely be missed.
tell that to the 19,000 unemployed ex-hostess employees.

your attempt at spin of what really occurred is funny.

Greedy union cost 19,000 people their jobs.

now those 19,000 have one less place to look.

according to Kosmik it was because they did not convert vans to natural gas.

in the real world....we know it was a labor strike, where they pushed to far and lost big time.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#39 Nov 19, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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tell that to the 19,000 unemployed ex-hostess employees.
your attempt at spin of what really occurred is funny.
Greedy union cost 19,000 people their jobs.
now those 19,000 have one less place to look.
according to Kosmik it was because they did not convert vans to natural gas.
in the real world....we know it was a labor strike, where they pushed to far and lost big time.
So let's say Imaginary Pizza Box Factory, Inc. folds because its retarded owner spends all his time drinking and posting on the Topix forum.

Does that mean that its customers just do without pizza boxes? Or will they buy pizza boxes from other manufacturers who will have to hire additional employees to meet the demand?

Answer me, kid!
Lib

Shelby, NC

#40 Nov 19, 2012
Me liberal
Me preach tolerance of all, but
Me not really mean it
Me tell Repubwicans to leave country
Life is Good

Delaware, OH

#41 Nov 19, 2012
Boomer7 wrote:
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Hey BB!
Let me know when you are east of the Mississippi. The first adult beverage is on me.
You know how to find me.
TOP was great back in June. Attempting to get, Here Come the Mummies, in town. Google or YouTube. Great band.
Are you cheating on me?
Teapublican

Reynoldsburg, OH

#42 Nov 21, 2012
Lib wrote:
Me liberal
Me preach tolerance of all, but
Me not really mean it
Me tell Repubwicans to leave country
They told me they have to draw a line and they can't tolerate us the far right fascist. Imagine if we tolerate Hitler then what would you do?

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