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Westerville teacher givebacks total $2.7 million | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 223 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 26, 2011, titled Westerville teacher givebacks total $2.7 million | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Westerville's teachers union has agreed to concessions that will save the district about $2.7 million this school year.

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reality check

Pickerington, OH

#3 Jul 26, 2011
Thank you SB 5.

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Hayduke

Chicago, IL

#4 Jul 26, 2011
The Teachers Union has NEVER agreed to pay cuts..... Not now or in the past
Their idea of "concession" is taking less now and the rest later.....
Let's see actual 10% pay CUTS........ With NO raises of any kind foe 3 years.....
Differing a raise or part of a raise until next year ISN'T a cut

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Smawgunner

Columbus, OH

#5 Jul 26, 2011
WHY? Kasuck is going to take it anyway.
Why

Columbus, OH

#7 Jul 26, 2011
Smawgunner wrote:
WHY? Kasuck is going to take it anyway.
I think you mean Obama wants to take it. Get it straight.
TEyhe real truth

Dublin, OH

#8 Jul 26, 2011
ThEy just did. they had a contract that was negotiated in good faithnand agreed to by both sides. They decided e to give it knack. Under the Strikland administration public employees took furlough days. what with all the anger towards the people who serve your children and you. I know many teachers working right now to get ready for next year. A relative a mine suffered a spinal injury while fighting a fire. Grow up a realize people need to be paid. People are willing to sacrifice In tough economic times. Why can't rich folks do the same? These public employees shop and do business in Ohio. They help fund your retirement. They help pay for your kid to go to school. They shop at locally owned business. They invested in job training out of their own pocket so they could better serve you. corporations in Ohio use our workforce, our education facilities, our roads all to make a profit. In return many of these corporations want to pay no taxes and better yet demand that they get corporate welfare. many of these same companies are not creating jobs are making huge profits and shedding jobs at the same time. My suggestion to all those who hate unionized public employees is to redirect your anger toward the party in power in Ohio who is not helping to create jobs.

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Jaded cynic

Grove City, OH

#9 Jul 26, 2011
The teachers are giving back NOTHING! They are deferring the raises to 2013 and continuing step increases. Pretty much business as usual.

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Ben Dover

Seymour, IL

#10 Jul 26, 2011
TEyhe real truth wrote:
ThEy just did. they had a contract that was negotiated in good faithnand agreed to by both sides. They decided e to give it knack. Under the Strikland administration public employees took furlough days. what with all the anger towards the people who serve your children and you. I know many teachers working right now to get ready for next year. A relative a mine suffered a spinal injury while fighting a fire. Grow up a realize people need to be paid. People are willing to sacrifice In tough economic times. Why can't rich folks do the same? These public employees shop and do business in Ohio. They help fund your retirement. They help pay for your kid to go to school. They shop at locally owned business. They invested in job training out of their own pocket so they could better serve you. corporations in Ohio use our workforce, our education facilities, our roads all to make a profit. In return many of these corporations want to pay no taxes and better yet demand that they get corporate welfare. many of these same companies are not creating jobs are making huge profits and shedding jobs at the same time. My suggestion to all those who hate unionized public employees is to redirect your anger toward the party in power in Ohio who is not helping to create jobs.
Delaying a raise for a year is NOT a cut. It only prolongs the agony to the taxpayer for a year.
Ben Dover

Seymour, IL

#11 Jul 26, 2011
Chris Williams, president of the Westerville Education Association, told board members at last night's meeting that the district's teachers, nurses, guidance counselors and other certified employees agreed to give back $1.7 million in raises slated for the 2011-12 school year, including step increases.

So the admistrative staff continues to not help. Typical.

"Williams said the members also agreed to delay receiving some of their pay to the next fiscal year, which would shift $1 million in compensation to the 2013 fiscal year."

Wow, hope they can get by with this huge sacrafice.
unconscionable

Fairfield, OH

#12 Jul 26, 2011
reality check wrote:
Thank you SB 5.
Interesting that you give credit to a law that will never go into effect here in Ohio and ignore the fact that this belt tightening in schools has been going on across the State for quite some time now. The governor's budget and the difficulty in passing levies takes care of many of your tax-paying woes without SB5. Why are you in favor of this law again?
unconscionable

Fairfield, OH

#13 Jul 26, 2011
Jaded cynic wrote:
The teachers are giving back NOTHING! They are deferring the raises to 2013 and continuing step increases. Pretty much business as usual.
Yeah, those evil teachers. They should work for free.
Bear589

Groveport, OH

#14 Jul 26, 2011
Ben Dover wrote:
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Delaying a raise for a year is NOT a cut. It only prolongs the agony to the taxpayer for a year.
Would YOU be willing to defer a pay raise for a year? I doubt it. Rules are fine with you as long as they're only for other people to follow, aren't they?
Bear589

Groveport, OH

#15 Jul 26, 2011
reality check wrote:
Thank you SB 5.
Fortunately, SB5 is dead in the water.
Upnorth

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#16 Jul 26, 2011
Check out the Treasurer Griffiths new contract (which the board probably paid his attorney to draft and negotiate). You will find a free cell phone, a car allowance (so he can go, for free, to watch kids pay to play) the school picking up his employee portion of retirment, free medical, and increased life insurance greater than the typical contract and for free.

Oh, and all this will increase his disclosed salary in his contract, so multiply the $133,000 by about 1.40% to get the true cost to us and the true benefit to him. And yes, he'll get 88% of the grossed-up number (133,000 x 1.40%= 186,200 x .88 = 163,856) for life when he retires at 57.

You, the taxpayer, on the other hand, will pay your own social security, and you won't get it until you are 67, and it is capped at about $28,000 per year.

The greed starts at the top.

Vote no.

VOTE NO.
Quicher Complainin

Columbus, OH

#17 Jul 26, 2011
Educators forever have put their students first - paying for things out of their pockets, taking modest pay increases. Now, they are putting off increases, paying more for benefits, and on and on. The system is broken. Fix it.
How many wall street cry babies are taking pay cuts or deferring bonuses? I read where bonuses are returning to keep "good" people, regardless of their performance. Let's put merit pay into corporate America. See how long that lasts.
Indaknow

Columbus, OH

#18 Jul 26, 2011
Jaded cynic wrote:
The teachers are giving back NOTHING! They are deferring the raises to 2013 and continuing step increases. Pretty much business as usual.
You're wrong. The pay cycle is being changed so regular salary that would ordinarily be paid from the current fiscal year will instead come out of next fiscal year. It's not a deferral of raises; teachers agreed to reduce the salary they would have earned under their current contract.
Ben Dover

Seymour, IL

#19 Jul 26, 2011
Bear589 wrote:
<quoted text>Would YOU be willing to defer a pay raise for a year? I doubt it. Rules are fine with you as long as they're only for other people to follow, aren't they?
I have for the last four years so I could keep working.
Ben Dover

Seymour, IL

#20 Jul 26, 2011
Bear589 wrote:
<quoted text>Would YOU be willing to defer a pay raise for a year? I doubt it. Rules are fine with you as long as they're only for other people to follow, aren't they?
The other thing I do nat care for is that I need to pay another 1200 or so per year (depending on which option is choosen) to continue YOUR raises when I am not getting them. IF SB5 does somehow pass this family stands to lose about 750/month in income. Can't afford ANY increase. I have supported levies in the past but this pill is too big to swallow. It's not about the kids this time.
ronster

Summerville, SC

#21 Jul 26, 2011
OK you teabag b-----ds! Remember this when you next bitch about teachers. Our excellent staff in Westerville has been, and remains, a force of reason in the 'Ville. Can any of you make the same claim? I suspect not.
It is easy to complain about a group, but walk the proverbial mile in their shoes.
I'm proud of my colleagues!
Upnorth

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#22 Jul 26, 2011
I will sacrifice my lottery winnings for next year by not playing.

Please cheer for me and write articles in the paper for me about how much I have given up.

Teacher's average pay in Ohio is $52,000 for 9 months of work with 3 weeks of paid vacation WITHIN those 9 months AND 12 to 15 days of sick pay which accrues and is paid if not used (a rare if never seen perk in the private sector).

They tax us because they are greedy and cruel.

Vote no.

VOTE NO.
unconscionable

Fairfield, OH

#23 Jul 26, 2011
Ben Dover wrote:
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I have for the last four years so I could keep working.
Should have gone into politics or finance. They seem to be doing just fine.

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