Retailers object to a Walmart in Westerville | The Columbus Dispatch

Some Westerville retailers have a message for those involved in Wal-Mart's effort to open a store in the Westerville Square Shopping Center: Not so fast. Full Story
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Kubitschack

Pataskala, OH

#1 Jul 2, 2010
NOT NEEDED. We have enough Wally World stores around the north east side now. The city sure does not need another one. The small trip down to Morse road or over to Route 23 in Powell is small enough that we can all make that drive. It makes more sense for some other types of stores to build in that strip mall, like a store like the old Sunflower Organic market ( they had three stores) here in town? They had the best produce and the best prices in town!! Where is the consideration to bring in smaller retailers to help spur the job growth and the economy?????? We have the retail talent here to build and run a store like that, we just need a few people to step up and help the finances to start a store like that. Sure would be nice for all those needing jobs and for all the shoppers wanting more choices.
Mike

Columbus, OH

#2 Jul 2, 2010
So....with the economy being so bad, Wal-Mart would provide many jobs and provide the city with revenue from it's sales and people's salaries. How can that be bad?
SmartMom

Columbus, OH

#3 Jul 2, 2010
I'm a Westerville resident and I for one welcome this proposal. America shops Walmart whether some people like it or not -- and we might as well keep the jobs and tax revenue in our backyard. The old, tired argument that Uptown retailers are making again does not hold up because the type of product lines for the most part are different. You can't buy an antique dresser or special unique gift in Walmart and you can't buy a tv, pool or a lot of baby items in Uptown. Store fronts that have been vacant for years don't help anyone and nobody else is knocking. Big Lots is already there so making the strip mall a value oriented destination makes sense. While there are other Walmarts in the northeast area, getting to them with the traffic can be horrendous and this would be a convenient location with many neighborhoods nearby who will use it. Let's knock off the snobbiness, unfounded fears and take this opportunity to finally redevelop this strip mall while we have the chance.

Since: Dec 09

Columbus

#5 Jul 2, 2010
Good luck fighting Wal-Mart. Many have tried and failed. They have deep pockets and can't be matched dollar for dollar when they want something.
Voice of Reason

Pickerington, OH

#6 Jul 2, 2010
SmartMom wrote:
I'm a Westerville resident and I for one welcome this proposal. America shops Walmart whether some people like it or not -- and we might as well keep the jobs and tax revenue in our backyard. The old, tired argument that Uptown retailers are making again does not hold up because the type of product lines for the most part are different. You can't buy an antique dresser or special unique gift in Walmart and you can't buy a tv, pool or a lot of baby items in Uptown. Store fronts that have been vacant for years don't help anyone and nobody else is knocking. Big Lots is already there so making the strip mall a value oriented destination makes sense. While there are other Walmarts in the northeast area, getting to them with the traffic can be horrendous and this would be a convenient location with many neighborhoods nearby who will use it. Let's knock off the snobbiness, unfounded fears and take this opportunity to finally redevelop this strip mall while we have the chance.
Not so SmartMom, I am not sure what type of industry you or your significant other are employed in but how would you feel if your job was threatened by a company that didn't care about you, your family, neighbors, friends or country? That is what WalMart is, they are the leading exports of jobs and leading importer of cheaply made crap. And they don't care that they take jobs from the very consumers they are marketing to, and they certainly don't care about the quality of the product they are selling to you. WalMart has taken advantage of cheap overseas labor, government subsidized manufacturing and no regulations to improve their corporate bottom line and destroy American manufacturing. I am sure that this isn't what Sam Walton envisioned when he started WalMart.
Cell Phones Are Trash

Zanesville, OH

#7 Jul 2, 2010
WalMart is a "Big Store for VERY Small Minds". If you measured the IQ of the "average" WalMart shopper and compared that to the average IQ of, say, someone shopping in Barnes and Noble, you'd get the picture real fast. Do we really need to race to the bottom, indulge the LOWEST common denominator and so forth. WalMart is trash, sells trash, attracts trash and is a despicable "American" institution. Use your brain, dummies!!!!!
SmartMom

Columbus, OH

#8 Jul 2, 2010
The political sentiments Voice of Reason cites are well known -- but they aren't always valid reasons legally for a city to keep out a business. I'm Here is right about those deep pockets. Seeing our tax dollars wasted again on fighting something on purely moral grounds and unfounded fears about losing Westerville jobs is not a good use of our tax money. This kind of viewpoint ignores the fact that people in our area already shop at Walmart - and give that business to other cities. Value oriented businesses are already in Westerville - Big Lots and Marcs. Did the sky fall? If Hadler comes up with a workable plan the city building and development leaders can live with, we should not stand in their way and waste legal funds fighting them again.
CSD

United States

#9 Jul 2, 2010
Of course they don't like this idea. Not truer statement could be said, nor could it be more self-serving.
value is not a bad word

New Albany, OH

#10 Jul 2, 2010
Voice of Reason- please state some facts. Please cite your sources. I get tired of all the bashing of Walmart with wild statements that are never supported by any documented facts. People state Walmart underpays and drives model stores, with high-paying jobs, out of business. Do you really believe the Uptown stores pay associates $50/hr? Really? I would bet Walmart pays more- and offers some type of insurance- than the Uptown stores.
Yes, they are the biggest retailer in the world and for good reason- their lower prices. FYI, lower prices means myself and my neighbors have more $ in our pockets! Yikes- what a crime! thjey should be arrested for selling merchandise for less than their competitiors! It would leave people with more $ to uptown in Westerville and buy those merchant's overpriced and unnecessary stuff.
Walmart has merchandise that we need to live. The uptown stores have the nice-to-have niche merchandise. For the Uptown Westerville retailers to be scared of Walmart is misguided. Rogers said she'd much rather see the shopping center anchored by "a Trader Joe's or an Andersons" - or even another big-box retailer that isn't "such a value-driven type of business." VALUE. Hmmmm, when did value become a negative word? I guess Rogers is implying that the Uptown stores don't offer value? It's merhcandise is over-priced and unnecessary? If stores can't compete (i.e. Roush Hdwe) then move out of the way.
Economics 101: supply and demand over competition = fair market price. Looks like the Walmart-bashers want to have less competition so prices stay higher.
Enzyte Bob

Westerville, OH

#11 Jul 2, 2010
SmartMom wrote:
The political sentiments Voice of Reason cites are well known -- but they aren't always valid reasons legally for a city to keep out a business. I'm Here is right about those deep pockets. Seeing our tax dollars wasted again on fighting something on purely moral grounds and unfounded fears about losing Westerville jobs is not a good use of our tax money. This kind of viewpoint ignores the fact that people in our area already shop at Walmart - and give that business to other cities. Value oriented businesses are already in Westerville - Big Lots and Marcs. Did the sky fall? If Hadler comes up with a workable plan the city building and development leaders can live with, we should not stand in their way and waste legal funds fighting them again.
Any landlord would salivate to have Walmart as a tenant. If Walmart was such a bad store, why would landlords be so eager to have them on their properties?
Dirk

Columbus, OH

#12 Jul 2, 2010
Im_Here wrote:
Good luck fighting Wal-Mart. Many have tried and failed. They have deep pockets and can't be matched dollar for dollar when they want something.
They failed in Powell. Hurrah!
cew900

Columbus, OH

#13 Jul 2, 2010
Cell Phones Are Trash wrote:
WalMart is a "Big Store for VERY Small Minds". If you measured the IQ of the "average" WalMart shopper and compared that to the average IQ of, say, someone shopping in Barnes and Noble, you'd get the picture real fast. Do we really need to race to the bottom, indulge the LOWEST common denominator and so forth. WalMart is trash, sells trash, attracts trash and is a despicable "American" institution. Use your brain, dummies!!!!!
And if we compared the IQ of those that shop at Barnes and Noble (as you probably do...) to those that shop at the more elite book selelrs, we'd finc you are even less intelligent than a Wal Mart shopper.
Smarter Dad

Bowling Green, OH

#14 Jul 2, 2010
SmartMom wrote:
I'm a Westerville resident and I for one welcome this proposal. America shops Walmart whether some people like it or not -- and we might as well keep the jobs and tax revenue in our backyard. The old, tired argument that Uptown retailers are making again does not hold up because the type of product lines for the most part are different. You can't buy an antique dresser or special unique gift in Walmart and you can't buy a tv, pool or a lot of baby items in Uptown. Store fronts that have been vacant for years don't help anyone and nobody else is knocking. Big Lots is already there so making the strip mall a value oriented destination makes sense. While there are other Walmarts in the northeast area, getting to them with the traffic can be horrendous and this would be a convenient location with many neighborhoods nearby who will use it. Let's knock off the snobbiness, unfounded fears and take this opportunity to finally redevelop this strip mall while we have the chance.
I hope you get that Wal-Mart. Have you ever been in a Wal-Mart? Do you really want those people living near/in your city? Attention: All people on welfare, drugs, and illegal immigrants! "SMART MOM" says its "OK" to invade her city and turn it into another East Side Columbus! You really aren't as smart as you think you are. ;o) You may want that bar of soup for a dime cheaper, but you'll be pissed when you see your school system go down, property value plummet, and crime go up. Hope it was worth it! I'll sit back in Upper Arlington and watch your city fall in the next decade! Don't say I didn't warn you.:o)
Taxedtodeath

Westerville, OH

#15 Jul 2, 2010
Mike stole my thunder already.

Is it not better to have jobs and tax money from sales thrown into the local economy or just have a vacant building sitting there? Hmmm....

Sometimes the cheap crap is all I need.

Is it worse than Big Lots? Really didn't hear any uproar when that went in.

Sometimes if I need something that will last I go somewhere else. Simple. If ya'll don't want to shop at a walmart then don't. When I need it and it's at walmart that's where I go. Having one close will save me time and gas. It'll be better than an empty storefront in my community.
Taxedtodeath

Westerville, OH

#16 Jul 2, 2010
cew900... thanks for the insult.
BIG JOE

Columbus, OH

#17 Jul 2, 2010
Cell Phones Are Trash wrote:
WalMart is a "Big Store for VERY Small Minds". If you measured the IQ of the "average" WalMart shopper and compared that to the average IQ of, say, someone shopping in Barnes and Noble, you'd get the picture real fast. Do we really need to race to the bottom, indulge the LOWEST common denominator and so forth. WalMart is trash, sells trash, attracts trash and is a despicable "American" institution. Use your brain, dummies!!!!!
Well put.Lets not forget about the IQ of most of their employees.The most depressing unpleasent shoppping experience anywhere!
5 Years and Out

Columbus, OH

#18 Jul 2, 2010
If Walmart goes in, the timeline of Westerville's ultimate demise will be much easier to predict. Sure, Reynoldsburg will beat it, but Westerville will be right behind.
Taxedtodeath

Westerville, OH

#19 Jul 2, 2010
...and dumber...errr I mean smarter dad, Have ya been to the walmart at Tuttle Crossing?? Obviously not. Not too many welfare folks there. And *&T^ole, how is addiong tax money to our fine city going bring down the schools??? Vacant buildings bring down property values more than open stores.

Please do keep your uninformed thoughts and your person in UA since you don't live here. Vacant buildings bring down property values too.
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#20 Jul 2, 2010
Dirk wrote:
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They failed in Powell. Hurrah!
You mean Powell failed and now they owe the Rumas millions of dollars!
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#21 Jul 2, 2010
BIG JOE wrote:
<quoted text>Well put.Lets not forget about the IQ of most of their employees.The most depressing unpleasent shoppping experience anywhere!
The IQ of lockstep liberal lemmings would give them a run for their money. You can't have a high IQ if you believe in such stupidities as global warming, carbon taxes and reusable grocery bags.

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