That's Indoctrination!
notlocal

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#139 Dec 7, 2012
tranpsosition wrote:
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I generally don't concern myself about it.
You made a point to direct my attention to it, mewlingly.
If you want her to stop making you look stupid, you need to raise your level of discourse and produce intelligent content.
If you want pity and collective outrage for her making you look stupid, you might be better suited trying to develop a more sympathetic character.
YOu brought yourself into this. I'm not worried about my character, I had great role models, and i sure don't need sympathy. Collective outrage? That's only for so called 'minority groups.' Bug off.

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#140 Dec 7, 2012
notlocal wrote:
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Challenged by the dems. Imagine that.
It would appear that some substantial pieces were actually made up from whole cloth.

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#141 Dec 7, 2012
tranpsosition wrote:
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I generally don't concern myself about it.
You made a point to direct my attention to it, mewlingly.
If you want her to stop making you look stupid, you need to raise your level of discourse and produce intelligent content.
If you want pity and collective outrage for her making you look stupid, you might be better suited trying to develop a more sympathetic character.
Well said. She is indeed a legend in her own mind.
WiseAmerican

Eaton, OH

#142 Dec 7, 2012
notlocal wrote:
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YOu brought yourself into this. I'm not worried about my character, I had great role models, and i sure don't need sympathy. Collective outrage? That's only for so called 'minority groups.' Bug off.
Don't be a typical whiny stiff necked conservative on this forum. That's the problem with your side, you guys are not use to being challeged. When progressives ask you people to get your heads out of Fox Noise propaganda and read alternative information, you immediately call it socialist ideology. You guys are brainwashed! And afraid to be challeged or admit you're wrong.

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Hilliard, OH

#143 Dec 7, 2012
WiseAmerican wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be a typical whiny stiff necked conservative on this forum. That's the problem with your side, you guys are not use to being challeged. When progressives ask you people to get your heads out of Fox Noise propaganda and read alternative information, you immediately call it socialist ideology. You guys are brainwashed! And afraid to be challeged or admit you're wrong.
What a backwards post. Take the media for example...Fox News goes it alone on television versus ABCCBSCNNNBCMSNBC. In print, The Washington Times, The Wall Street Journal and The New York Post go up against over ONE HUNDRED major leftist papers.
The left has brainwashed half the population into hating those who take the risks and create the jobs.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

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Planet Earth

#145 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Funded by whom?
The parents of the child, of course... Unless they choose to educate the child themselves, at home.
So--if you do not advocate this huge change in the structure of education based on some track record of success, what exactly is your thinking?
Every parent is responsible for the children they bring into the world. Not other people's children.

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#146 Dec 7, 2012
WiseAmerican wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be a typical whiny stiff necked conservative on this forum. That's the problem with your side, you guys are not use to being challeged. When progressives ask you people to get your heads out of Fox Noise propaganda and read alternative information, you immediately call it socialist ideology. You guys are brainwashed! And afraid to be challeged or admit you're wrong.
I'm not afraid of anything and I am sure no whiney hiney. I don't need FOX or anyone else to bring me to a conculsion and I freely admit when I am wrong. AS others on here will attest.

I am not wrong about the DNC denying the Charlotte 714 to welcome the delegates or deliver their gift baskets. I am not wrong about there being a 2 day jumah Muslim prayer event in Charlotte, in a park, next the convention center right before the convention. And I am not wrong the God was removed from the dem platform and then 'voted' back in after public disapproval.

Did Obama and his team deny and twist and get others to lie along with them about this to cover up? Damn right he did.

Just like he lied from the start about the attack in Benghazi and had Clinton, Patraeus, Clapper, Rice and every other one of his puppets lie along with him to attempt that cover up. I do not respect any of them, or anyone who blindly swallows this BS, and I surely hope they don't get away with it.

Good Lord, when Obama wrote his college autobiography or whatever it was he had printed on the front cover: "Born in Kenya, raised..... So right there, he's an admitted liar.

You want to see all these politicians and world leaders through rose colored glasses, be my guest. It only tells me you're cut from the same fabric.

And you can bet Morsi was right in there with Obama on the Benghazi cover up.
notlocal - Seriouslady

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#147 Dec 7, 2012
Yeah, Seriouslady was my display name in 2010. Topix admin is working on getting it straightened out as I type.

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#148 Dec 7, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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The parents of the child, of course... Unless they choose to educate the child themselves, at home.
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Every parent is responsible for the children they bring into the world. Not other people's children.
Again--can you point to a single example anywhere in the world of a country or society that has prospered in the absence of public education?

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#149 Dec 7, 2012
Seriouslady wrote:
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I'm not afraid of anything and I am sure no whiney hiney. I don't need FOX or anyone else to bring me to a conculsion and I freely admit when I am wrong. AS others on here will attest.
I am not wrong about the DNC denying the Charlotte 714 to welcome the delegates or deliver their gift baskets. I am not wrong about there being a 2 day jumah Muslim prayer event in Charlotte, in a park, next the convention center right before the convention. And I am not wrong the God was removed from the dem platform and then 'voted' back in after public disapproval.
Did Obama and his team deny and twist and get others to lie along with them about this to cover up? Damn right he did.
Just like he lied from the start about the attack in Benghazi and had Clinton, Patraeus, Clapper, Rice and every other one of his puppets lie along with him to attempt that cover up. I do not respect any of them, or anyone who blindly swallows this BS, and I surely hope they don't get away with it.
Good Lord, when Obama wrote his college autobiography or whatever it was he had printed on the front cover: "Born in Kenya, raised..... So right there, he's an admitted liar.
You want to see all these politicians and world leaders through rose colored glasses, be my guest. It only tells me you're cut from the same fabric.
And you can bet Morsi was right in there with Obama on the Benghazi cover up.
We need an icon for seriously delusional.
notlocal

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#150 Dec 7, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
That’s a Family! is not about tolerance or treating people decently. It is about indoctrination, a fact that its enthusiasts make little attempt to hide.

An active moral approach. I am not at all sure that the government schools are the proper venue for an active moral approach to anything touching fourth-graders and homosexuality. But if children are to have moral instruction in the schools, rather than at home or in the church, then we should probably have a much longer and more detailed conversation than we have thus far about what will be included in that moral curriculum. Is circumspection regarding the situation of a child who identifies four parents consisting of two homosexual couples as his “moms” and “dads” an uncomplicated moral imperative? Hardly. When a child declares,“My two moms are Marilyn and Adrian, and my two dads are Michael and Barry,” that opens up a discussion about which an entire doctoral dissertation in moral theory could be written. Chasnoff and her partisans claim to be driven in part by a desire to prevent bullying, but bullying is precisely what they are engaged in, using the power of the schools to force their political views onto children.
The country hardly needs a state-sanctioned and publicly funded homily on tolerance toward gays (to say nothing of Sino-Germanic couples). This country’s conservative political party fields gay candidates, its annual conservative convention includes a gay-oriented event, and its leading conservative journal benefits from the work of gay contributors. It is also a country in which a great many people believe that traditional family structures play a unique and irreplaceable role in society — and those are the views that It’s a Family! seeks to eliminate. That the gay-rights movement is allowed to co-opt the government schools in its crusade — that it is in fact encouraged to do so — ought to be of concern even to those of us who are broadly in favor of helping gays to go about their business in society much the same as anybody else. If progressives were intellectually honest, they, too, would have some concerns about using the power of government to cultivate particular political opinions in children. But progressives are confident that they will control the educational institutions for the foreseeable future.

There are no cease-fires in the culture wars, because the Left simply will not stop until it has achieved total conformity, which it pursues under the banners of “tolerance” and “diversity,” i.e., a virtue the Left does not possess and a condition the Left will not abide.

The front runs through every corporate human-resources office, every college campus, every church, and the fourth-grade classroom at Penn Valley Elementary School, too.

— Kevin D. Williamson is roving correspondent for National Review.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/334702... #
Bringing this back on topic, in this age of crushing debt, should this be a government expenditure while the defense budget is being cut with the entire middle east teetering? Further, is it a area in which the government should be involved at any level?

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#151 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Again--can you point to a single example anywhere in the world of a country or society that has prospered in the absence of public education?
I have no problem with public education. Just who pays for it. Parents should pay the cost for THEIR child(ren). People who aren't parents should not.

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#152 Dec 8, 2012
Who is who? Seriouslady or notlocal-Seriouslady or notlocal?
notlocal-Serious lady

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#153 Dec 8, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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I have no problem with public education. Just who pays for it. Parents should pay the cost for THEIR child(ren). People who aren't parents should not.
I have no children and no problem with paying school tax along with my real estate tax. Never even thought about it twice. Sure rather have my tax $ going there then some other programs.

For non-property owners, living in apartments, etc., the tax is built into their rent.

Where I have the problem is when schools overstep and take over the parents rights. An excellent example is what George has provided to us beginning this thread. It's wrong and undermines the family.

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#154 Dec 8, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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I have no problem with public education. Just who pays for it. Parents should pay the cost for THEIR child(ren). People who aren't parents should not.
Again, where has this ever worked?

And what are the larger economic implications?

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#155 Dec 8, 2012
notlocal-Seriouslady wrote:
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I have no children and no problem with paying school tax along with my real estate tax.
Good for you. Support what YOU like with YOUR resources. That's what charity is all about.
Never even thought about it twice. Sure rather have my tax $ going there then some other programs.
For non-property owners, living in apartments, etc., the tax is built into their rent.
Yes, all taxes that can be passed along are passed along. That's what most people who support raising taxes on the rich don't get... the rich are expert at passing their costs along, so when you increase their costs, you're increasing yours.... either through higher prices, or through less money due to decreased opportunity. There's a tipping point where either things will get better or get worse, and we're leaning toward the wrong side of that point. If the Repubicans cave (and I think they will, because they're Narcissists, more interested in their personal careers than in doing the job for which they were hired), I'm afraid we're going to go to a very dark place and the effects will be felt for decades.

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Planet Earth

#156 Dec 8, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Again, where has this ever worked?
Where has it been tried?
And what are the larger economic implications?
The economy will self-adjust if left to its own devices. it's the government getting greedy (at both ends of the economy) that creates all problems. No, I'm not suggesting that the government have NO money... But it should be made to live within a fixed percentage.

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#157 Dec 8, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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Good for you. Support what YOU like with YOUR resources. That's what charity is all about.
Difference between charity and responsibility.

We support public education through across the board taxes of various kinds because we understand that education has broad and general social and economic benefits that derive to all--whether parents or not.
Testing Testing

Dublin, OH

#158 Dec 8, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Difference between charity and responsibility.
We support public education through across the board taxes of various kinds because we understand that education has broad and general social and economic benefits that derive to all--whether parents or not.
You might want to talk to those older people living in fixed incomes who are having to move from homes they've lived in for years because they can no longer afford the taxes.

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#159 Dec 8, 2012
Testing Testing wrote:
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You might want to talk to those older people living in fixed incomes who are having to move from homes they've lived in for years because they can no longer afford the taxes.
Excellent reason to move away from the local property tax as a primary source of revenue for school districts.

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