lyons, il politics
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7323 Apr 5, 2013
LMNO wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse me... I just asked "what did P.W. supposedly say"
You were the one taking it off topic with your remarks about why women aren't elected US Presidant etc....
My "panties are not in a bunch" over your comment and I'm real happy for you that your wife is on your side.
LMNO: Pay no attention to this UCP Knucklehead, and his UCP/Forest Park Spin Room Buddies. They are spouting all kinds of B.S. to get everyone focused on their rantings and ravings, and keep the focus off of "Farmer Ken", "Green Jeans Chris", and the UCP Bobbleheads Running for Office!!! Same with highjacking She Backs Moniker to spout all of their B.S.
Election Time is here, and they have NO Record, No Platform, and NO Vision for the Future to Run on!!!! So when you have nothing of substance, baffle the masses with Bullshit!!!! And here we are!!!
They certainly do not want questions being asked about LACK OF VILLAGE BUDGETS, NON-EXISTENT AND MISSING TIF REPORTS AND UPDATES, VILLAGE FINANCES AND PRIVATELY ISSUED DEBT CERTIFICATES!!!!! NO, No, No, we cannot let the voters focus on anything of substance, Gosh No, they might actually vote us out of Office!!!! They might find out about our Grand Plans to PRIVATIZE THE VILLAGE WORKERS, OR OUR PLANS TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND PRIVATIZE SCHOOL RESOURCES, AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH SCHOOL FUNDS AND BONDING CAPACITY!!!! No, No, NO, can't have that!!!
These idiots have so little respect for their Constituents, they even had the Goof from Bridgeview purchase a newspaper and turn it in to their own Ego Booster, and expect us all to believe that this is an Independent Legitimate News Paper!!!!!
These Dummies have cancelled any and all Village Meetings, Finance and Board, until after the Election, WHY?????? Makes you have to think, and wonder, WHAT IN THE WORLD, IS UCP, "FARMER KEN", and "GREEN JEANS CHRIS", HIDING FROM US THE VILLAGE OF LYONS RESIDENTS?????
Mario Joseph Moreno, the Consultant and Relationship Builder, hired by "Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris", hired to "Build Relationships" with our own Cook County Board, at an "EXTREMELY MODEST" MONTHLY FEE OF $750.00, paid for by us, the Village of Lyons Residents, also seems to be hiding!!!!!!
"Farmer Ken", "Green Jeans Chris", this may just turn out to be the best $750.00 per month, we the Village of Lyons Residents ever had to pay!!!!!!
Mario, We hope and Pray you LISTENED WELL!!!!! BUILD THOSE NEW RELATIONSHIPS MARIO!!! DO TELL, DO TELL!!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Chicago, IL

#7324 Apr 5, 2013
Francine wrote:
UCP...all the way !!!!
Francine: I see we have the UCP Cheerleading Outfit on display!!!!

Francine, you seem to be in the know. Any word on Village of Lyons Budgets???? Can you get us any information on the Missing TIF Reports????? What about those Privately Issued Deb Certificates, can you check and see who is holding the paper on these, and exactly what WE, the Village of Lyons Residents, are on the HOOK FOR???????
Francine: Can you tell us why "Farmer Ken", and "Green Jeans Chris", disbanded Neighborhood Watch, and Contracted it out????
Francine, can you justify the $2000.00 per month we are paying for the Public Relations Specialist, for our Dear Leader??????
Francine, Can you rell us why we needed a CONSULTANT, to BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, with our own Cook County Board, when we have a Cook County Commisioner living and breathing right next door in McCook??????
Francine, Can you tell us all why we had to Pay $750.00 per month for this Consultant, Mario Joseph Moreno???????
Francine: did you know, it is alleged, that Dear Leader has spent some quality boating time with ole Mario?????
Francine: Can you tell us why the Finance and Board Meetings have been cancelled until after the Elections, yet "Green Jeans Chris" felt it was his duty to hold "The Getty Event" prior to the Election, even though he was not required too???????

No Francine, you cannot tell us any of these things. You cannot answer or justify an questions or concerns, on pertinent issues of the day, facing us the Village of Lyons!!!

Look at the PICTURE FRANCINE, EVERYBODY, LET'S ALL LOOK AT THE PICTURE WITH FRANCINE!!!!

ARE WE ALL FEELING GOOD YET?????
Francine

Forest Park, IL

#7325 Apr 5, 2013
Feeling real good, thanks for asking !

lyons

United States

#7326 Apr 5, 2013
Views from the high stool you are awesome! Please keep serving up the truth to these shmucks as they cant handle the truth! They play gutter politics and love to distract from the real issues. They also love harassing and bullying the residents. So much for an open government and working for the people! Their party is a joke and in shambles which is why Getty and his sidekick Kyle have been out walking! This April 9th vote straight VIP for a breath of fresh air!!!
albert

Forest Park, IL

#7327 Apr 5, 2013
Quote: "Insanity is saying the same thing over and over again but expecting different results."
Just Me

Lyons, IL

#7328 Apr 5, 2013
albert wrote:
Quote: "Insanity is saying the same thing over and over again but expecting different results."
Results will be the same UCP all the way
Resident

Chicago, IL

#7329 Apr 5, 2013
If that happens I'll shoot myself!
Resident

Lisle, IL

#7330 Apr 5, 2013
No I'll just move.
ALLSTARS

Hillside, IL

#7331 Apr 5, 2013
Did anybody Notice the V.I.P. Sign in front of ALLSTARS??
To All UCP Supporters

Hillside, IL

#7332 Apr 5, 2013
After another successful night at Getty's fund raiser and dinner party last night at Zupa's.. I have come to the realization how close residents and businesses are brought together through the UCP party. I assure we have nothing to worry about. Let's stop wasting our time on here going back and forth with the VIP supporters. They are very hard headed and narrow minded. You will not be able to convince them to vote UCP. There was a great turn out last night with people of all ages from early 20's to people even 80 years old! I seen a lot of strong business owners at the party who are convinced their patrons or clients in Lyons fully support Getty and UCP. There was at least 300 different faces that came by through the night. It was a great time! There is a lot of support and hope for UCP. We are just wasting our time on here. Let the half dozen VIP members and or supporters go back and forth with their dreams of winning and there epic fails of trying to discredit Chris and UCP time after time again. VIP is not winning. I never received one invitation from them to go to any kind of formal address or support meeting. They have nothing to present. They are all hiding inside there litte houses and hoping to convince the few people on here to vote for them. People know the truth. Everything on here is just a game. Let VIP play their little games while the UCP Supporters do what needs to be done. The big game begins April 9th, GET OUT AND VOTE GETTY AND UCP STRAIGHT! WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS!!!
Liz Swann

Chicago, IL

#7333 Apr 5, 2013
Another Stool wrote:
<quoted text>
Same old ramblings even though you are back from your jaunt to Buffalo Grove. Where do you get your information? The 2012 budget shows that all of the fund debt and past due bills were repaid. It shows that another $1 million in principal and interest. Did you ever add up the debt oustanding. Doubt it. Using the amount from the County after Visk ran up debt to $30 million.
The $3 million in 2009 bonds were to pay bills the Village had already spent. And in 2010, all but $2 million were to refinance Village debt. The $2 million was to fund the contracts that were incurred WITHOUT FUNDING.
Good news is that neither UCP or VIP will listen to you. A non issue, not even worth this response.
Not my jaunt to either BG or Berwyn...I Always post from United States! Someone wanted She Back off...funny that, if no one listens to me.

Budgets don't show that bills were paid...they show what amounts are allocated to be spent in what areas. The actual VOL 2012 audit uses the term "recommended budget". As in not writ in stone.

And as far as the "actual" figures for previous years...which set for 2011 is real? 2010? Since the audited AFS wasn't completed until end of January, 2013, and that budget was passed 6 weeks before...and had to be prepared before that. Plus, if one looks at the audit findings, it is obvious that the books for 2010 weren't closed until sometime in 2012. 2009 figures...which set is being used abnd is it correct.(Oh, the uncertainty!)

As far as adding up the debt - sure, what was publicly available, p&i year by year last July. But since our very own Finance Wiz finally produced the 2010 AFS, it's so MUCH easier to just use the figures HE posted on page 49 of the document (pdf page 58), which for 2012 totalled $2,361,369 ($1,291,591 Principal +$1,060,778 Interest). Where did you find YOUR figure.

Visk was Mayor from April 2005 - April 2009. Debt issued during those years did not total $30M. The Official Disclosure Statements for the 2009 debt does NOT state that it was issued "to pay bills the Village had already spent", money was also supposed to be used to compete a park, public health and recreation facilities, and oh yes, purchase a fire truck! As to the 2010 debt certifcates, only $4.7 -$4.9 M was used to refinance existing debt; the remainder was NEW debt, according to the 2010 AFS Management D & A written by our FW. And since we the taxpayers have NEVER been shown one little contract (so we could see, for example, WHEN they were entered into and by WHOM), that's just heresay until proof surfaces. Until then...My, my, my: don't tell lies!

BTW, what kind of stool are you? That's okay: I don't want to know and I'm certain no one cares about your foolish attacks.
Francine

Forest Park, IL

#7334 Apr 5, 2013
To All UCP Supporters wrote:
After another successful night at Getty's fund raiser and dinner party last night at Zupa's.. I have come to the realization how close residents and businesses are brought together through the UCP party. I assure we have nothing to worry about. Let's stop wasting our time on here going back and forth with the VIP supporters. They are very hard headed and narrow minded. You will not be able to convince them to vote UCP. There was a great turn out last night with people of all ages from early 20's to people even 80 years old! I seen a lot of strong business owners at the party who are convinced their patrons or clients in Lyons fully support Getty and UCP. There was at least 300 different faces that came by through the night. It was a great time! There is a lot of support and hope for UCP. We are just wasting our time on here. Let the half dozen VIP members and or supporters go back and forth with their dreams of winning and there epic fails of trying to discredit Chris and UCP time after time again. VIP is not winning. I never received one invitation from them to go to any kind of formal address or support meeting. They have nothing to present. They are all hiding inside there litte houses and hoping to convince the few people on here to vote for them. People know the truth. Everything on here is just a game. Let VIP play their little games while the UCP Supporters do what needs to be done. The big game begins April 9th, GET OUT AND VOTE GETTY AND UCP STRAIGHT! WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS!!!
You are so right ! A good time was had by all. So nice to see so
much support for the UCP. It was good to see people come together.

Vote UCP...All the Way !!

new to Lyons

United States

#7335 Apr 5, 2013
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To All UCP Supporters wrote:
After another successful night at Getty's fund raiser and dinner party last night at Zupa's.. I have come to the realization how close residents and businesses are brought together through the UCP party. I assure we have nothing to worry about. Let's stop wasting our time on here going back and forth with the VIP supporters. They are very hard headed and narrow minded. You will not be able to convince them to vote UCP. There was a great turn out last night with people of all ages from early 20's to people even 80 years old! I seen a lot of strong business owners at the party who are convinced their patrons or clients in Lyons fully support Getty and UCP. There was at least 300 different faces that came by through the night. It was a great time! There is a lot of support and hope for UCP. We are just wasting our time on here. Let the half dozen VIP members and or supporters go back and forth with their dreams of winning and there epic fails of trying to discredit Chris and UCP time after time again. VIP is not winning. I never received one invitation from them to go to any kind of formal address or support meeting. They have nothing to present. They are all hiding inside there litte houses and hoping to convince the few people on here to vote for them. People know the truth. Everything on here is just a game. Let VIP play their little games while the UCP Supporters do what needs to be done. The big game begins April 9th, GET OUT AND VOTE GETTY AND UCP STRAIGHT! WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS!!!
new to Lyons

United States

#7336 Apr 5, 2013
Was at the party last night. Chris is a good mayor. 4 more years.
To All UCP Supporters wrote:
After another successful night at Getty's fund raiser and dinner party last night at Zupa's.. I have come to the realization how close residents and businesses are brought together through the UCP party. I assure we have nothing to worry about. Let's stop wasting our time on here going back and forth with the VIP supporters. They are very hard headed and narrow minded. You will not be able to convince them to vote UCP. There was a great turn out last night with people of all ages from early 20's to people even 80 years old! I seen a lot of strong business owners at the party who are convinced their patrons or clients in Lyons fully support Getty and UCP. There was at least 300 different faces that came by through the night. It was a great time! There is a lot of support and hope for UCP. We are just wasting our time on here. Let the half dozen VIP members and or supporters go back and forth with their dreams of winning and there epic fails of trying to discredit Chris and UCP time after time again. VIP is not winning. I never received one invitation from them to go to any kind of formal address or support meeting. They have nothing to present. They are all hiding inside there litte houses and hoping to convince the few people on here to vote for them. People know the truth. Everything on here is just a game. Let VIP play their little games while the UCP Supporters do what needs to be done. The big game begins April 9th, GET OUT AND VOTE GETTY AND UCP STRAIGHT! WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS!!!
Francine

Forest Park, IL

#7337 Apr 5, 2013
wait a few minutes and She Back Liz will run interference on the positive comments for UCP.

... whenever anyone says something
good about UCP..she is right there with a negative statement.
VANDALIZED

Hillside, IL

#7338 Apr 5, 2013
So I am starting to see more and more UCP Signs Vandalized. Same thing happened to TLC signs in 2009. Bashed with bats and spray painted on. Do you VIP and VIP Supporters really have that short of a fuse? Do you actually condone on such a violent message to our community? Is this actual adult behavior or were your kids up to this? It's a low move. I found one of my signs ripped out the lawn, a Miller Lite beer bottle next to it, and my big sign had an "x" spray painted on it! Of course, this afternoon they have been replaced all my signs and I turned the bottle over to the police to have them finger print it... wonder who's name is going to pop up!
Another Stool

Willow Springs, IL

#7339 Apr 5, 2013
Liz Swann wrote:
<quoted text>
As far as adding up the debt - sure, what was publicly available, p&i year by year last July. But since our very own Finance Wiz finally produced the 2010 AFS, it's so MUCH easier to just use the figures HE posted on page 49 of the document (pdf page 58), which for 2012 totalled $2,361,369 ($1,291,591 Principal +$1,060,778 Interest). Where did you find YOUR figure.
Wow, those are very good numbers. On page 49/58, it shows that the total debt at the end of 2010 was $27,821,539. Assuming the Village paid its debts (PRINCIPAL, OF COURSE) as listed in 2011 and 2012 ($1,554,357 for 2011 and $1,291,591 for 2012), then the debt at the end of 2012 was $24,975,594!!! THE BUSINESSMEN WERE CORRECT AND YOU ARE WRONG ($43 MILLION!!!)!!!!
<quoted text>Visk was Mayor from April 2005 - April 2009. Debt issued during those years did not total $30M. The Official Disclosure Statements for the 2009 debt does NOT state that it was issued "to pay bills the Village had already spent", money was also supposed to be used to compete a park, public health and recreation facilities, and oh yes, purchase a fire truck!
That is what they said, but not what they did. The $3 million in 2009 debt paid bills on the Village Hall and even that was not enough. Look at the audits.
Also, in the 2010 audit (page 3), it states that $4,926,390 was used for refinancing actual debt and $2,250,000 was to pay bills that the Village did not have money for. And the balance was for the park since they did not use the money in 2009 for that purpose.
Thanks for the direction--you have shown what a great job Chris has done in just 4 years.
WE AE CHANGE

Hillside, IL

#7340 Apr 5, 2013
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Views From the High Stool

Oak Park, IL

#7341 Apr 5, 2013
Views From the High Stool wrote:
<quoted text>
Francine: I see we have the UCP Cheerleading Outfit on display!!!!
Francine, you seem to be in the know. Any word on Village of Lyons Budgets???? Can you get us any information on the Missing TIF Reports????? What about those Privately Issued Deb Certificates, can you check and see who is holding the paper on these, and exactly what WE, the Village of Lyons Residents, are on the HOOK FOR???????
Francine: Can you tell us why "Farmer Ken", and "Green Jeans Chris", disbanded Neighborhood Watch, and Contracted it out????
Francine, can you justify the $2000.00 per month we are paying for the Public Relations Specialist, for our Dear Leader??????
Francine, Can you rell us why we needed a CONSULTANT, to BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, with our own Cook County Board, when we have a Cook County Commisioner living and breathing right next door in McCook??????
Francine, Can you tell us all why we had to Pay $750.00 per month for this Consultant, Mario Joseph Moreno???????
Francine: did you know, it is alleged, that Dear Leader has spent some quality boating time with ole Mario?????
Francine: Can you tell us why the Finance and Board Meetings have been cancelled until after the Elections, yet "Green Jeans Chris" felt it was his duty to hold "The Getty Event" prior to the Election, even though he was not required too???????
No Francine, you cannot tell us any of these things. You cannot answer or justify an questions or concerns, on pertinent issues of the day, facing us the Village of Lyons!!!
Look at the PICTURE FRANCINE, EVERYBODY, LET'S ALL LOOK AT THE PICTURE WITH FRANCINE!!!!
ARE WE ALL FEELING GOOD YET?????
Francine: Here it is so you can Read it Once More!!!!
Views From the High Stool

Oak Park, IL

#7342 Apr 5, 2013
Francine wrote:
Feeling real good, thanks for asking !
Francine: I am thrilled that you are feeling good!!
Since you are feeling good and all seems to be coming up roses, having attended the UCP Schmooze Fest Last Night!!!(By the way, did "Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris", pull and pay for Permits for Last Nights, Schmooze Fest???)
Francine, I have noticed that you did not address, or even attempt to address one question in the above post!!!!

That seems to be the UCP Way!!!! Do not address Budgets, TIF Reports, State of Village Finances, Privately Issued Debt Certificates, who holds the Paper on these Privately Issued Debt Certificates, and How Much are we, the Village of Lyons Residents, on the HOOK For????

"Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris", are too busy to hold the regular Village Finance and Board Meetings, these will must postpone until after the Election!!!(SSHHHH, someone may ask us hard questions!!!!) Yes, Village of Lyons Residents, this is how GULLIBLE, NAIVE, AND BRAIN DEAD, "Farmer Ken" and "Green Jeans Chris" believe we are!!! The Village is broke, the Titanic is Sinking, and they head for ZUPA's and tell the Band to Play!!!

Look at the Picture Francine!!!! Dance your to the Music Francine!!!! The Hangover is coming, you are PAYING FOR IT!!! mIGHT AS WELL GET YOPUR MONIES WORTH!!!!

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