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Forest Park, IL

#7077 Mar 28, 2013
Q: Why was the Easter Bunny arrested?
A: He was charged with Hare-assment!

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Forest Park, IL

#7078 Mar 28, 2013
Q: What do you call a line of rabbits walking backwards?
A: A receding “hareline”.
She back

United States

#7079 Mar 28, 2013
Any truth to the rumor that Kyle's been telling residents with VIP signs up in their yards that if UCP is re-elected they intend to throw Harley under the bus and replace him?

And I remember who introduced Kyle and our administrator to the Village Board: Ringmaster Getty himself! The Trustees, regardless of party affiliation, publicly had nothing to do with those selections except to bobble their heads in agreement.
THE VIP DECEPTION

Forest Park, IL

#7080 Mar 28, 2013
Views From the High Stool wrote:
<quoted text>Just a Worker.
Finally we have a UCP Knucklehead speaking the truth!!! It was not a State of the Village Speech, it was a "GETTY EVENT"!!!!
Another Nugget from The Goldenrod - March 2013!!!
* Chris Getty approved FREE health insurance for all of the current trustees and created a $36,000 dollar salary for the village clerk.(Most Villages do not do this. Do you get FREE health insurance?)
Hey EVERYONE!!!! Did you see the PICTURE!!!!! ARE WE ALL "FEELING GOOD" YET??????????
LIES, LIES, and More LIES! First off, I got that little VIP flyer yesterday after getting home from work. I waited a day before posting because I wanted to see the reaction on this forum. Wow, you people are gullible or really stupid. How come it is that, you VIP Supporters believe every little thing thrown at Chris and the UCP? Don't you realize VIP is using the same political terror that MVP used? Trying to scare you citizens in voting for them? They have a low class poor approach.

Error number one, On the very top of the list, they claim UCP voted to give the village officials a yearly pay raise. How stupid are you idiots that support VIP to not realize Patty and Patty are on the board and voted for the same thing! Then they say the VIP believes the salaries are proper without any pay raise. But, in the savings to Tax Payer it is BLANK! They don't plan on lowering the salaries at all. Instead, just deceiving the citizens so if they get in office they can keep the salaries where they are at, then probably actually give themselves a yearly raise and they will just try to blame it on Getty and the UCP.

Second Error. Number 2 on the list. They claim UCP voted to give the village officials health benefits. AGAIN, PATTY AND PATTY VOTED FOR EVERYTHING RIGHT ALONG WITH WHAT CHRIS AND THE UCP VOTED! EVERYTHING "VIP" CLAIMS THAT "UCP" VOTED FOR PATTY VOTED FOR TOO! Back to where I was going, as a government employee it is MANDATORY to HAVE HEALTH BENIFITS! It is now mandatory that every citizens themselves have health insurance. President OBAMA passed the law last year requiring this! IT'S CALLED OBAMA CARE YOU IDIOTS! LOOK IT UP, IT's MANDATORY!!

The List of ERRORS, LIES, and DECEPTION goes on and on! I have to go to work. But, will be back later to get into more. One last thing to get off my chest before I head out the door.. the VILLAGE of LYONS is NOT $42,000,000.00 in debt! We are only $25,000,000.00 in Debt! Getty was able to pay off $5,000,000.00 through his term with out the tax payers dollars! The TAXES actually are a lot lower than what they were 4 years ago! The taxes are lower mainly because the housing market dropped across the United States. But, again your taxes are lower than they were 4 years ago and have only been going down every year with Getty and the UCP!
Rakii

Forest Park, IL

#7081 Mar 28, 2013
She back wrote:
Any truth to the rumor that Kyle's been telling residents with VIP signs up in their yards that if UCP is re-elected they intend to throw Harley under the bus and replace him?
And I remember who introduced Kyle and our administrator to the Village Board: Ringmaster Getty himself! The Trustees, regardless of party affiliation, publicly had nothing to do with those selections except to bobble their heads in agreement.

If you didnt see it with your own eyes or hear it with your own ears, don't invent it with your small mind & share it with your big mouth.
ConcernedCostell oMom

Chicago, IL

#7082 Mar 28, 2013
If there are any Home Room Moms or Parents that I have not talked to about calling other parents during Easter Break. Email me your information, child's name and grade: SaveOur103Kids@aol.com
Thank You for Your Support!-Mary
She back

United States

#7083 Mar 28, 2013
Okay Deception, substantiate your $25M figure for VOL debt with your source material.

Because using numbers provided by VOL on pages 58 & 63 of the 2010 Audit (easy to check since it is posted on the VOL website), here is how it breaks down:

Total Principle & Interest payments due from 2013 until debt retired in 2028 (P&I for FYs 2011 & 2012 have been substracted)=$34,088,702

Unfunded Actuarial Liabilities Police & Firefighter Pension Funds (which is debt owed)=$9,688,842

Total money that must be paid back, otherwise known as indebtedness =$43,777,544

Any questions???
Be Honest

La Grange Park, IL

#7084 Mar 28, 2013
She back wrote:
Okay Deception, substantiate your $25M figure for VOL debt with your source material.
Because using numbers provided by VOL on pages 58 & 63 of the 2010 Audit (easy to check since it is posted on the VOL website), here is how it breaks down:
Total Principle & Interest payments due from 2013 until debt retired in 2028 (P&I for FYs 2011 & 2012 have been substracted)=$34,088,702
Unfunded Actuarial Liabilities Police & Firefighter Pension Funds (which is debt owed)=$9,688,842
Total money that must be paid back, otherwise known as indebtedness =$43,777,544
Any questions???
Yes, when did future interest become a current debt? And while Maria Pappas calls "Unfunded Pension Liabilities" as "debt", the accounting world does not agree with her.

To be precise, the Village's actual debt (bonds, installment contracts, and loans) at the end of 2010 are as follows (using page numbers at the bottom of the audit, have no clue where "She Back" got her amounts):

Tax supported debt (page 46)$12,973,416
TIF Debt (page 47) 13,887,686
Business Debt (page 48) 960,437
Line of credit (page 43) 500,000
Fund deficit (page 36) 264,685
Total debt $28,586,224

These amounts are $1.7 million lower that 2009 after the borrowing spree by Chris's predecessors increased dobt to over $30 million. Chris said that this amount has been paid down to $25 million at the end of 2012. This seems consistent with the budget.

And weren't you on the pension board when the liabilities skyrocketed?

But as Chris said at the State of the City, he could blame others for this mess. Instead, he is paying down debt and strengthening the finances. He has taken action; you hide behind She Back.
Butterfly

Dubuque, IA

#7085 Mar 28, 2013
THE VIP DECEPTION wrote:
<quoted text>
LIES, LIES, and More LIES! First off, I got that little VIP flyer yesterday after getting home from work. I waited a day before posting because I wanted to see the reaction on this forum. Wow, you people are gullible or really stupid. How come it is that, you VIP Supporters believe every little thing thrown at Chris and the UCP? Don't you realize VIP is using the same political terror that MVP used? Trying to scare you citizens in voting for them? They have a low class poor approach.
Error number one, On the very top of the list, they claim UCP voted to give the village officials a yearly pay raise. How stupid are you idiots that support VIP to not realize Patty and Patty are on the board and voted for the same thing! Then they say the VIP believes the salaries are proper without any pay raise. But, in the savings to Tax Payer it is BLANK! They don't plan on lowering the salaries at all. Instead, just deceiving the citizens so if they get in office they can keep the salaries where they are at, then probably actually give themselves a yearly raise and they will just try to blame it on Getty and the UCP.
Second Error. Number 2 on the list. They claim UCP voted to give the village officials health benefits. AGAIN, PATTY AND PATTY VOTED FOR EVERYTHING RIGHT ALONG WITH WHAT CHRIS AND THE UCP VOTED! EVERYTHING "VIP" CLAIMS THAT "UCP" VOTED FOR PATTY VOTED FOR TOO! Back to where I was going, as a government employee it is MANDATORY to HAVE HEALTH BENIFITS! It is now mandatory that every citizens themselves have health insurance. President OBAMA passed the law last year requiring this! IT'S CALLED OBAMA CARE YOU IDIOTS! LOOK IT UP, IT's MANDATORY!!
The List of ERRORS, LIES, and DECEPTION goes on and on! I have to go to work. But, will be back later to get into more. One last thing to get off my chest before I head out the door.. the VILLAGE of LYONS is NOT $42,000,000.00 in debt! We are only $25,000,000.00 in Debt! Getty was able to pay off $5,000,000.00 through his term with out the tax payers dollars! The TAXES actually are a lot lower than what they were 4 years ago! The taxes are lower mainly because the housing market dropped across the United States. But, again your taxes are lower than they were 4 years ago and have only been going down every year with Getty and the UCP!
Bulls--t are tax bill has increased by four thousand in the past five years. We were going to buy another apt building here in lyons but we didn't because the property taxes are to high.
Francine

Forest Park, IL

#7086 Mar 28, 2013
Butterfly wrote:
<quoted text>Bulls--t are tax bill has increased by four thousand in the past five years. We were going to buy another apt building here in lyons but we didn't because the property taxes are to high.
The very exact thing happened to us back in 1978...so what
seems to be the problem? Yes, 1978...before the Mayor was a twinkle
in in parents eyes.

Now we can't possibly blame him, can we ?
SORRY

Forest Park, IL

#7087 Mar 28, 2013
LPH wrote:
<quoted text>
Umm.. I'm not part of any political system or one of the village officials... I'm just concerned citizen who was also screaming for change in the video! I think your trying to pull off some reverse psychology on people here by flip flopping "saying you were all for UCP but, now your completely against them and support VIP". Look, there is no way you ever were for UCP, because no matter what VIP is not the way to go. The VIP Party is made up of Liars, Malicious Attackers, Smokers, Drinkers, and Federal Fraud Artists that are Related to Child Sex Abusers. The party is made up of all "Puppets" who will be taking orders from someone behind the scenes. You are being deceived. Your being brainwashed. Your being nieve and ignorant to the facts. There is no hope for the Village of Lyons with those vampires in office. Our village funds will land so far in debt this village will turn into a place worse than Cicero. Schools will have to close, more police officers will be fired, Business will pack up shop and leave in a heartbeat, Crime Will go up, graffiti and gangs will be everywhere, sidewalks, streets, and trees will go unkept, there will be no events for the children, and that will just begin the economical downward spiral and collapse of the village. At least UCP did what they needed tt and the Village is moving forward. The $30 million dollar debt is now less than $25 Million. In another term with UCP we will be under $20 Million and things are being accomplished! Everybody has work. The Village of Lyons is starting to bloom and grow. Why kill it by putting some new people in place? There's nothing they have to offer.
Where in the heck did this diatribe come from? I've read lots on this blog but this really takes the cake. Leave them in or else Lyons turns into Cicero? It is like Cicero with the thieves filtering our money out with an open spigot. We're in an economical downward spiral and you don't know it,$42,000,000 debt in Lyons!!!! God help us taxpayers with this group in making things worse, not to mention the $300,000 borrowed out of our water bill money and used to pay village bills. Bloom and grow? Where? First and Ogden is as vacant today as it was three years ago, thank goodness they didn't put another bank there at least. Ogden still has vacant businesses and the minimalls all have vacancies. A change to honest administration that can produce a budget every year would be refreshing!!! You mention the schools......maybe we should get one of the 8th graders to go over to Village Hall and show them how to make a budget, it doesn't take a rocket scientist, you and I do it every month.
SORRY

Forest Park, IL

#7088 Mar 28, 2013
LMNO wrote:
Why is there a Getty Election sign (a big one) on the corner of 26th and Des Plaines in NORTH RIVERSIDE?
Is he running in that town, too????
I wondered the same thing about his signs on East Avenue between Ogden & Pershing in Berwyn.
WOW

Forest Park, IL

#7089 Mar 28, 2013
Watching wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you kidding me? I say that this women feels scared already and you want her name and address to be posted on a public blog. You want to go back to her house and scare her some more. You people are so wrong for this town.
You must be talking about the UCP, sorry, I thought you meant us. The last thing we do is bully anyone, we're to busy trying to avoid being bullied by the UCP ourselves!!
She Back

United States

#7090 Mar 28, 2013
Be Honest wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, when did future interest become a current debt? And while Maria Pappas calls "Unfunded Pension Liabilities" as "debt", the accounting world does not agree with her.
To be precise, the Village's actual debt (bonds, installment contracts, and loans) at the end of 2010 are as follows (using page numbers at the bottom of the audit, have no clue where "She Back" got her amounts):
Tax supported debt (page 46)$12,973,416
TIF Debt (page 47) 13,887,686
Business Debt (page 48) 960,437
Line of credit (page 43) 500,000
Fund deficit (page 36) 264,685
Total debt $28,586,224
These amounts are $1.7 million lower that 2009 after the borrowing spree by Chris's predecessors increased dobt to over $30 million. Chris said that this amount has been paid down to $25 million at the end of 2012. This seems consistent with the budget.
And weren't you on the pension board when the liabilities skyrocketed?
But as Chris said at the State of the City, he could blame others for this mess. Instead, he is paying down debt and strengthening the finances. He has taken action; you hide behind She Back.
You are leaving out both the interest on that debt AND the UAL for the police & fire fighters pensions: does your boy intend stiffing our public safety officers on their retirements and investors of their interest (a default on interest is the same as one on a principal payment as far as investors and the financial and regulatory agencies go).

To give you some idea of the impact of those interest payments, here's the total projected payment for FY 2013 (pdf page 58):$1,388,262 (principal)+$1,291,657(interes t)=$2,679,919

"Required payment" calculated by Illinois Dept. of Insurance for just the police pension fund in 2010 (It's only gone up since unless we made the required payments each year, didn't add participants and salary increases, and the funds investments earned at least 7%):$805,640
Actual Payment Made:$201,169

Amount "deferred" to future:$604,471

Yeah, that's real fiscal responsibility. And oh, BTW, those who were around back in the 2000's when I was a Police Pension Fund Trustee will remember that I was there, each and every Village Board Meeting, informing the Board of the state of the fund and begging them to start making the required payments. ALONE. And until I opened my mouth, the Village President and Trustees didn't have a clue about what was happening...kinda like now.
URCONFUSED

Forest Park, IL

#7091 Mar 28, 2013
THE VIP DECEPTION wrote:
<quoted text>
LIES, LIES, and More LIES! First off, I got that little VIP flyer yesterday after getting home from work. I waited a day before posting because I wanted to see the reaction on this forum. Wow, you people are gullible or really stupid. How come it is that, you VIP Supporters believe every little thing thrown at Chris and the UCP? Don't you realize VIP is using the same political terror that MVP used? Trying to scare you citizens in voting for them? They have a low class poor approach.
Error number one, On the very top of the list, they claim UCP voted to give the village officials a yearly pay raise. How stupid are you idiots that support VIP to not realize Patty and Patty are on the board and voted for the same thing! Then they say the VIP believes the salaries are proper without any pay raise. But, in the savings to Tax Payer it is BLANK! They don't plan on lowering the salaries at all. Instead, just deceiving the citizens so if they get in office they can keep the salaries where they are at, then probably actually give themselves a yearly raise and they will just try to blame it on Getty and the UCP.
Second Error. Number 2 on the list. They claim UCP voted to give the village officials health benefits. AGAIN, PATTY AND PATTY VOTED FOR EVERYTHING RIGHT ALONG WITH WHAT CHRIS AND THE UCP VOTED! EVERYTHING "VIP" CLAIMS THAT "UCP" VOTED FOR PATTY VOTED FOR TOO! Back to where I was going, as a government employee it is MANDATORY to HAVE HEALTH BENIFITS! It is now mandatory that every citizens themselves have health insurance. President OBAMA passed the law last year requiring this! IT'S CALLED OBAMA CARE YOU IDIOTS! LOOK IT UP, IT's MANDATORY!!
The List of ERRORS, LIES, and DECEPTION goes on and on! I have to go to work. But, will be back later to get into more. One last thing to get off my chest before I head out the door.. the VILLAGE of LYONS is NOT $42,000,000.00 in debt! We are only $25,000,000.00 in Debt! Getty was able to pay off $5,000,000.00 through his term with out the tax payers dollars! The TAXES actually are a lot lower than what they were 4 years ago! The taxes are lower mainly because the housing market dropped across the United States. But, again your taxes are lower than they were 4 years ago and have only been going down every year with Getty and the UCP!
Please, don't leave the house even if it is to go to work, you'll be arrested for drunk driving because you're either drunk, high, or retarded to make the above statements, especially the one about taxes. I just paid my taxes a month ago and let me tell you, the market value of my house went down on the bill but the taxes are up. I need some of what you're smoking so I can look through the same rose colored glasses you do.
WTH

Hillside, IL

#7092 Mar 28, 2013
Did anyone attend the hearing on the asphalt plant in McCook? Anything decided?
THE VIP DECEPTION

Forest Park, IL

#7093 Mar 28, 2013
3 More Errors to clear up with VIP's Newest Flyer:

1)Getty did not pay a "friend" $10,000 to cut the lawns of abandoned homes. He did pay someone that has been a long time village resident to cut the grass, but he sent an invoice to the banks that owned the properties. The reason you need to keep the properties maintained and well kept is that t deters and prevents potential vandalism and break-ins which keeps the community a safer place. Along with that, do you idiots with VIP really think teens are responsible enough to cut grass and offer lawn maintenance services? A couple things wrong with that.. number one where is the insurance and who is liable if a kid cuts their finger or hand off? I see a $1,000,000 lawsuit against the village if that happens! Who will insure the "teens"? Also, how about transportation? Too much liability issues for the village to have "teens" using sharp and dangerous lawn care tools.

2) Again, he didn't pay a "friend" to power wash and remove graffiti in 2012. He did hire a village resident with the right experience, tools, and knowledge to do it only because it was the fastest and most practical way to get the graffiti removed. When you use "Cook County Program" you go on a waiting list! The graffiti could remain for months!! Ever drive through Berwyn, Cicero, or even Chicago? He is doing a great job getting rid of graffiti the minute it is detected or reported. Drive around town and see if you can even find any graffiti! Guaranteed that you can't!

3)Yes, he hired a tree trimming service that took care of the whole village! Including a dead tree in my own back yard! Did I have to pay for the service? Of course, through tax dollar, but not too much. You don't need to trim tree's every year people. It's every once in a while. They cleaned the whole village of dead tree's and debris though. Something that hasn't been done in over 10 years! You don't need a laid off arborist to work full time when there is nothing to do anymore. The job has been done and you won't need anyone cutting trees for a long while!

Don't be fooled by the VIP DECEPTION people!

There are so many flaws in every thing they try to point out! If they get in office, you will hear nothing but excuses of why they can't keep there promises. There are many legal flaws in what they present. And let's not forget Graunke's son is a REPEAT Sex Offender living right next to the park!
Patty W has Patty K up her butt! Gatz has a history in the VOL spending outrageous money! George Mendlik's brother in Texas is a sex offender and can be found at the link below ( http://stopyouchildmolester.blogspot.com/2012... )

VIP IS CORRUPT AND DECIEVING YOU TO WIN YOUR VOTE!
URCONFUSED

Forest Park, IL

#7094 Mar 28, 2013
Be Honest wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, when did future interest become a current debt? And while Maria Pappas calls "Unfunded Pension Liabilities" as "debt", the accounting world does not agree with her.
To be precise, the Village's actual debt (bonds, installment contracts, and loans) at the end of 2010 are as follows (using page numbers at the bottom of the audit, have no clue where "She Back" got her amounts):
Tax supported debt (page 46)$12,973,416
TIF Debt (page 47) 13,887,686
Business Debt (page 48) 960,437
Line of credit (page 43) 500,000
Fund deficit (page 36) 264,685
Total debt $28,586,224
These amounts are $1.7 million lower that 2009 after the borrowing spree by Chris's predecessors increased dobt to over $30 million. Chris said that this amount has been paid down to $25 million at the end of 2012. This seems consistent with the budget.
And weren't you on the pension board when the liabilities skyrocketed?
But as Chris said at the State of the City, he could blame others for this mess. Instead, he is paying down debt and strengthening the finances. He has taken action; you hide behind She Back.
Oh, I am sorry, Chris said it! Well, if Chris said it, dang, it must be true because neither he nor his dad would ever tell a lie!!!! Oh, oh, Pinoccio!!!
THE VIP DECEPTION

Forest Park, IL

#7095 Mar 28, 2013
The tree trimming servce fee er resident breaks down like this:

$157,000 divided by 10,000 =$15.70

$15.70 divided by 4 years (1,460 days)= 0.0107534

Your only paying $0.0107534 of a penny a day!

Or a total of $3 a year for the tree trimming service!!

You see, VIP is deceiving you by tricking you into believing these numbers are really high and outrageous when they amount to basically a few bucks!!
URCONFUSED

Forest Park, IL

#7096 Mar 28, 2013
Francine wrote:
<quoted text>
The very exact thing happened to us back in 1978...so what
seems to be the problem? Yes, 1978...before the Mayor was a twinkle
in in parents eyes.
Now we can't possibly blame him, can we ?
Of course we can't blame Chris, he wasn't even born yet but..........just think, his dad's had his grime ridden little fingers in Lyons since the '70s!!!! You see, even you understand how the kid learned and who the kid listens to. Apples don't fall far from the tree.

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