15 teens arrested in brawls after Proviso basketball game in Hi...

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Fifteen teenagers were arrested and two police officers were injured Tuesday night in Hillside during a round of brawls outside Proviso West High School after a basketball game against rival Proviso East, ...
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Den C

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Jan 23, 2008
 
TOM SLICK wrote:
Cancel their games for the rest of the year, and next year you will not hear a peep out of them. It's a shame that fights have to break out at events at school now. I went to a football game there recently to pick up my nephew, and all hell broke loose in the lot. It must have been about 30 police officers there. They wanted to know why I was in the lot sitting in my car. My response was to get my nephew out of here before he gets hurt because he goes to Oak Park. Parents, teach your kids manners when they are not with you.
Right on the money. That would help put this in perspective. Where were the parents of the kids. Daddy's unknown and Mommy is nowhere to be found.
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#29
Jan 23, 2008
 
That figures......are the ones that got stunned going to sue for police brutality???? They should have all got stunned.
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Jan 23, 2008
 
Don Killuminati wrote:
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You have a point, but they both share the same name, only difference East & West and most schools with the same name set up as this often are considered rivals by the students themselves. Sad case, but true....
They have the same name and technically they're supposed to be "sister schools". I went to proviso east and i was a cheerleader and it was the same way with the cheerleaders too and there was usually a fight at the games. Even though they were our "sister school".
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Jan 23, 2008
 
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What the hell is happening to our City? No, you don't see this in predominently white schools. It's called parenting...
You can't POSSIBLY be serious. Where was the parenting at Columbine? The underage drinking parties in the suburbs? Remember that kid Ross, who left a party in the burbs with his friend and ended up crashing killing himself and the friend. Yep, those parents were doing a fine job at the party!

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Jan 23, 2008
 
ME AND YOU wrote:
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Nope, you don't hear about any fighting at the white schools you hear about students killing other students then turning the gun on themselves.
Very isolated occurances....Not daily by and means.
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#34
Jan 23, 2008
 
Animals are usually put in zoos. In Chicago and much of the rest of the United States, they're put in "public schools".
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Jan 23, 2008
 
Tez wrote:
You know what makes this absolutely stupid. 95% of those kids have been knowing each other since Kindergarten. They probably played youth ball together, go to the same church and live less than a 1/4 a mile from each other. They just get to High School and feel they can no longer be friends with someone that does not go to their school.
No offense but I doudt these kids went to kindergarden or even knew each other.These two schoo are not close to each other.One is on 1st ave. and the other on Wolf RD.
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Karma wrote:
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You can't POSSIBLY be serious. Where was the parenting at Columbine? The underage drinking parties in the suburbs? Remember that kid Ross, who left a party in the burbs with his friend and ended up crashing killing himself and the friend. Yep, those parents were doing a fine job at the party!
HOW SOON WE FORGET

I would love for DAN to respond!!!
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Jan 23, 2008
 
Karma wrote:
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You can't POSSIBLY be serious. Where was the parenting at Columbine? The underage drinking parties in the suburbs? Remember that kid Ross, who left a party in the burbs with his friend and ended up crashing killing himself and the friend. Yep, those parents were doing a fine job at the party!
Unfortunately, yeah, he's serious. Dan frequently posts and generally, his posts have the same tone -- he attitude is that of an elitist who clearly sees all of the issues of the minority communities and has summed it all up into two words -- bad parenting. I've learned to just ignore him.
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#38
Jan 23, 2008
 
he attitude = his attitude Apologies for the typo.
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Jan 23, 2008
 
Dan-Chicago wrote:
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Very isolated occurances....Not daily by and means.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE ARTICLE SAYS THAT THESE FIGHTS OCCUR DAILY AT THOSE SCHOOLS EITHER!!! What is your point?

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Jan 23, 2008
 
Karma wrote:
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You can't POSSIBLY be serious. Where was the parenting at Columbine? The underage drinking parties in the suburbs? Remember that kid Ross, who left a party in the burbs with his friend and ended up crashing killing himself and the friend. Yep, those parents were doing a fine job at the party!
You have got to be kidding me....Columbine? Do you know the differnce between an isolated occurance and a daily one? The amount of kids killed at Columbine happens every freakin week in Englewood, Chicago. If you would like I'll get the crime statistics nationwide for you, then will you come out of your bubble?
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Jan 23, 2008
 
Dan-Chicago wrote:
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Very isolated occurances....Not daily by and means.
Take it from a parent of a high schooler (public, mostly white, "blue ribbon"), the white kids do their share of serious brawling (and then some) on school property, on a daily basis... but the public relations (paid out of school board funds) is such that these incidents don't get reported to the newspapers. Money talks. Methinks if the police were not injured in the Proviso incident, we wouldn't have read about it in the Tribune.
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Jan 23, 2008
 
Drug trafficking at York? Comon, that's a stretch trying to equate the antics and culture of wo predominately black schools (PW and PE) and a big Mexican district (Elgin) with a school like York.
There are far more drugs at either of those other districts than at York. Unless you count all the ADHD meds those kids are on.
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This situation, I believe has nothing to do with the skin color of the individuals involved. No, maybe you don't see this at Naperville Central, but then again this is not the Columbine massacre. Cancelling the games at each of the schools would also punish those that were not involved. I think there is a deeper connection that must be noted. Proviso West, which is across the street from two large cemeteries, has a large security team and over 450 cameras installed to monitor the every move of those inside. Proviso East and West are also part of Proviso Township High Schools, which includes a relatively new (and expensive) Magnet Academy. Although there are huge rivalries between the schools, and I do NOT condone their behavior, I feel that a fight between students is not as socially irresponsible as the drug trafficking problem at York High School, or the over crowdedness in Elgin. I believe that the parents share the responsibility for the students, but if you were to take the time to understand the feeding neighborhoods to these schools, you might then understand why these kids are so angry...
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#45
Jan 23, 2008
 
Where were the parents?
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#46
Jan 23, 2008
 
I bet you they knew each other. PW imports kids from surrounding "towns". This used to be a nice school. I went back recently for an event and was pleased to see the metal detectors. It's a bad place with a lot of bad kids. Their home environment and communities suck. It only gets worse.
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#47
Jan 23, 2008
 
I saw this on TV, What do you expect from a lower class of people. I agree they should cancel all of their games, but how do you go to college without a scholarship? I guess you will have to go to class and get good grade just like everyone else.
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#48
Jan 23, 2008
 
BRAVO!!!!!
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It's not a race issue huh? Do you even know what crime statistics are? They are facts. Try looking at them sometime for the city of Chicago, or better yet keep it just to professional sports since you are a big time basketball official. In the last couple years who has been arrested or charged with crimes in the NBA? Or the NFL for that matter? Race has everything to do with it, look at Chicago. Where's the violent crime? What's the racial makeup of the area? You're living in a bubble and so is everyone who doesn't see this. I'm tired of people calling me a racist because I say it how it is. If you're area is crap or has high violent crime and gangs...I blame the residents. I could care less what color they are. And white basketball players have issues? Sex abusers and drugs? If you have proof of this maybe you should report this....Otherwise this is just an assumtion by you. Azzhole!
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#49
Jan 23, 2008
 
I don't know about Proviso West, but I drive by Proviso East every morning on my way to work, and those kids are just ignorant little brats. There are 3 stop lights down 1st avenue, but they still insist on crossing against the lights or in the middle of the block. They'll step right in front of your car and give you a dirty look while they're doing it.
The problem is that parents need to step up and teach their kids to have some respect for others.
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Jan 23, 2008
 
TOM SLICK wrote:
Cancel their games for the rest of the year, and next year you will not hear a peep out of them. It's a shame that fights have to break out at events at school now. I went to a football game there recently to pick up my nephew, and all hell broke loose in the lot. It must have been about 30 police officers there. They wanted to know why I was in the lot sitting in my car. My response was to get my nephew out of here before he gets hurt because he goes to Oak Park. Parents, teach your kids manners when they are not with you.
Cancelling games won't do anythhing but harm to the players. THe players weren't fighting! The audience was! The players deserve to play if they made the team...they shouldn't have to not be able to play because of idiots fighting...

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