Over 400 Kids Taken From Sect

More than 400 children, mostly girls in pioneer dresses, were swept into state custody from a polygamist sect in what authorities described Monday as the largest child-welfare operation in Texas history.

[REVved up]

This is the very kind of religion Jesus warned about. Man-centered and controlling. Jesus said "Go into the world and preach the gospel not isolate yourself and abuse women and children and look for my return." Too many fanatics take the Bible literally when it can only be understood spiritually. Too many want to usher in or live in an escapism mindset of a rapture and end times panic and fear. God says "fear not" all through his word and yet most religious folk do live in fear. We focus too much on the end of time when we should be more concerned with the end of OUR time, for IF you die today that is the end of time for YOU! God put you here to fulfill your purpose not to sit around waiting for the end. Get busy and never put your trust in a man for the Church then becomes a cult. Remember it was religion that crucified Jesus and it will try even today to crucify you too. Get free of religion and find the holy Spirit and he will guide you and lead you and you will not be mis-led by wolves in sheep clothing. Never look for an external answer to an internal problem. Jesus will change your heart and then your life from the inside out. Man cannot help but mis-lead you it's in his nature so beware the Bible warns of this kind and this day. The only way to discern this deception is to know what is truth in a personal relationship with the one who created it all. I'm glad they raided the place before it became another WACKO Waco situation. Anytime you see a self proclaimed Church or compound being constructed in an isolated area where people go and stay and never seem to leave it is cause for concern and a warning sign. Al Qaida does similar things only the name of thier God is different...

[Wow]

Put the parents in JAIL. End of story.

[Sick]

These poor children have had no life. That is just horrible.

[onlymm]

REVved up wrote:

This is the very kind of religion Jesus warned about. Man-centered and controlling. Jesus said "Go into the world and preach the gospel not isolate yourself and abuse women and children and look for my return." Too many fanatics take the Bible literally when it can only be understood spiritually. Too many want to usher in or live in an escapism mindset of a rapture and end times panic and fear. God says "fear not" all through his word and yet most religious folk do live in fear. We focus too much on the end of time when we should be more concerned with the end of OUR time, for IF you die today that is the end of time for YOU! God put you here to fulfill your purpose not to sit around waiting for the end. Get busy and never put your trust in a man for the Church then becomes a cult. Remember it was religion that crucified Jesus and it will try even today to crucify you too. Get free of religion and find the holy Spirit and he will guide you and lead you and you will not be mis-led by wolves in sheep clothing. Never look for an external answer to an internal problem. Jesus will change your heart and then your life from the inside out. Man cannot help but mis-lead you it's in his nature so beware the Bible warns of this kind and this day. The only way to discern this deception is to know what is truth in a personal relationship with the one who created it all. I'm glad they raided the place before it became another WACKO Waco situation. Anytime you see a self proclaimed Church or compound being constructed in an isolated area where people go and stay and never seem to leave it is cause for concern and a warning sign. Al Qaida does similar things only the name of thier God is different...

Wow, this is a great post. Thank you for this. It really brightened my day.

[Dyann PACA West- CA]

Nulli Secundus wrote:

<quoted text>
What are you talking about?

Topix poster local said:

"Um...your church was founded on the principle of polygamy...the guy that started the whole thing claimed to have had a vision of an angel named Moroni (great name by the way) who told him about silver plates buried on his property (that were never seen by anyone but Joseph Smith)...This nutbag somehow convinced his female followers that it was cool for him to have as many wives as possible (even though his wife got pretty pissed at the idea...go figure) and that 12 is the right age to start a family...
The only reason current mormons don't practice this openly is that they had to renounce it due to federal law.
Mormonism and the LDS church is just a silly cult started by a strange and sad little man about 170 years ago."

This is the story of the origins of "Mormonism"...

[Gerry]

In all fairness, if your going to replenish our armed forces with new recruits, at least these females are broken in for breeding may as well fininsh what Hisler started. Damn sure can't expect gangsters and hillbillies to pass the ASVAB!!!

[fed up with the mess]

REVved up wrote:

This is the very kind of religion Jesus warned about. Man-centered and controlling. Jesus said "Go into the world and preach the gospel not isolate yourself and abuse women and children and look for my return." Too many fanatics take the Bible literally when it can only be understood spiritually. Too many want to usher in or live in an escapism mindset of a rapture and end times panic and fear. God says "fear not" all through his word and yet most religious folk do live in fear. We focus too much on the end of time when we should be more concerned with the end of OUR time, for IF you die today that is the end of time for YOU! God put you here to fulfill your purpose not to sit around waiting for the end. Get busy and never put your trust in a man for the Church then becomes a cult. Remember it was religion that crucified Jesus and it will try even today to crucify you too. Get free of religion and find the holy Spirit and he will guide you and lead you and you will not be mis-led by wolves in sheep clothing. Never look for an external answer to an internal problem. Jesus will change your heart and then your life from the inside out. Man cannot help but mis-lead you it's in his nature so beware the Bible warns of this kind and this day. The only way to discern this deception is to know what is truth in a personal relationship with the one who created it all. I'm glad they raided the place before it became another WACKO Waco situation. Anytime you see a self proclaimed Church or compound being constructed in an isolated area where people go and stay and never seem to leave it is cause for concern and a warning sign. Al Qaida does similar things only the name of thier God is different...

You are 100% correct!!! When will people learn?????

[eljewell]

Why are the women and girls dressed like Laura Ingalls Wilder on Little house on the Prairie?

[fed up with the mess]

eljewell wrote:

Why are the women and girls dressed like Laura Ingalls Wilder on Little house on the Prairie?

How come the woman can't have more than one husband? Because it is sexist and made for and by men for their sexual pleasures only!!!!

[eljewell]

That is the reason why he is brought up on charges and will do federal time. I have problems with my 1 wife. 70!1 oh the horror. lol

fed up with the mess wrote:

<quoted text>How come the woman can't have more than one husband? Because it is sexist and made for and by men for their sexual pleasures only!!!!

[Nulli Secundus]

fed up with the mess wrote:

<quoted text>How come the woman can't have more than one husband?

The answer is why would we want to have more than one.

I also have to state that I disagree with the above postings on that church. It isn't from a "source" but from a topix poster and we all know that periodically posters aren't all there.

I went to "mormon" wikipedia to check it out and there are things both easy to understand and difficult but nothing of this nature.

[Dyann PACA West- CA]

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...

This is easy to understand

[Nulli Secundus]

Thanks for the post, but Jon Krakauer is a raving lunatic. My children have been assigned to read several of his adventure books in high school and his is universally mocked even by teens who think everything is cool. I picked them up to read them thinking they were exaggerating. They weren't.

[audryj]

I wonder which one is worse. A polygamist religious sect that has very few crime problems in its compound and as far as I can tell any follower is free to leave whenever they want. Or a state entity that uses fat necked, beer bellied low IQ hired armed assassins to round up 400 children and put them into a concentration camp for their own good?

Who is next? Those nasty and dangerous looking Amish?

[fed up with the mess]

eljewell wrote:

That is the reason why he is brought up on charges and will do federal time. I have problems with my 1 wife. 70!1 oh the horror. lol
<quoted text>

Now that is funny!!

[fed up with the mess]

Nulli Secundus wrote:

<quoted text>
The answer is why would we want to have more than one.
I also have to state that I disagree with the above postings on that church. It isn't from a "source" but from a topix poster and we all know that periodically posters aren't all there.
I went to "mormon" wikipedia to check it out and there are things both easy to understand and difficult but nothing of this nature.

For the same reasons the men want more than one wife...right? What are those reasons?

[fed up with the mess]

Dyann PACA West- CA wrote:

<quoted text>
Topix poster local said:
"Um...your church was founded on the principle of polygamy...the guy that started the whole thing claimed to have had a vision of an angel named Moroni (great name by the way) who told him about silver plates buried on his property (that were never seen by anyone but Joseph Smith)...This nutbag somehow convinced his female followers that it was cool for him to have as many wives as possible (even though his wife got pretty pissed at the idea...go figure) and that 12 is the right age to start a family...
The only reason current mormons don't practice this openly is that they had to renounce it due to federal law.
Mormonism and the LDS church is just a silly cult started by a strange and sad little man about 170 years ago."
This is the story of the origins of "Mormonism"...

This is sooo true. Mormon folks stop lying and trying to make like being a mormon is the right thing to do. It is wrong with false teachings and false prophets. That simple!!!

[audryj]

Sick wrote:

These poor children have had no life. That is just horrible.

Gosh, you are right! I think these little darlings should be put into a inner city school and let the culturally rich multicult "gangsta" influence show them the way real US children live in the 21st century.

I just bet they will all soon have pieces of metal stuck in their faces and the crack of their butts showing out of the baggy pants while they truck on down the road listening to rap cr*p like real red blooded American kids.

[Nulli Secundus]

fed up with the mess wrote:

<quoted text>For the same reasons the men want more than one wife...right? What are those reasons?

I'm not the correct gender to give you a good answer, but IMO men like power and women like substance. Our maybe it's just the cooking and cleaning thing.

Perhaps our male counterparts can advise us?

[Ernest Crawford]

fed up with the mess wrote:

<quoted text>How come the woman can't have more than one husband? Because it is sexist and made for and by men for their sexual pleasures only!!!!

The founder prophet of Mormonism, Joseph had a vision from God telling him that a man may have more than one wife in order to populate easier.
If a man has more than one wife he can have more children much quicker. If a woman has more than one man, what difference is it going to make? It still takes the same long time period to have a baby.