Elderly man who died went for trooper...

Elderly man who died went for troopers rifle, police say

There are 134 comments on the Charleston Gazette story from Sep 17, 2012, titled Elderly man who died went for troopers rifle, police say. In it, Charleston Gazette reports that:

A 71-year-old Doddridge County man who died after being subdued by State Police last week tried to grab a trooper's rifle during a search of his home, a State Police spokesman said.

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lost

Clarksburg, WV

#2 Sep 18, 2012
I sure can. RIP Elton
lost

Clarksburg, WV

#3 Sep 18, 2012
They let their presence known by busting in the door! You can see the circle on the door from the ramrod! RIP Elton
knows

Montclair, NJ

#4 Sep 18, 2012
if that were to happen with my Dad and someone was breaking down the door, he would shoot whomever was coming through that door. It's the right of a home owner and a person to protect themselves.
shimmer

Saint Clairsville, OH

#5 Sep 18, 2012
lost wrote:
I sure can. RIP Elton
My dad was best friends with this man for years!!! I don't think the whole truth is being told. I do not believe he went for the gun. The neighbor states she found blood in the house... very sad... my heart breaks for him.
what happened

Omaha, NE

#6 Sep 18, 2012
Dead men tell no tales...Every cop knows that.

It's easy to get away with murder when yours is the only story being told and your friends/co-workers are the ones investigating.
The Truth

West Union, WV

#7 Sep 18, 2012
The police are hiding something here and they and the public know it also. In the initial report there was no mention of the victom going for a gun, yet on the radio this morning there was mention of the victom going for a gun in a second report that was released. Something doesn't add up.
zuccini

Fairmont, WV

#8 Sep 18, 2012
mrs wine should go to the attorny general`s office and request the troopers involved should take a lie detector test.as he was a friend of mine too.
lost

Clarksburg, WV

#9 Sep 18, 2012
He had no wife but has 2 daughters
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tom

Mena, AR

#11 Sep 18, 2012
too bad he did not get at least one of the pigs.....they invaded his property....now they lie about what happened......wish they would try my house.....
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Wideglide

Snowshoe, WV

#13 Sep 19, 2012
RIP Elton.
hatesdruggies

Ardsley, NY

#14 Sep 19, 2012
tom wrote:
too bad he did not get at least one of the pigs.....they invaded his property....now they lie about what happened......wish they would try my house.....
This man had an extensive and violent record. Growing and selling drugs. Apparently his extensive drugs use and life style caused his failing health..you gonna blame that on the cops too? And if you want the Po Po at your house tough guy, why not post your address, I'm sure it won't be hard for them to find something to come arrest your worthless ass on. Especially if you're friends of a known criminal. I hate smack talkers almost as much as druggies!
lost

Clarksburg, WV

#15 Sep 19, 2012
Elton did not have an extensive and violent record!RIP Elton
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jstsyng

Mathias, WV

#17 Sep 19, 2012
to the best of my knowledge elton did not have an extensive criminal record but they haVE to say that. i mean you can't say a 71 year old man who did nothing was ed by police. its funny it took 4 days for the story about elton going for a rifle to emerge . it was more like guilt by association. and the fugitive was not at elton's at this time. its a shame what happened.

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

New York, NY

#18 Sep 19, 2012
Funny. The only people who die from cannabis are as a result of it's prohibition.
Coincidence? I think not !!!

Yet alcohol kills over 300K a year but it's legal.

Go figure.

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

New York, NY

#19 Sep 19, 2012
hatesdruggies wrote:
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This man had an extensive and violent record. Growing and selling drugs. Apparently his extensive drugs use and life style caused his failing health..you gonna blame that on the cops too? And if you want the Po Po at your house tough guy, why not post your address, I'm sure it won't be hard for them to find something to come arrest your worthless ass on. Especially if you're friends of a known criminal. I hate smack talkers almost as much as druggies!
That's right. The pharma/alcohol/textile/big oil/private prison/drug rehab/law enforcement lobbies don't like people who speak up in favor of people using any drugs that do not have a barcode and interferes in their profitability, and they'll send their dogs (police) after you.

I assume then, HD, that you hate alcohol users as well?
jstsyng

Mathias, WV

#20 Sep 19, 2012
could someone add eltons obituirary to this forum
Story

Saint Albans, WV

#21 Sep 19, 2012
Leninny had do th police have in connection with pharm companies? Why do they care? They get paid to protect and serve and that is exactly what they were doing!! If you had a gun pointed at someone and they try to grab it are you gonna shoot them before they shoot you? You think the troopers had no reason to be there? If he was alas abiding citizen they wouldnt have been there? Do you think they enjoy killing someone? That's a lot to deal with!! They just don't kill people who are doing absolutely nothing and go thru what they do! I would say you have had some encounters with law enforcement but I bet you want them there when u need it
hatesdruggies

Ardsley, NY

#22 Sep 19, 2012
Len in NY wrote:
<quoted text>That's right. The pharma/alcohol/textile/big oil/private prison/drug rehab/law enforcement lobbies don't like people who speak up in favor of people using any drugs that do not have a barcode and interferes in their profitability, and they'll send their dogs (police) after you.

I assume then, HD, that you hate alcohol users as well?
Well aren't I the privileged one to be called out by Len in NY?! Who comes all the way to topix website in WV to showcase his over flowing knowledge of everything...such an honor.
And to answer your assumption, yes, if you abuse alcohol I hate you too..and know it all's are high on that list as well.
You can add pretty much anyone who feels they're above the law.
Plain and simply put. If you do what you're supposed to do, you don't have to worry about the police knocking on your door. Period.

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

New York, NY

#23 Sep 19, 2012
Story wrote:
Leninny had do th police have in connection with pharm companies? Why do they care? They get paid to protect and serve and that is exactly what they were doing!! If you had a gun pointed at someone and they try to grab it are you gonna shoot them before they shoot you? You think the troopers had no reason to be there? If he was alas abiding citizen they wouldnt have been there? Do you think they enjoy killing someone? That's a lot to deal with!! They just don't kill people who are doing absolutely nothing and go thru what they do! I would say you have had some encounters with law enforcement but I bet you want them there when u need it
Lobbyists pay politicians to make laws in their favor. Law enforcement report not to the people, but to politicians. There's the connection.
I've seen more than enough reports where police make up a story to justify a fatal shooting only for it to be BS. Add to the fact that the person they were looking for was not even wanted on a violent crime charge, but for growing a plant, and there you have an example of thuggery plain and simple.
BTW, I've NEVER had any negative encounters with law enforcement. I have, however, seen enough examples of authority abuse to be wary of stories such as this.
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Since: Dec 10

New York, NY

#27 Sep 19, 2012
hatesdruggies wrote:
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Well aren't I the privileged one to be called out by Len in NY?! Who comes all the way to topix website in WV to showcase his over flowing knowledge of everything...such an honor.
And to answer your assumption, yes, if you abuse alcohol I hate you too..and know it all's are high on that list as well.
You can add pretty much anyone who feels they're above the law.
Plain and simply put. If you do what you're supposed to do, you don't have to worry about the police knocking on your door. Period.
First of all, this story is in other threads besides the WV thread, so get over yourself.
All I did was state facts and ask a question. Every industry that I mentioned has a stake in the current prohibition of cannabis which, if you bothered to look it up, is based in corporate greed, ignorance and misinformation.
I just wanted to clarify your statement. By your admission, you hate those who abuse alcohol. Fair enough. Is your hatred of cannabis users also limited to abuse or do you hate all users?
As far as "having nothing to fear", you may like living in a nanny state wher the police can come in your house for any reason they see fit because you "have nothing to hide", but, to me, that's a scary proposition.
I don't claim to have knowledge of everything, not even close. But I am smart enough to know when laws have no basis in reality, logic or public safety and everything to do with benefitting benefactors of business and politicians. If you weren't so blind, you may see that too.

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