Pittsfield Police

There are 36 comments on the Berkshire Eagle story from Jul 26, 2008, titled Pittsfield Police. In it, Berkshire Eagle reports that:

Actually, they've been back for five years. But they have "come a long way" since then, according to William J. Mickle III, referring to the Pittsfield Police Auxiliary, the part-time reserve unit he ...

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Ex Aux Cop

Norfolk, CT

#3 Jul 26, 2008
How can everyone forget that Mr. Grizey ran the Aux. Police Department for years without any issues. Yes they where trained and carried a sidearm in the event of an emergency. There has always been an issue between the regular force and the Aux. Unit mostly because of the police union who has always controlled the department and mayor. How about every other city that has a Aux. Police Force that works the outside details and gets payed, and the open shifts to keep overtime for the tax payers down. Mr. Mickle is a great guy and has worked hard at everything he has always done but he has the old boy attitude and needs to step up and get his staff what the deserve. The mayors office also needs to stop being bullied by the police union and be a leader and not a follower.
yesterdays news tommorrow

Albany, NY

#4 Jul 26, 2008
i wonder if this qualifies them to work the road details and make the big bucks.
See the Real Deal

Norfolk, CT

#5 Jul 26, 2008
They should be able to do road details but once again the regulars block them from getting the paid details.
Ex Pittsfield EMA Member

Lee, MA

#6 Jul 26, 2008
I agree with the Ex-Aux. Cop from Goshen,
This group under Mr. Grizey was run just fine w/o any issues, and yes they were armed. It came down to the Police Union did'nt want to give up their Outside Details, which is a "Big Cash Cow" for these Officers, the Ex-Auxilary Officers under Ex-Capt. Salzarulo worked just fine, as a matter of fact all of the Ex-Officers had gone thru a MA. Reserve/Part-Time Police Officers Academy, and all had passed the Academy!. Then when it came time, when Ex-Capt. Salzarulo had gone to the Mayor & City Council req. to have the Auxilary Officers armed as they were all were Trained by the Academy, all of a sudden the Group was Disbanded. Could it be that if these Ex-Auxilary Officers were armed then they would be elligable for the Utility & Construction Details, thus taking away from the Police Union.! Thats the real reason why this Group was Disbanded. Now you have a group of "Untrained" Auxilary Officers, who in my eyes are a Liabilty to the City!
Ex-Aux

United States

#7 Jul 26, 2008
I was an Aux Officer when things went down. Things ran fine, in fact, things ran great. We were dis-band because we asked for guns, cause PPD kept having us do details that were getting more dangerous (Holyoke parade, boston marathon etc), Salzarulo was just looking out for us. And yes, the Union got scared when we asked for the guns, cause then we DID qualify to work road jobs and private details for $$$. I think Riello was nervous cause the Aux Officers looked and acted more professional than his own crew.
The old Aux's only got a bad name cause of Salzarulo's bad doings in other towns at the very moment things were going down. If he had learned to keep his mouth shut and his hand out of the pot, then the old crew would still be in business.

Besides,look at the crew now, they have graphics on their cars that look like they bought them from a circus!
Ex-Aux 2

Norfolk, CT

#8 Jul 26, 2008
I too am an Ex-Aux officer who worked under Mr. Grizey with no issues or problems. We carried and where quilified with firearms and even had to have a better score than the regular officers. Than because someone felt scared are guns where taken away and we where told that we had no powers of arrest. Back then when the Aux Officers where under Civil Defense and the way the city charter read we did have powers of arrest but they didnt want us to use them. We where good enough to come out at all hours in all weather and take over traffic duty so the regular officers could clear and be available for other calls. Some of the older guys where decent but we where always held back. Thats the reason the department went from under Mr.Grizey to the direct control of the police department. When all this took place it was time to leave and move on. You are also so right about the cruiser looking a circus vehicle. Back then we got the old Pittsfield Cruiser and they where all rebuilt, cleaned and repainted under the direction of Tom Grizey and Don Dude and many others. The cars when they where done looked better and ran better than the regular force. There cars always looked like crap after all the accidents and never being cleaned. This is why you have the force you do now so no one will complain or want the proper training. I am also academy trained and certified and would never waste my time again.
Real Thing

AOL

#9 Jul 26, 2008
Aux units have a role. Part time cop part time results. You wouldn't want a part time doctor treating you so why would you assume such liablity in law enforcement. If you choose to wear the uniform some time then choose the career that goes with it full time. If not then you have to expect the limits place on the unit. As far as the police union's position... I'd like to hear your response if the union personnel showed up at your job and did it for nothing taking income away from you.
Past Aux Officer Also

Albany, NY

#11 Jul 28, 2008
I too was an auxiliary officer in the Salzarulo days when we were hated for what we were told we would be doing. Chief Riello had told the dept. to do one thing and told the full time officers we were doing another so when our paths crossed we clashed, only to be expected. When it comes to sidearms we were told we would be carrying because Riello aggreed it was prudent to have us as protected in the uniform. We were volunteers and did this program to give back to the community only. Our expected role was to help and assist the full time officers only not take money or jobs. We were the hated ones when it was the chief screwing them over. When we were informed we were going to carry Riello had told us that we had to take a firearm course taught by the since retired Capt. Spezzaferro before he would arm us, then later told the full timers that we would never carry. all of our problems were mostly with the chief at the time being two faced rather than having a set and leading like he should have and not letting the union run the dept. like they did. Salzarulo was only looking out for the unit the chief had asked him to lead and just never played the political game like everyone else did. The funniest thing in that if we were such a rogue unit and did such terrible things to become disbanded, then why is it we always showed up and covered details and storms and patrolls without question and the only complaints were from either the union or union officers, never from politcal officials or the general public. we got as bum rap because of poor liason relations and a political chief. if we weren't going to do certain things we should have been told and we wouldn't have expected them. PERIOD.
J Phillips

Syracuse, NY

#12 Jul 28, 2008
Way to go
Goober

United States

#13 Jul 28, 2008
Ok, I want some idiotic, no life individual wanna-be driving around carrying a gun. If ya want to be a cop, take the civil service test. Let the trained profesionals handle the real calls
Past Aux Officer Also

Albany, NY

#14 Jul 28, 2008
we were trained just like the surrounding towns. we all had the part time reserve academy training. the same that Dalton, Lenox, Lanesboro, etc have.
Huh

Franklin, MA

#15 Jul 28, 2008
Goober wrote:
Ok, I want some idiotic, no life individual wanna-be driving around carrying a gun. If ya want to be a cop, take the civil service test. Let the trained profesionals handle the real calls
I don't get the distinction between the "idiotic" and the "profesionals" .....
Trained Ex-Officer

United States

#16 Jul 28, 2008
Good point "past aux officer also" I happen to know many Ex-Aux Officers who took that training whom are now working in some surrounding towns.

And just because we said we qualified to work road jobs and special details, didn't mean we wanted to. We all signed up to do a volunteer job, if we wanted to make money as a cop, we would have taken the civil service exam. Which by the way, as we all know, doesn't always hire the most qualified individuals, it is purely a political game.
Aux is a joke

Syracuse, NY

#17 Jul 28, 2008
Part time reserve academy is NOT full time academy, half you pukes would wash out in full time. of those that are left, maybe 25% are worth something.
Know your place.
Aux=wannabe's that never were.
Past Aux Officer Also

Albany, NY

#18 Jul 29, 2008
Dear aux is a joke, did someone have to point out to you that part time doesn't mean full time or are you that smart all by your self.
Past Aux Officer Also

Albany, NY

#19 Jul 29, 2008
Also, you never heard of a part time police officer, if only on rare occasion, or and auxiliary officer being accused of excessive force being used or sexual advances, or even alleged rape on a female induvidual. I thought not!!!!!!!!!! yeah being a full time officer holds great benifits.
Twopoint five

Greenfield, MA

#20 Jul 29, 2008
Past Aux Officer Also wrote:
Also, you never heard of a part time police officer, if only on rare occasion, or and auxiliary officer being accused of excessive force being used or sexual advances, or even alleged rape on a female induvidual. I thought not!!!!!!!!!! yeah being a full time officer holds great benifits.
Hinsdale !
Amenhoptep III

Broadalbin, NY

#21 Jul 29, 2008
If a person wants to help the community in the area of police work then allow it. But The problem is fame and glory. If a normal person like myself solved a homicide then that takes away from the detectives in Pittsfield then the jeoulsy begins. I could solve series crimes but its about titles and promotions. You know to become a private detective its hard, but when it comes to the truth its all about common sense. I challenge any cop who is a detective out there in pittsfield or north adams that if they have any cold cases pertaining to murder I could solve them but they don't care.
heynow

Syracuse, NY

#22 Jul 29, 2008
Past Aux Officer Also wrote:
Also, you never heard of a part time police officer, if only on rare occasion, or and auxiliary officer being accused of excessive force being used or sexual advances, or even alleged rape on a female induvidual. I thought not!!!!!!!!!! yeah being a full time officer holds great benifits.
No.. they just commit forgeries and larceny of a motor vehicle.
heynow

Syracuse, NY

#23 Jul 29, 2008
With all the crap that the real police get on here from posters, do you ex-aux's really expect any sopport??

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