No place for quasi-private school

I just found myself agreeing with Alan Chartock, , so the science must surely be settled. Full Story
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HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Woodbridge, VA

#1 Dec 27, 2009
Uh-oh, another public teat-loving bureaucrat is coming out of the woodwork to to protect fellow public teat-loving bureaucrats.
Another indication this proposed charter school is not only a good idea -- but way overdue.
economics professor

Pittsfield, MA

#2 Dec 27, 2009
the school system is a cash cow and money laundering agent...the children and education are merely a front.....
Thinking is allowed

Westfield, MA

#3 Dec 28, 2009
I know. Let's turn our public schools over to Wall St. The miraculous "invisible hand" of the holy free market will do the job better and they won't take excessive profits, right?
oh my

Pittsfield, MA

#4 Dec 28, 2009
Thinking is allowed wrote:
I know. Let's turn our public schools over to Wall St. The miraculous "invisible hand" of the holy free market will do the job better and they won't take excessive profits, right?
if we had politicians who did their jobs because of the love of their country and not the wealth and bennies it provides the country would be awesome

if we had educators and educational administrators who did their jobs because they loved children the school systems would be awesome...they should be paid but not have wagons of money dumped at their doorsteps

Since: May 07

Stockbridge Mass

#5 Dec 28, 2009
oh my wrote:
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if we had politicians who did their jobs because of the love of their country and not the wealth and bennies it provides the country would be awesome
if we had educators and educational administrators who did their jobs because they loved children the school systems would be awesome...they should be paid but not have wagons of money dumped at their doorsteps
So let me understand you, you want politicians for love of country for no pay and you want teachers to love kids and do it for free,where do you work,do you work for free,do Police ,Doctors ,Firemen,Stockbrokers,Bankers. .......work for free?
Rob

Altamont, NY

#6 Dec 28, 2009
Agreeing with Alan Chartock - he is a compete moron.
Dave Harding

Yorba Linda, CA

#7 Dec 28, 2009
If EVERY student who attends the public schools in the district is doing well academically, then Mark Webber is correct. A charter school is not needed. Competition only works when there is a need for it and if the local school system has achieved perfection, the need is obviously not there.
duh

Pittsfield, MA

#8 Dec 28, 2009
Giantone wrote:
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So let me understand you, you want politicians for love of country for no pay and you want teachers to love kids and do it for free,where do you work,do you work for free,do Police ,Doctors ,Firemen,Stockbrokers,Bankers. .......work for free?
you really need to invest in a reading comprehension course dude

Since: May 07

Stockbridge Mass

#9 Dec 28, 2009
duh wrote:
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you really need to invest in a reading comprehension course dude
Dude,Dude,...did you just call me dude???wow....My comprehension is fine but I think and your buddies need to go back to school and learn a thing or two,like how to live in the real world.

Since: May 07

Stockbridge Mass

#10 Dec 28, 2009
Dave Harding wrote:
If EVERY student who attends the public schools in the district is doing well academically, then Mark Webber is correct. A charter school is not needed. Competition only works when there is a need for it and if the local school system has achieved perfection, the need is obviously not there.
What is your definition of doing well? No school system has ever or ever will achieve perfection
chartockmoron

Altamont, NY

#11 Dec 28, 2009
Rob wrote:
Agreeing with Alan Chartock - he is a compete moron.
I have to agree!
HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Woodbridge, VA

#12 Dec 28, 2009
Why is there no mention in any of these articles on this subject just where all the state revenues are actually going if not back to the cities, towns, and school systems whose taxpayers pay into state coffers?
Did someone say "to pay off The Big Dig"?
Notice that Massachusetts is essentially defaulting on its obligations to its cities, towns, and school children in lieu of defaulting on its Big Dig bond obligations.
So given the choice of screwing investors in the Big Dig or giving the shaft to its own citizens, Massachusetts is choosing to keep Big Dig backers happy.
It's the Liberal Democrats who control Massachusetts who can be thanked for this state of affairs.
Billy Jack

Glens Falls, NY

#13 Dec 28, 2009
HellerCarbonCapNTradeLLC wrote:
Why is there no mention in any of these articles on this subject just where all the state revenues are actually going if not back to the cities, towns, and school systems whose taxpayers pay into state coffers?
Did someone say "to pay off The Big Dig"?
Notice that Massachusetts is essentially defaulting on its obligations to its cities, towns, and school children in lieu of defaulting on its Big Dig bond obligations.
So given the choice of screwing investors in the Big Dig or giving the shaft to its own citizens, Massachusetts is choosing to keep Big Dig backers happy.
It's the Liberal Democrats who control Massachusetts who can be thanked for this state of affairs.
The Big Dig was a Republican controlled boondoggle which is why that boy is gone. Maybe you'd like to vote for him in the next presidential election. I hope you do.
changing times

Longmeadow, MA

#14 Dec 28, 2009
Charter schools in Massachusetts are public schools licensed directly through the MA Department of Education. They provide parents and community groups an option when a group of students needs are not being met by a local school district.

To imply that they are private is to either distort the truth or to outright lie. To imply that local school boards and politicians are above their own pettiness and politics in directing the schools they oversee is ridiculous.

Parents deserve options when their local school is failing to meet their needs and local schools that lose students to a charter school deserve to lose every dollar of state aide due to their failure to best meet the needs of tax-paying families.
jay w

South Hadley, MA

#15 Dec 28, 2009
Public education is a failure country wide. It is not provided for in the Constitution. Public ed. is a joke, if you want to have kids then you should be able to provide an education for them. Same as clothing and feeding your children and providing them with a roof over their heads. Not my problem, you should have thought about it before you had them. What the hell ever happened to personal responsibility? And no, I did not attend public schools as a child, my parents provided for themselves and their son.
Everyone in my graduating class (st. joe '94) went to college or into the service. Can you public school supporters say that? Maybe but I doubt it.
HellerCarbonCapN TradeLLC

Woodbridge, VA

#16 Dec 29, 2009
Billy Jack wrote:
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The Big Dig was a Republican controlled boondoggle which is why that boy is gone. Maybe you'd like to vote for him in the next presidential election. I hope you do.
Wrong.
The Big Dig was created, packaged, and pushed through by Democrats Ted Kennedy and House Speaker Tip O'Neill.
From O'Neill's standpoint it was his going away gift to the big Massachusetts trade unions and big construction firms.
ResponsibleParty

Altamont, NY

#17 Dec 29, 2009
changing times wrote:
Charter schools in Massachusetts are public schools licensed directly through the MA Department of Education. They provide parents and community groups an option when a group of students needs are not being met by a local school district.
To imply that they are private is to either distort the truth or to outright lie. To imply that local school boards and politicians are above their own pettiness and politics in directing the schools they oversee is ridiculous.
Parents deserve options when their local school is failing to meet their needs and local schools that lose students to a charter school deserve to lose every dollar of state aide due to their failure to best meet the needs of tax-paying families.
Very well stated.

Since: May 07

Stockbridge Mass

#18 Dec 29, 2009
jay w wrote:
Public education is a failure country wide. It is not provided for in the Constitution. Public ed. is a joke, if you want to have kids then you should be able to provide an education for them. Same as clothing and feeding your children and providing them with a roof over their heads. Not my problem, you should have thought about it before you had them. What the hell ever happened to personal responsibility? And no, I did not attend public schools as a child, my parents provided for themselves and their son.
Everyone in my graduating class (st. joe '94) went to college or into the service. Can you public school supporters say that? Maybe but I doubt it.
Stop all calls ,Folks we have a winner! You sir have won the Dumbest post of the Day contest,Johnny tell the man what he's won!

Since: May 07

Stockbridge Mass

#19 Dec 29, 2009
jay w wrote:
Everyone in my graduating class (st. joe '94) went to college or into the service. Can you public school supporters say that? Maybe but I doubt it.
Same in my school which was public,Millburn High school,Millburn NJ.How many in your class,there are a number of public schools doing better then privet ...whole boat load in VA.

Since: May 07

Stockbridge Mass

#20 Dec 29, 2009
changing times wrote:
Parents deserve options when their local school is failing to meet their needs and local schools that lose students to a charter school deserve to lose every dollar of state aide due to their failure to best meet the needs of tax-paying families.
They have options,if the child is above his class move to where he or she can be challenged but your way of thinking won't work.Lets say Johnny goes to a charter school well now his best friend Tommy wants to go also,his grades are good but not great why doesn't he deserve the right to be challenged like the other students.Lets not even mention Parents who ...and yes all are like this ....think their child is the smartest or brightest,Schools are not here for the tax- paying Families as you say ,there here for the kids and teachers are doing the best they can with what they have which is very little.

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