Lesbian cadet quits West Point, cites...

Lesbian cadet quits West Point, cites 'don't ask'

There are 46 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Aug 12, 2010, titled Lesbian cadet quits West Point, cites 'don't ask'. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

A lesbian cadet asked to resign from the U.S. Military Academy because she said she can no longer lie about her sexuality and was troubled by the anti-gay attitudes of some around her.

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Inky2

United States

#1 Aug 12, 2010
What a shame this young women puts herself above service to her country. It's all about her gay agenda and not our country with her. She was only asked not to discuss her sexual preference and serve the people of this country. What a shame she is so self centered.

Since: Dec 07

Arlington, VA

#2 Aug 12, 2010
DADT will eventually be changed or abandoned because it's a generational issue. The two points which I think are quite wrong in the debate are:(1) the military is _not_ required to mirror prevailing or progressive values in civil society; and (2) no soldier is compelled to lie about anything-- simply not to discuss an issue which is totally irrelevant to the military mission. I believe there are a significant percentage of gays who are "ego-dystonic homosexuals", which remains a disorder in the APA's DSM after it was revised to split homosexuality into "ego-syntonic" (not a disorder) and ego-dystonic (which is). I doubt that many gays are ever evaluated by competent psychiatrists to identify which they are, but some are still diseased, not simply "differently sexed".
Bob

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Aug 12, 2010
Inky2 wrote:
What a shame this young women puts herself above service to her country. It's all about her gay agenda and not our country with her. She was only asked not to discuss her sexual preference and serve the people of this country. What a shame she is so self centered.
Hey, at least she was man enough to quit.
curious cat

Watsonville, CA

#4 Aug 13, 2010
hate crimes everywhere. and they weren't even gay!

http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2010/08/defendant...

to quote:

"Defendants Sentenced in Hate Crime Slaying of José Sucuzhanay

By Ty Cobb
August 6th, 2010 at 9:45 am

On June 28, 2010, a New York State Supreme Court jury convicted Keith Phoenix of committing two hate crimes for beating José Sucuzhanay to death and attacking the victim’s brother, Romel, in Brooklyn’s Bushwick neighborhood after mistaking the Ecuadorian immigrants as a gay couple.

José Sucuzhanay

Yesterday, Judge Patricia M. Di Mango determined that Pheonix and his accomplice, Hakim Scott, will serve a minimum prison term of just over three decades for the 2008 murder of José and the attempted assault on his brother Romel. While Phoenix was convicted of a hate crime, Scott was not.

A mistrial had previously been declared on May 11th, when one juror held out for a lesser charge of manslaughter while the other 11 jurors believed that second-degree murder should be applied. Unlike the second jury, the first jury did not believe Phoenix’s acts were bias-motivated.

HRC applauds Judge DiMango for holding both Phoenix and Scott accountable for their actions with an appropriate prison sentence."

IN THE MILITARY, REPEAL DON'T ASK DON'T TELL:

http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2010/08/veterans-...

"Veterans Lobby Senate Staff in Fargo

By Karl Bach
August 6th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

Last week, veterans from the Fargo area shared their experiences in the military with staff from the offices of Senator Dorgan and Senator Conrad. Wayne Danielson also wrote to the Fargo Forum:

I served in the Navy from 1986-90, and all the men in my family have been in the military. I enlisted and quickly progressed through the ranks. After deployments to the Gulf of Oman and the Persian Gulf, where I served as an aviation storekeeper, I was offered a position on the admiral’s staff in Norfolk, Va. I turned down this opportunity because I no longer wanted to live a lie.

This was prior to “don’t ask, don’t tell,” but I decided that in order to live up to the values of honesty and integrity, I had to leave the military. I was the best in my field, yet I was forced to hide who I was in order to serve my country. It’s time for Congress to repeal “don’t ask, don’t tell” before we lose more qualified service members.”"

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Aug 13, 2010
Tuesday night Rachel Maddow delivers a powerful hour of television focusing on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" including a powerful segment with this outstanding young woman.
Three excellent interviews with outstanding patriots who were victimized by DADT, plus outstanding closing comments: http://www.afterelton.com/tv/2010/08/12/rache...
Rachel made the case against “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” on several fronts. She detailed the investment we’ve made in people like Capt. Hopkins, Cadet-Sgt. Miller and Lt Co. Fehrenbach, significant investments of time and money. She pointed out the personal commitment GLBT soldiers have made. Then she voiced frustration at the slow pace of overturning “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”:
What's the rush? Why are we kicking people out now, in the meantime, while we are waiting for the views of the commander-in-chief and the defense secretary and the chairman of the joint chiefs-of-staff to be implemented?
If you are changing the policy soon, why not hold off the ruination of lives under the policy now, in the meantime? Why not do that?
I'll tell you why. Because that would take some political capital. That would take some guts.
And liberals, according to this White House, ought to be drug tested if we're expecting to see that from this White House right now. Stop complaining and be happy for what you have.
Lieutenant Dan Choi, Colonel Fehrenbach and Captain Hopkins and Cadet Sergeant Miller are all expendable, because doing what it would take to save them would be hard for the White House. So go ahead and watch their careers destroyed but stop complaining about it.
Somewhere out in the blogosphere, someone was inspired to use the phrase “Rachel Maddow eviscerates” once more.
Rey

AOL

#7 Aug 13, 2010
Gays have served in the military for many years and served honorably.

The difference today is people feel a need to flaunt their sexuality, yes, that includes Heteros.

Do I really care who you sleep with, just shut up and do your job.

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Aug 13, 2010
Rey wrote:
Gays have served in the military for many years and served honorably.
The difference today is people feel a need to flaunt their sexuality, yes, that includes Heteros.
Do I really care who you sleep with, just shut up and do your job.
Or as Barry Goldwater --- yea the conservative icon -- so well said: "You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight."

Of course that was well before the Republica Party was taken over by the rapture right bible thumpin' Christo-nazi crazies.
Huh

United States

#9 Aug 13, 2010
PlacitasRoy wrote:
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**** shame you are so ignorant.
**** shame patriotic men and woman are so discriminated against they are no allowed to serve their country.
**** shame the country has wasted so much money and man power because of outright bigotry and prejudices....and for no **** good reason.
Hey Placenta Boy, read the actual policy! It clearly presents the reasons homosexuals are not conducive to the close quarters functionality of the military!
yellow

El Paso, TX

#10 Aug 13, 2010
#9 in her class of 1100. Beat the Army's physical training test scores, scored highest on her leadership qualities at West Point. Too bad she had to leave the Army. Alot of great military assets have left the military for the same reason.

Tough to feel real bad she transferred to Yale. THat is a nice golden parachute.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#11 Aug 13, 2010
Huh wrote:
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Hey Placenta Boy, read the actual policy! It clearly presents the reasons homosexuals are not conducive to the close quarters functionality of the military!
cuz they're afraid of being boinked ?!
Rey

AOL

#16 Aug 13, 2010
Mary, there have gays in the military for years and the military hasnt fallen apart yet.

Havent you gotten the word, that the Army has co-ed quarters? They dont mix the rooms, but they do share showers. In co-ed quarters, the showers are in private cubicles. I am sure the military would implement the necessary adjustments.

Also, gays are just like Heteros, they are not aroused by everyone they see.

Most people would leave the military if forced to Serve with practicing gays? Practicing gay? Practicing Hetero? And what studies have you conducted? Were the subjects surveyed your friends?
Was your survey private or protected? You know people could lie for any number of reasons.

Before you get started I am not gay. Like I already stated, Gays/Heteros, just shut up and do the job.
TxRngr

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#18 Aug 13, 2010
PlacitasRoy wrote:
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Same friggin' reason Blacks would have not bee conductive to the close quarters functional of the military....raw & rank illogical prejudice and hate.
There is not one single god reason for keeping the volunteers from serving their country if the are qualified. I'd be a hell of a lot more comfortable with some gays on board a ship, in a barracks, or in a foxhole than a bunch of **********
Being an admitted racist yourself, you wouldn't last 1 day in the military. And no one care what a racist, like yourself, is comfortable with.
not surprised

United States

#20 Aug 13, 2010
PlacitasRoy wrote:
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Same friggin' reason Blacks would have not bee conductive to the close quarters functional of the military....raw & rank illogical prejudice and hate.
There is not one single god reason for keeping the volunteers from serving their country if the are qualified. I'd be a hell of a lot more comfortable with some gays on board a ship, in a barracks, or in a foxhole than a bunch of red-neck racist crackers.
we've already established your a scum bag illegal immigrant, so go back to where ever you came from and take one of your relatives under each arm. you wouldn't have the guts to serve your country, you've already abandoned it stooge.
Rey

AOL

#22 Aug 13, 2010
Well, Mary, dont you think, you should have waited for the results of the survey before casting general characterizations?

The good of the service is to have the most qualified and fit for duty.

Like I said, gays have been in the service for many years and the service is still intact and rated as the best in the world.

Discretion and appropriate conduct are the key, nobody needs to know anyone's personal buisness, Gay or Hetero.
TxRngr

El Paso, TX

#23 Aug 13, 2010
Mary wrote:
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I think he would get a 'blanket party'.
I tend to agree. Wonder how long it will take him to Google "Blanket Party"?
TxRngr

El Paso, TX

#25 Aug 13, 2010
PlacitasRoy wrote:
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One of the best experiences and longest lasting lessons I gained from my 3+ years in the service was how miserable, worthless, and gutless red-neck racist crackers were/are.
You frequently confirm the validity of those experiences and lessons. That's why you can't handle this old gray beard white guy who has no tolerance for red-neck racist crackers calling you **** out..
That highly qualified smart West Point cadet would kick your **** and laugh while doing it.
More lies from FlacidBoy. There is no way you last 3+ years in the navy being a racists. BALD FACE LIAR!!!
Gran Torino

Sacramento, CA

#26 Aug 13, 2010
UCSC sounds like a perfect place for her to land.
Local

Newburgh, NY

#27 Aug 13, 2010
PlacitasRoy wrote:
<quoted text>One of the best experiences and longest lasting lessons I gained from my 3+ years in the service was how miserable, worthless, and gutless red-neck racist crackers were/are.
You frequently confirm the validity of those experiences and lessons. That's why you can't handle this old gray beard white guy who has no tolerance for red-neck racist crackers calling you ass out..
That's funny because my 5 years in the Navy validated all the stereotypes I had always heard about blacks.
yoDaddy

San Antonio, TX

#28 Aug 13, 2010
Jeff Spangler wrote:
DADT will eventually be changed or abandoned because it's a generational issue. The two points which I think are quite wrong in the debate are:(1) the military is _not_ required to mirror prevailing or progressive values in civil society; and (2) no soldier is compelled to lie about anything-- simply not to discuss an issue which is totally irrelevant to the military mission. I believe there are a significant percentage of gays who are "ego-dystonic homosexuals", which remains a disorder in the APA's DSM after it was revised to split homosexuality into "ego-syntonic" (not a disorder) and ego-dystonic (which is). I doubt that many gays are ever evaluated by competent psychiatrists to identify which they are, but some are still diseased, not simply "differently sexed".
WHAT A Crock!!!!!!!!
Watsonville Local

Santa Cruz, CA

#29 Aug 13, 2010
Local wrote:
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That's funny because my 5 years in the Navy validated all the stereotypes I had always heard about blacks.
I agree, boy ain't that the truth.

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