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#757 May 12, 2013
Why would you try and entice a fraud whistle-blower with another scam? Isnt that kinda ridiculous? Anyone that pays a 200% WEEKLY COMMISISON IS RUNNING A PONZI SCHEME......HANDS DOWN!
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Dan

Dallas, TX

#759 Jun 5, 2013
jakster wrote:
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Nice of you to remember the discussion on Chris Hoyt's blog. Yeah, I wonder what ever happened to Elvis and Gary. I like to think that I had some small part in shutting this scam down. It took longer than I ever thought it would but in the end justice was served.
Jakster
Hello Jakster, it's interesting how FHTM turned out over so much debate on Chris Hoyt's blog. Elvis and Gary Schonne tried so hard to stand up for the company. In the end, they quit before the company was shut down by the FTC. They never practice what they preached I guess. Elvis appears to have joined ACN, and for Gary, not sure. It's funny how the Forbes mag never true and the company never grew 59% year over year. This time Fortune did not pass again.

Elvis said this about FHTM in 2008

"FHTM is growing at an established rate of 59% year over year. This is an empirical fact, not some mindless arbitrary statement of claim."

and then...

"This is why the FTC, the FCC, the SEC or anything ending with a “C” has not, nor will they ever think about shutting down FHTM cause it simply is not a pyramid." Elvis

I don't think Elvis will ever say he was wrong.
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#760 Jun 6, 2013
Dan - you are so right. I have been searching the internet for comments made by ex-FHTM cronies who apologized for their misguided thoughts and cant seem to find any.
Dan

Dallas, TX

#761 Jun 6, 2013
skapegoat follower wrote:
Dan - you are so right. I have been searching the internet for comments made by ex-FHTM cronies who apologized for their misguided thoughts and cant seem to find any.
It's hard for people to admit they was wrong. They believed so much in Paul and his business. Lies was told over and over so much that people believed there was no way the business could be a pyramid scheme.

Elvis (aka on topix FPA) and Gary would always make faulty arguments which made anything they said untrustworthy, but for someone new to the scam, they would not know the difference in their faulty arguments and fall to the deception.

I'm not sure on this but it seems the Judge will ask for millions back. I know other pyramid schemes, if a rep made over a certain amount of money like $5,000 or more than $10,000, they will be asking for that back. I feel sorry for those top leaders that made hundreds of thousands of dollars, because there is no way they have it to pay it back.
Former FHTMer

West Plains, MO

#762 Jun 8, 2013
Network Marketing Success wrote:
Thank God for Fortune Hi Tech Marketing. I'm a successful Realtor, Real Estate Investor, Electronics business owner, and I frankly don't have much time. I was approached in October of 2007 with FHTM, and was skeptical, mainly because I had tried MLM programs in the past. This seemed so much different, so I cautiously joined. In just 30 days, I was promoted and started making REAL money. I was shocked, and frankly still am, because I had never made any real money in those other companies. Thank you and God bless you to those people who started this company and have helped me and continue to help me to be successful and earn real money.
Ya... I joined back when the boom of FHTM took place with a promise that I would get help from those in my up-line. I received no help and saw that everyone that was in the buisiness was there to help themselves. I had no money and stated that I didn't have the money before I joined. But I was promised that I would get the help I needed to launch my buisiness. Here I am several years later just as broke with no promises kept.
wondering

Huntington, WV

#765 Jul 8, 2013
Who really knows if the ex PA's and other leaders will have to pay it back? Is there precedence?
Dan

Dallas, TX

#767 Jul 31, 2013
ACN is a lot like FHTM. Check out the same kind of rhetoric the reps are making on youtube.



I bet if the FTC financial expert checked out ACN they will see it's just like FHTM.
Dave

Edmonton, Canada

#771 May 18, 2014
Dave

Edmonton, Canada

#772 May 18, 2014
Network Marketing Success wrote:
Thank God for Fortune Hi Tech Marketing. I'm a successful Realtor, Real Estate Investor, Electronics business owner, and I frankly don't have much time. I was approached in October of 2007 with FHTM, and was skeptical, mainly because I had tried MLM programs in the past. This seemed so much different, so I cautiously joined. In just 30 days, I was promoted and started making REAL money. I was shocked, and frankly still am, because I had never made any real money in those other companies. Thank you and God bless you to those people who started this company and have helped me and continue to help me to be successful and earn real money.
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FHTM illegal

Dallas, TX

#773 May 19, 2014
What does this mean for MLM/ network marketing? Many companies that use the same model as FHTM are next!

"After conducting its own investigation, the court-appointed receiver determined that FHTM’s main business was recruiting new members and not selling products and services as it claimed, and confirmed the allegations made by the FTC and the states. The overwhelming majority of participants – more than 98 percent – lost more money than they ever made. At least 88 percent of consumers did not even recoup their enrollment fees. To the extent that consumers could make any income, it was mainly for recruiting other consumers into FHTM’s scheme. More than 81 percent of the payments to participants were based on recruiting new members and not for the sale of products or services. Not surprisingly, at least 94 percent of consumers did not renew their membership after their initial year." Source:(May 13th 2014 FTC website) http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases...

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