Cops are military too

Norwood, MO

#1 Nov 6, 2013
So I started wondering, is our society unknowingly responsible for further allowing a rape victim to feel a sense of shame. A lot animals reproduce by non-consensual sex, this is found throughout the animal kingdom. However has humans we have developed an emotional attachment to the act, and to each other. Rape among humans is very wrong, in many ways, mental, physical, emotional, it crosses so many lines people have morally, physically, legally. However we protect the act, and receptively verbalize how sick and degrading such an act is. We call it immoral, dirty, several things. I believe this is true, but only for the one who committed the crime. Because of the way the crime is protected and viewed and treated as society makes the victim feel further shame. We think cannibalism is wrong in our society, but there are some whom think this is fine, we think in America sexual relations with a minor if you are not, but other places marry teens and adults often. I am not saying these are correct views, but because of how everyone treats them as a group they are socially excepted by that group. I however justify in no way, shape, or form that rape should be a socially accepted act among us, we have attachments to the act, to others, and the ability to understand life and death and physical danger, and the attachment to this life. We have the ability to feel compassion for others and our selves, and attach these to several things, and they effects touch us on a real notable level. We should stop as a society calling the act shameful, dirty, wrong, and start seeing it and the people involved for whom and what it is. It naturally occurs in nature, the act itself is not dirty. This sounds very wrong because emotionally we see it as this. But the act is not, however it is a violation, because we KNOW the difference of wanted relations, we have the ability and the desires to want sexual relations. Other species are not always made to enjoy intercourse, this is why though natural in nature it occurs. As humans, there is no logically need for anyone to force themselves on another. The act of the crime is a violation of law, and that persons rights. I say the rapist not only decided to violate this law, but they only done such because of their personal reasons and desires. That is not right and is indeed an infringement on rights, for it was only based on their desire, their wants, not the whole of the the involved. She was clearly so desired by another that they broke the law to commit an act. She should be applauded for being so desirable, not told wow you poor thing, what a bad thing to live with, how dirty an act on you. Hell no, that makes her feel bad, she's already been crossed physically and mentally, and as a society we are attacking her more mentally, though not on purpose, we do. It is like fighting a "war" on "war". It just adds to the problem even with the best on intentions. She should be considered a hero for living threw and fighting for her rights, her justice, she should be rewarded for the act, praised for her body, and will to live, and rewarded something for this unlawful act. She should not be made by society to feel shame if she becomes pregnant during such an act, what a horrible reminder to live with for 9 months, really?! Cause that is going to help her?!
Cops are military too

Norwood, MO

#2 Nov 6, 2013
How dare us! She should be told, what a beautiful thing to come out of such a "crime". Not what a horrible burden to come out of such shame. Really? How dare us, but that is what we have done. I think she should be looked at as beautiful, desired, brave, strong, and a hero for defending our rights when speaking out! Most crimes of rape go unreported because the woman is made to further feel shame, not just because of the act, but after as she sees how we as a society view her and the act, that was not even her choice. Truth is, the only one who should feel shame from out society is the one who committed the crime. Not only could that person not mentally control and physical desire, making them, sorry, not that bright, but so undesirable to others or such person that they have to force themselves on them. What a gross immoral, dirty, unwanted, ignorant, unstable, person, whom does not hold others rights the same as theirs. He should be imprisoned, and should be the only we shame for his acts, but often their buddies, high five them, say wow, can you believe what you got away with, she totally had it coming, did you see how she dressed, oh she loved me. Perhaps if we started treating it different as a whole it would be a better outcome, the rapist would feel more deserved shame, the victim less, and if by slim chance there is a baby, it would be seen as a beautiful thing from a bad situation, not the carriers dirty unwanted shame. She sex was unwanted, the act was unwanted, it does not make the baby a shame, nor does the body see it as unwanted once it passes entry. The woman and if there is a child, are beautiful things that came out of it, and should be treated as such more often. The act is unwanted simply, not shameful on her part at all, but we view it as so, and treat it that way and we do not even mean to. The act should only be seen as an act of shame, guilt, etc for the one who committed it, all other parties had no say. And I say not only would woman speak out more if this was to happen, men would slowly start looking at their buddies as wrong more often, that is how a society works. That is why things go in and out of fashion, views chance, etc.... I also say start making the punishment greater, if it was greater the crime would be looked at worse, and if a child did come out of it, that man should have to pay that child until the 18th year life all the men who the woman "WANTED"...yes you sure as hell should pay if you were not even wanted in the first place. I also believe not only should be crime be more punishable, but since the rapist went against her personal rights, he should have to pay her for an extended period of time etc, or life/ perhaps I dunno 18years is fair since you made someone take a risk of reproduction against their will period (though I don't think that would go over, since murder is only 25yr term)....but they should not label it with the child as child support, because you have no right to that kid, and child support by terms gives some legal say for the most part, I think it should be listed as a something to show the crime, so they are reminded of why they pay, and what they done themselves and society it too...might make it occur less, it the rapist felt the shame and greater punishment, if a child molester has to report, you should too....it is unwanted just the same
Cops are military too

Norwood, MO

#3 Nov 6, 2013
How come only half my post worked?
Cops are military too

Norwood, MO

#4 Nov 6, 2013
1st 1/2:


So I started wondering, is our society unknowingly responsible for further allowing a rape victim to feel a sense of shame. A lot animals reproduce by non-consensual sex, this is found throughout the animal kingdom. However has humans we have developed an emotional attachment to the act, and to each other. Rape among humans is very wrong, in many ways, mental, physical, emotional, it crosses so many lines people have morally, physically, legally. However we protect the act, and receptively verbalize how sick and degrading such an act is. We call it immoral, dirty, several things. I believe this is true, but only for the one who committed the crime. Because of the way the crime is protected and viewed and treated as society makes the victim feel further shame. We think cannibalism is wrong in our society, but there are some whom think this is fine, we think in America sexual relations with a minor if you are not, but other places marry teens and adults often. I am not saying these are correct views, but because of how everyone treats them as a group they are socially excepted by that group. I however justify in no way, shape, or form that rape should be a socially accepted act among us, we have attachments to the act, to others, and the ability to understand life and death and physical danger, and the attachment to this life. We have the ability to feel compassion for others and our selves, and attach these to several things, and they effects touch us on a real notable level. We should stop as a society calling the act shameful, dirty, wrong, and start seeing it and the people involved for whom and what it is. It naturally occurs in nature, the act itself is not dirty. This sounds very wrong because emotionally we see it as this. But the act is not, however it is a violation, because we KNOW the difference of wanted relations, we have the ability and the desires to want sexual relations. Other species are not always made to enjoy intercourse, this is why though natural in nature it occurs. As humans, there is no logically need for anyone to force themselves on another. The act of the crime is a violation of law, and that persons rights. I say the rapist not only decided to violate this law, but they only done such because of their personal reasons and desires. That is not right and is indeed an infringement on rights, for it was only based on their desire, their wants, not the whole of the the involved. She was clearly so desired by another that they broke the law to commit an act. She should be applauded for being so desirable, not told wow you poor thing, what a bad thing to live with, how dirty an act on you. Hell no, that makes her feel bad, she's already been crossed physically and mentally, and as a society we are attacking her more mentally, though not on purpose, we do. It is like fighting a "war" on "war". It just adds to the problem even with the best on intentions. She should be considered a hero for living threw and fighting for her rights, her justice, she should be rewarded for the act, praised for her body, and will to live, and rewarded something for this unlawful act. She should not be made by society to feel shame if she becomes pregnant during such an act, what a horrible reminder to live with for 9 months, really?! Cause that is going to help her?!
Cops are military too

Norwood, MO

#5 Nov 6, 2013
wow I have a lot of typos, I never re-read crap...if I knew how to delete or edit post, if you can i'd resubmit it, but yeah I don't
tim

Kansas City, MO

#6 Nov 6, 2013
Cops are military too wrote:
wow I have a lot of typos, I never re-read crap...if I knew how to delete or edit post, if you can i'd resubmit it, but yeah
Law in nothing more than the societies overall moral conscience. As for rape it is not about some deep seated premortal urge that we have somehow evolved beyond. It is about the need of one person to excert dominance over another for a range of different reasons mostly to compensate for some inadequacy of there own.
It is a shame how this crime victumizes the person seeking justice and while bad here its worst in places like India and the middle east where womans rights are suppressed.
Cops are military too

Norwood, MO

#7 Nov 6, 2013
I never said that is why it happens I said we are above that and to allow a desire to overwhelm your ability to abide by law, you are probably an idiot I know other places are sad but we do not live there...out outlook and how we treat it could be handled better as a whole

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