Suicide pact at wphs
Daisy girl

Ava, MO

#82 Dec 18, 2012
I didn't say that I was against gun laws, I'm against mass destructive arms in the hands of average people who don't need them. Please read carefully the whole point before rambling on judgement ally and abusively with your one track mind. Obama will be banning rifle ownership and sales to those who clearly don't need them. This ban was in the constrictional right of arms but expired in 2004 and will be placed again as promised in his previous election. It's too late for sandy hook elementary and many others isn't it? Why would you need a rifle anyway other than for hunting wild game,or killing wild animals for protection. Now before you ramble on again people are the problem, mental health need to be addressed more, media needs to be controlled,parents need educate and shield their kids from habitual violent exposure. People need to be kinder and less judgemental and less sensitive. We need to be heard and listen more. Most people these days are too busy and look the other way. Instead of attacking me why don't you try and help society find a better solution,so that we can all feel a little safer.
sheepdog

Columbia, MO

#84 Dec 18, 2012
Daisy girl wrote:
I didn't say that I was against gun laws, I'm against mass destructive arms in the hands of average people who don't need them. Please read carefully the whole point before rambling on judgement ally and abusively with your one track mind. Obama will be banning rifle ownership and sales to those who clearly don't need them. This ban was in the constrictional right of arms but expired in 2004 and will be placed again as promised in his previous election. It's too late for sandy hook elementary and many others isn't it? Why would you need a rifle anyway other than for hunting wild game,or killing wild animals for protection. Now before you ramble on again people are the problem, mental health need to be addressed more, media needs to be controlled,parents need educate and shield their kids from habitual violent exposure. People need to be kinder and less judgemental and less sensitive. We need to be heard and listen more. Most people these days are too busy and look the other way. Instead of attacking me why don't you try and help society find a better solution,so that we can all feel a little safer.
Where do you draw the line? How would you determine who "clearly" doesn't need a rifle? Are you aware that the ban that expired in 04 had no significant impact on gun violence?
sheepdog

Fairfax, VA

#85 Dec 19, 2012
I like Greene Co. Sheriff Arnott's theory. The answer may in fact be MORE guns. He advocates teachers and school staff having some good old fashioned training and a concealed weapon on their person.
daisygirl

Columbia, MO

#86 Dec 19, 2012
bubba and sheepdog...youve both outlined and proved to me what ive been trying to communicate all along. the regualtion on arms cant just generalise. its like generalising regulations on drugs.there are many types and uses for arms weapons just as there are for drugs. this anomly may help understand the fact that there are more or less degrees of harm and solution caused by arms and drugs. its where people are at fault when they start to abuse the objects they have in hand. since we are unable to place individual control on people then we need to do something that will at least make it more controlled in a epidemic and feasable way. I suggest starting with mass destructive weopans being removed from the general lay person and being adhered to under firm control and liscenure to certain people who NEED them for occupation and protection purposes. Off the top of my head comes military, agricultural, and wild related occupations. i just cant understand why a suburban person living in civilisation with law enforecement to protect us would need a mass destructive weopan. shot guns should do enough maybe even more damage in order to protect. its not like there is a mass crowd going around victimising homes or people. unfortunately its become the opposite. i really bleed for those victims and their families,i could and would never imagine being in their situation and want to ensure that this is not another unfortunate spectacular event printed in history and nothings done about ir.if teachers keep arms on premises it may work bur it may also backfire, what if theyre not locked up properly or stolen from a kid.we need strict control on where and how arms are stored in order for this to be acceptable. anyway i wish all victims families of tradegy the strength to go on with their shattered lives and hope that this level of violence subsided in american society.
sheepdog

Fairfax, VA

#87 Dec 19, 2012
daisygirl wrote:
bubba and sheepdog...youve both outlined and proved to me what ive been trying to communicate all along. the regualtion on arms cant just generalise. its like generalising regulations on drugs.there are many types and uses for arms weapons just as there are for drugs. this anomly may help understand the fact that there are more or less degrees of harm and solution caused by arms and drugs. its where people are at fault when they start to abuse the objects they have in hand. since we are unable to place individual control on people then we need to do something that will at least make it more controlled in a epidemic and feasable way. I suggest starting with mass destructive weopans being removed from the general lay person and being adhered to under firm control and liscenure to certain people who NEED them for occupation and protection purposes. Off the top of my head comes military, agricultural, and wild related occupations. i just cant understand why a suburban person living in civilisation with law enforecement to protect us would need a mass destructive weopan. shot guns should do enough maybe even more damage in order to protect. its not like there is a mass crowd going around victimising homes or people. unfortunately its become the opposite. i really bleed for those victims and their families,i could and would never imagine being in their situation and want to ensure that this is not another unfortunate spectacular event printed in history and nothings done about ir.if teachers keep arms on premises it may work bur it may also backfire, what if theyre not locked up properly or stolen from a kid.we need strict control on where and how arms are stored in order for this to be acceptable. anyway i wish all victims families of tradegy the strength to go on with their shattered lives and hope that this level of violence subsided in american society.
These were not "mass destructive weapons". Technically it wasn't an "assault rifle". Those are terms that just start to make my blood boil. My next favorite is "high powered rifle". The weapons used in CT are not really significant in any way. There is nothing about them mechanically or design-wise than many other firearms readily and commonly accepted for sporting purposes. Oh wait, one thing. They are black and the news told you they were bad.
I agree that something's need to change. I think your looking in the wrong direction to make an impact though.

Since: Dec 12

West Plains, MO

#88 Dec 19, 2012
parents need to keep their weapons locked up and they need to check their kids before they leave the house and if they aren't able to do that they need to have detectors at the doors at the schools. How many school shootings are going to happen before they actually do something about it. Don't take guns away from people because esp around this area a lot of people hunt. And I am not opposed to people having a drug test done before they can even buy a gun. Because drugs and alcohol don't mix with weapons I had an aunt that shot and killed herself because she was drunk. I just think they need to have different protocol before anyone can buy a weapon and schools need different protocol before anyone even walks in the door. And I don't believe all of this is happening just because of the fear of the end of the world because once someone puts their minds to it, it's going to happen regardless the day it's just an excuse at the moment. So the government shouldn't take away guns just make a law where you have to meet more expectations before being able to and if you have kids you have to have gun case and keep it locked up.
Daisy girl

Ava, MO

#89 Dec 19, 2012
Sheepdog you're most likely right, there are many angels to look at this frustrating issue. I agree with crazygirl we need to do something to actively protect innocent civilians who are ESP. Defenceless.
IsawItAll

Ozark, MO

#90 Dec 19, 2012
crazygirl1615 wrote:
parents need to keep their weapons locked up and they need to check their kids before they leave the house and if they aren't able to do that they need to have detectors at the doors at the schools. How many school shootings are going to happen before they actually do something about it. Don't take guns away from people because esp around this area a lot of people hunt. And I am not opposed to people having a drug test done before they can even buy a gun. Because drugs and alcohol don't mix with weapons I had an aunt that shot and killed herself because she was drunk. I just think they need to have different protocol before anyone can buy a weapon and schools need different protocol before anyone even walks in the door. And I don't believe all of this is happening just because of the fear of the end of the world because once someone puts their minds to it, it's going to happen regardless the day it's just an excuse at the moment. So the government shouldn't take away guns just make a law where you have to meet more expectations before being able to and if you have kids you have to have gun case and keep it locked up.
what ever happened too beating the shit out of your kids with a belt or 2x4 or frying pan or peach switch or fist if and when they even think about doing something stupid?
sheepdog

Columbia, MO

#91 Dec 19, 2012
Thanks. I would like for everyone to take a breath and be a little more objective. Before you can fix anything you have to identify to the root cause of what's broke.

Here is a fitting quote from a familiar name.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.- Benjamin Franklin
beging you

United States

#92 Dec 19, 2012
As a parent, I'm begging you all to drop this. The kids can't get over this,and let it go, if all the adults don't just drop it,at least in front of them.
sheepdog

Columbia, MO

#93 Dec 20, 2012
I'm sorry that you feel this way. I too have children. I have not felt that they should get over it though. I have had several discussions and conversations with them about the realities of the world they live in. I sleep better at night and breathe easier during the day knowing that they have an understanding of their surroundings and is step one in keeping them safe.
JustWondering

Mansfield, MO

#94 Dec 20, 2012
IsawItAll wrote:
<quoted text>what ever happened too beating the shit out of your kids with a belt or 2x4 or frying pan or peach switch or fist if and when they even think about doing something stupid?
That's called child abuse. Wow. Unbeilevable.
FUall

Ozark, MO

#95 Dec 20, 2012
beging you wrote:
As a parent, I'm begging you all to drop this. The kids can't get over this,and let it go, if all the adults don't just drop it,at least in front of them.
When you drop the threats or reality of our times too your children is when a stupid kid does something stupid. The whole town should talk about this subject everyday to all the kids to let the children know this crap is bad and wrong and will not be accepted in this area and doesn't solve any problems but just creates more problems and doesn't prove anything to anyone and is not normal in anyway. You lefty parents, lets just talk about everything to a child is the reason the youth are doing the things they are doing today in schools. There is nothing wrong and it's not abuse to smack your kids with a belt to teach them right from wrong when they do something wrong.
FUall

Ozark, MO

#96 Dec 20, 2012
JustWondering wrote:
<quoted text>
That's called child abuse. Wow. Unbeilevable.
No it's not! It's child abuse to not beat your children when they are bad. And if anyone has a problem with what I think then F-U and I can smack you around.
WarriorDeborah

Canada

#97 Dec 20, 2012
FUall wrote:
<quoted text> No it's not! It's child abuse to not beat your children when they are bad. And if anyone has a problem with what I think then F-U and I can smack you around.
If you trained your kids from day one with respect, logic and confidence, you would not have to beat them to make them listen. Bet your dogs are insecure, too.
HELLO

Sparta, MO

#98 Dec 20, 2012
Ivanstead wrote:
You cant stop someone from taking their own life. You can try all you want to find a solution to stop it but it is inevitable unless they get a grip. This is why the authorities normally wait until it happens.Why do you think there is a suicide hotline? These kids can only help themselves.Besides,if someone wants to take their own life,they dont need a gun to do it. Theres other ways to carry it out. Cutting wrists,Jumping,Immolation,Hang ing,Ingesting poison,Vehicular,suffocation,o r theres takin a huge dose of potassium chloride which causes heart failure. No one can really prevent someone from doing it. Yeah,you can intervene,but the moment you turn around again is when you they're dead,because they'll be even more dedicated and pissed after you've tried to "help" them. If they dont want to live,they dont want to live. Not a damn thing you can do about it.The problem is in their head.Just because you're in High School doesn't mean you're smarter then the rest of us. We weren't all born yesterday. To be old and wise,you must first be young,dumb,and full of cumb.
Did you just watch and episode of criminal intent for the potassium chloride??? SERIOUSLY!!! Then just don't let your kids go to school if everyone is that worried, but the parents need to stay home with them. Their your children nobody Else's. You have to worry about your own, so they may not have perfect antecedence but do what you think needs to be done. But while people are freaking out about the world ending, what about the Y2K. People are nuts nothing happened in 2000 and maybe these kids are too young and don't remember that but maybe these parents need to educate their children so there not going to be the ones trying to be another statistic.
HELLO

Sparta, MO

#99 Dec 20, 2012
attendance**
very concerned parent

New York, NY

#100 Dec 20, 2012
The threats were real people! The police station has been trying to tell everyonee the investigation wasnt really over and it wasnt just a flash mob! http://ozarkareanetwork.com/localnews/...
FUall

Ozark, MO

#101 Dec 20, 2012
WarriorDeborah wrote:
<quoted text>If you trained your kids from day one with respect, logic and confidence, you would not have to beat them to make them listen. Bet your dogs are insecure, too.
shut up ho. You don't train a kid you teach a child, punk ass ho.
sheepdog

Fairfax, VA

#103 Dec 20, 2012
FUall wrote:
<quoted text>shut up ho. You don't train a kid you teach a child, punk ass ho.
Teach-train, instruct-educate, po tay tow-po tah tow. Jackass

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