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JiminyCrickets

Ava, MO

#1 Dec 10, 2013
I hear some of the local schools are putting on a religious musical, which only involves Christian music and ideology. Ever wanted to get paid on a lawsuit? Here it is! Not that I am against any religion,but I believe in separation of church and state and Constitutional rights and feel this is most certainly proselytizing. Performance is mandatory for the grade,too!
Church Lady

Ozark, MO

#2 Dec 10, 2013
JiminyCrickets wrote:
I hear some of the local schools are putting on a religious musical, which only involves Christian music and ideology. Ever wanted to get paid on a lawsuit? Here it is! Not that I am against any religion,but I believe in separation of church and state and Constitutional rights and feel this is most certainly proselytizing. Performance is mandatory for the grade,too!
Gee...I wonder who prompted you to type such a anti-religious comment. Hmmm...? I wonder. Who could it possible be? Let me take a stab at it. Could it have been...I don't know...SATAN???!!!
JiminyCrickets

Ava, MO

#3 Dec 10, 2013
Church Lady wrote:
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Gee...I wonder who prompted you to type such a anti-religious comment. Hmmm...? I wonder. Who could it possible be? Let me take a stab at it. Could it have been...I don't know...SATAN???!!!
No. It was the spirit of Thomas Jefferson who made me do it.
oh brother

United States

#4 Dec 10, 2013
Who cares ! Everyone who shuts the founder of America out of their lives is going to rewarded greatly with karma ( wrath ). Might want to reconsider who your messing with . The law nor rights is going to save you when you get the higher power mad enough . Outta mark my words while your ahead . Trust me it won't be the Christians to worry about not even their prayers are going to save you . If the world can believe in fictional garbage like zombies , Aliens , Bigfoot and what not and force it down children's throats you might try introducing something real for a change before actual trouble strikes .
JiminyCrickets

Ava, MO

#5 Dec 11, 2013
oh brother wrote:
Who cares ! Everyone who shuts the founder of America out of their lives is going to rewarded greatly with karma ( wrath ). Might want to reconsider who your messing with . The law nor rights is going to save you when you get the higher power mad enough . Outta mark my words while your ahead . Trust me it won't be the Christians to worry about not even their prayers are going to save you . If the world can believe in fictional garbage like zombies , Aliens , Bigfoot and what not and force it down children's throats you might try introducing something real for a change before actual trouble strikes .
If they do not include other religions and secular songs or whatever, it is against the law and unconstitutional.It also opens the door for nuttier religions to get in, like Wicca or Satanism. The schools cannot say yes to one and no to the others. They can, but they can get their asses sued over it.
god is lame

Chestnutridge, MO

#6 Dec 24, 2013
oh brother wrote:
Who cares ! Everyone who shuts the founder of America out of their lives is going to rewarded greatly with karma ( wrath ). Might want to reconsider who your messing with . The law nor rights is going to save you when you get the higher power mad enough . Outta mark my words while your ahead . Trust me it won't be the Christians to worry about not even their prayers are going to save you . If the world can believe in fictional garbage like zombies , Aliens , Bigfoot and what not and force it down children's throats you might try introducing something real for a change before actual trouble strikes .
so taunting god will get me in real trouble with god? like if I say something bad about god he'll personally come get me? god sucks. how about that? feel free to keep checking in with me, I'll let you all know if I he smites me.
tim

Murphysboro, IL

#7 Dec 24, 2013
JiminyCrickets wrote:
I hear some of the local schools are putting on a religious musical, which only involves Christian music and ideology. Ever wanted to get paid on a lawsuit? Here it is! Not that I am against any religion,but I believe in separation of church and state and Constitutional rights and feel this is most certainly proselytizing. Performance is mandatory for the grade,too!
Right there with you on the separation of church and state but this is very different thing and feel free to file all the lawsuits you want but be prepared to pay the court costs when you are done because its a loser due to the cultural education value of such plays and musicals courts have always held it to be educational. Additionally courts will also uphold students right to freedom of religion so you beat on both fronts. But you can always move to china if you dont like it. Merry Christmas :)
tim

Murphysboro, IL

#8 Dec 24, 2013
god is lame wrote:
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so taunting god will get me in real trouble with god? like if I say something bad about god he'll personally come get me? god sucks. how about that? feel free to keep checking in with me, I'll let you all know if I he smites me.
he also controls karma so keep on going with that
Monie

West Plains, MO

#9 Dec 26, 2013
JiminyCrickets wrote:
<quoted text>If they do not include other religions and secular songs or whatever, it is against the law and unconstitutional.It also opens the door for nuttier religions to get in, like Wicca or Satanism. The schools cannot say yes to one and no to the others. They can, but they can get their asses sued over it.
Jesus loves you anyway even though you are a poop. He will be glorified and use you regardless of what you think or do. Since He created you just breathing glorifies Him. Merry Christmas and much hope to you in Christ!
education

Sparta, MO

#10 Dec 26, 2013
JiminyCrickets wrote:
I hear some of the local schools are putting on a religious musical, which only involves Christian music and ideology. Ever wanted to get paid on a lawsuit? Here it is! Not that I am against any religion,but I believe in separation of church and state and Constitutional rights and feel this is most certainly proselytizing. Performance is mandatory for the grade,too!
Where is separation of Church & state found in our Constitution? It's not...public schools "are teaching children that there is separation of church and state, and I am here to tell you that is a myth.

Communities should be allowed to express their views so long as citizens are not being coerced by the government(schools), to subscribe to specific ideologies.
Anono

Yates Center, KS

#11 Dec 26, 2013
education wrote:
<quoted text> Where is separation of Church & state found in our Constitution? It's not...public schools "are teaching children that there is separation of church and state, and I am here to tell you that is a myth.
Communities should be allowed to express their views so long as citizens are not being coerced by the government(schools), to subscribe to specific ideologies.
Where is separation of Church & state found in our Constitution? In the First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

And yes Communities should be allowed to express their views just not in a state institution like schools.

But that is not what is happening here anyways as long as they do not specify or promote a certain denomination it falls under cultural education and is perfectly legal.
education

Ava, MO

#12 Dec 26, 2013
Anono wrote:
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Where is separation of Church & state found in our Constitution? In the First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.
And yes Communities should be allowed to express their views just not in a state institution like schools.
But that is not what is happening here anyways as long as they do not specify or promote a certain denomination it falls under cultural education and is perfectly legal.
you must not be able to read: where is "separation of Church & state" found in our Constitution... it's not...preventing the govt' from establishing a national religion is in the 1st amendment, but not SEPARATION of Church & state....

Reflection our country’s history, fifty three of the founding fathers who signed the Declaration of Independence were committed evangelical Christians. The foundations of this country started with Christianity, and this just goes back and acknowledges where we started.
For someone to get upset with the country’s historical roots…you can’t change history, you can’t change truth."

and does Missouri law forbid this, since the U.S. Constitution does not? Nope, not there either.

the Missouri Constitution was amended to ensure:
That the right of Missouri citizens to express their religious beliefs shall not be infringed; &
That school children have the right to pray and acknowledge God voluntarily in their schools;
Wanda

Forsyth, MO

#13 Dec 27, 2013
Make the world a better place!All kids should be praying in school before all meals or snack and taking Christian religious study at for an hour a day.Science could be replaced with bible stories because science is just opinionated,false theories that can not be proven and of no use in the real world.Girls should be in home ec from K and up.Get rid of sex ed. and cheerleading which is just a complete disgrace against the God's word and completely promotes impure females and lusttfulness in the boys.Girls should not be wearing things between their legs and should be dressed properly in long skirts and with their hair coverd as th instructs.They should probably be schooled in a seperate room away from the boys as well, so that they are allowed to speak openly .
Qwerty

West Plains, MO

#14 Dec 27, 2013
I guess having internet service would be out if the question.
tim

United States

#15 Dec 27, 2013
education wrote:
<quoted text> you must not be able to read: where is "separation of Church & state" found in our Constitution... it's not...preventing the govt' from establishing a national religion is in the 1st amendment, but not SEPARATION of Church & state....
Reflection our country’s history, fifty three of the founding fathers who signed the Declaration of Independence were committed evangelical Christians. The foundations of this country started with Christianity, and this just goes back and acknowledges where we started.
For someone to get upset with the country’s historical roots…you can’t change history, you can’t change truth."
and does Missouri law forbid this, since the U.S. Constitution does not? Nope, not there either.
the Missouri Constitution was amended to ensure:
That the right of Missouri citizens to express their religious beliefs shall not be infringed; &
That school children have the right to pray and acknowledge God voluntarily in their schools;
Making a play on a vernacular (Jefferson's metaphor) doesn't change the 1st amendment meaning or its intent it provides for "SEPARATION of Church & state". But as I stated earlier that is not what is going on in this case. As for the mo. constitutions 2nd amendment in the end it has little impact on this treads main issue because it only affirms the us 1st by asserting that mo schools can not force a particular religious denomination. In fact it just strengthens my original post. Religious expression is not the issue here in fact it comes down to one person mad about a school play which they can not be required to participate in in the first place (doubt they realize that though).
god is lame

Branson, MO

#16 Dec 30, 2013
god is lame wrote:
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so taunting god will get me in real trouble with god? like if I say something bad about god he'll personally come get me? god sucks. how about that? feel free to keep checking in with me, I'll let you all know if I he smites me.
still no smiting here. huh. I'm a little disappointed. my "karma" (another non-existent thing) seems fine too, for what little that's worth. pretty impotent for a god.
Supreme Court Ruler

Ava, MO

#17 Dec 30, 2013
god is lame wrote:
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still no smiting here. huh. I'm a little disappointed. my "karma" (another non-existent thing) seems fine too, for what little that's worth. pretty impotent for a god.
No amount of reasoning will erase from the human heart, the God-given conviction that there is a Supreme Being; those who theoretically deny God's existence, replace Him with something else. The existence of God need not be proved to anyone of morally sound mind.
tim

Lenexa, KS

#18 Dec 30, 2013
god is lame wrote:
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still no smiting here. huh. I'm a little disappointed. my "karma" (another non-existent thing) seems fine too, for what little that's worth. pretty impotent for a god.
your mad at the world and blaming God with your denial what ever has done this to you, it was not God and when (if) you come to terms with things he will be there for you.

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