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CMarchesini

Sacramento, CA

#1 Jan 13, 2012
I question the effectiveness (and integrity) of an organization who employs persons with little or no education in the field for which they offer services.
How can someone fully understand the dynamics of domestic violence, its effects on the family, and offer the needed emotional support & guidance necessary to the victims with nothing more than a highschool diploma and attendance in a 3-hour lecture by MCADSV?
My concern is that this program is nothing more than a temporary solution to a growing problem.
A program staffed by people with educations in Social Services, Human Services, or Family & Youth Services would be a more effective resource for those seeking help.
coyotemuggs

Fordland, MO

#2 Jan 13, 2012
I dont know but if they have that kind of life experience then good.I know that if i needed to talk with someone about a domestic violence of somekind then i would rather talk to the one with experience than some diploma.
CMarchesini

Sacramento, CA

#3 Jan 13, 2012
I can understand wanting to TALK to someone that's been through it.
When it comes to devising a goal/safety plan, connecting your family & children with helpful resources, and guiding you through the hectic judicial process wouldn't you want someone with knowledge and experience in dealing with those?
coyotemuggs

Fordland, MO

#4 Jan 13, 2012
yes.I agree I would want someone with the knowledge.
also

United States

#5 Jan 13, 2012
I'm sure that before these people are released they are offered/given any sort of help they could need. Regardless, without Christo's house there would be a lot of mothers and children still in a bad situation. Without it these people may not get the help they need to stand on their feet again. So far they've done a great job. Educated or not, have u heard any complaints from the people who have had to stay there?
CMarchesini

United States

#6 Jan 13, 2012
That is exactly what prompted my post.
A few of their past residents are now clients of mine.
I am finding that aside from material goods, such as housing deposits & some clothing, this organization does little to prepare these families for life outside of the shelter.
They are often ill-prepared to deal with the stresses of everyday life as the only income earner. They often drop charges against their abusers because facing the system alone is overwhelming. They haven't established long-term goals and defined the steps necessary to reach those goals.
These circumstances send them right back into the arms of their abusers. They are often willing to endure the pain because life is easier when someone else is making the decisions they don't feel prepared to make.

I simply do not see the point of a program that does not follow through with its clients. I understand that part of the shelter experience is providing safety and eventually establishing a new home outside of the shelter. But a failure to provide victims with the personal tools to succeed is disgraceful.
survivor

United States

#7 Jan 13, 2012
I am a survivor of domestic violence. I was given bad advice, pushed into doing things, sent to a lying,two faced lawyer, was lied to by some, scared by some, the people who "helped me and my family" ruined our lives! The people I dealt with, I know now, are very bitter people, who take their inner problems and project them onto, what theyrefer to as "their clients". They had us so scared we were afraid to go out the door. Was told they would take care of our abuser, and we would have a wonderful life. HA what a fkin joke! Listen to someone who's been through this, if your a victim seek help outside this town! It won't be stopped here, you won't truly be helped here. Do not seek a lawyer in this town to help you. It is all a crooked game here, and the ones who were being hurt to start with, will continue to be hurt in some way. That's what this town is known for
also

United States

#8 Jan 14, 2012
I'm sorry that u feel this way about such a helpful organization. If you feel there is something wrong with it, do something about it. Otherwise be thankful there is an option for these women and children.
survivor

United States

#9 Jan 14, 2012
Clarification:::: I was NOT referring to Christos House! Nor was I referring to the people that work at Christos House! I'm speaking of another organization that no longer exists, in whole. The people I was referring to does still exist regaurding DV cases. Christos is a great/safe place to go to get guidance on how to get help out/away from this town! If your in an emergency situation CALL Christos, they will help you!! But don't trust others here to help you, or defend you. There's organizations in other towns/counties that truly will help you. I just found that out too late
Rotter

Mountain View, MO

#10 Jan 14, 2012
CMarchesini wrote:
I question the effectiveness (and integrity) of an organization who employs persons with little or no education in the field for which they offer services.
How can someone fully understand the dynamics of domestic violence, its effects on the family, and offer the needed emotional support & guidance necessary to the victims with nothing more than a highschool diploma and attendance in a 3-hour lecture by MCADSV?
My concern is that this program is nothing more than a temporary solution to a growing problem.
A program staffed by people with educations in Social Services, Human Services, or Family & Youth Services would be a more effective resource for those seeking help.
People with the most education are the most stupid people on the face of the earth. Real life experience is worth so much more. Social workers like teachers don't have to know much to get their degree. Take it from someone who has worked with both, most are dolts and cannot think outside the box they were taught. Everyone is treated the same. Please look up the song Little Boxes, you should love it.
thankful

Sparta, MO

#11 Jan 14, 2012
Any organization like the christos house is better than none. Blame the state for cutting funding like DVERT. The Christos house and DVERT saved my life!
help

United States

#12 Jan 14, 2012
survivor wrote:
Clarification:::: I was NOT referring to Christos House! Nor was I referring to the people that work at Christos House! I'm speaking of another organization that no longer exists, in whole. The people I was referring to does still exist regaurding DV cases. Christos is a great/safe place to go to get guidance on how to get help out/away from this town! If your in an emergency situation CALL Christos, they will help you!! But don't trust others here to help you, or defend you. There's organizations in other towns/counties that truly will help you. I just found that out too late
Thank you for clarifying. I'm glad you appreciate their services. I too once benefited from their generosity. I was the child of a woman who was exposed to domestic violence and I know if it had not been for the people at christo's house, we may not have made it to see this day. I try to give back to their organization as much as I can. I know that every little bit helps with this place. I know they don't get as much recognition as they deserve. Unfortunately this forum was started based on insulting them. Shame on them.
I liked christos house

Ava, MO

#13 Jan 16, 2012
The only thing I did not agree with was so many people would show up for christmas so they could
get all the donations hookups and then with in a day or two a lot would leave . I think its wrong when there are elder people needing a warm shelter to go to and the best place local is all filled by the greedy . I know someone has to know what I am talking about .
Judge

Canada

#14 Jan 16, 2012
thankful wrote:
Any organization like the christos house is better than none. Blame the state for cutting funding like DVERT. The Christos house and DVERT saved my life!
DVERT is a federal program, not state.

Christos House gets the majority of its government support from federal sources also.

Both fill a tremendous need, and I wish we could get the DVERT program back.

Just saying.
thankful

Sparta, MO

#15 Jan 16, 2012
Judge wrote:
<quoted text>DVERT is a federal program, not state.

Christos House gets the majority of its government support from federal sources also.

Both fill a tremendous need, and I wish we could get the DVERT program back.

Just saying.
When they were shutting down the office I was told that the state was the one who did not approve funding to keep them open. I really did no research on this it's just what I was told. Its a shame that the federal government would not think that they were a valuable asset to the citizens with education, support and prevention services for victims and their families.
Judge

Canada

#16 Jan 16, 2012
Yep, funded through the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) and the Violence against Women grant office (VAWGO), both federal programs with only limited funds.
Helped Me

West Plains, MO

#17 Jan 17, 2012
Judge wrote:
Yep, funded through the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) and the Violence against Women grant office (VAWGO), both federal programs with only limited funds.
Six years ago I had to go to Cristo's House for help.The people were everyday people, I have never met more my supporting people in my life.They were there for me all the way through my divorce someone even went to court with me.I myself think that the organization is GREAT! It works if you really want away from your abuser,that part is up to you.
WestPlainSinner

United States

#18 Jan 17, 2012
CMarchesini wrote:
I question the effectiveness (and integrity) of an organization who employs persons with little or no education in the field for which they offer services.
How can someone fully understand the dynamics of domestic violence, its effects on the family, and offer the needed emotional support & guidance necessary to the victims with nothing more than a highschool diploma and attendance in a 3-hour lecture by MCADSV?
My concern is that this program is nothing more than a temporary solution to a growing problem.
A program staffed by people with educations in Social Services, Human Services, or Family & Youth Services would be a more effective resource for those seeking help.
Oh my Oh my. Another over Educated Book Smart Shit Starter. Let me explain something to you. West Plains has this Service and West Plains and Myself are Lucky to have this Service. Why do people feel they can always do the Job better then the next?. A temporary solution to a growing problem?. I beleive back a few Decades ago in this Country that this was a much more serious problem then it is Today with no Services of anykind. Does it not take an ex-Alcaholic to help another Alcaholic stop Drinking?. Yes it does for reasons of that ex-Alcaholic Knows first hand what the other Alcaholic is going through Today tomorrow an Yesterday. A Book Smart Over Educated non Alcaholic would be waisted Time,Money and Effectiveness for this Purpose. I am the West Plains Sinner. I am Thankful for this Service we have in West Plains. I am not an Abuse victom but will Abuse the Abuser if an when I witness this Crime. I also beleive and know all Public Services need Improvement all the Time. HeHaw HeHaw HeHaw.
why

Ozark, MO

#19 Jan 17, 2012
I wish there had been such a place when my kids and I were abused. I have a handicapped daughter and got her into the sheltered workshop at Pomona. If there is any place that abuses the handicapped --it is there. The guy that runs it is a work of art. He hand picks a board of people that think they are supporting something great and do never know the real happenings there. If anyone ever that should go to Hell it should be him.
Survivor

United States

#20 Jan 17, 2012
WestPlainSinner wrote:
<quoted text>Oh my Oh my. Another over Educated Book Smart Shit Starter. Let me explain something to you. West Plains has this Service and West Plains and Myself are Lucky to have this Service. Why do people feel they can always do the Job better then the next?. A temporary solution to a growing problem?. I beleive back a few Decades ago in this Country that this was a much more serious problem then it is Today with no Services of anykind. Does it not take an ex-Alcaholic to help another Alcaholic stop Drinking?. Yes it does for reasons of that ex-Alcaholic Knows first hand what the other Alcaholic is going through Today tomorrow an Yesterday. A Book Smart Over Educated non Alcaholic would be waisted Time,Money and Effectiveness for this Purpose. I am the West Plains Sinner. I am Thankful for this Service we have in West Plains. I am not an Abuse victom but will Abuse the Abuser if an when I witness this Crime. I also beleive and know all Public Services need Improvement all the Time. HeHaw HeHaw HeHaw.
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You are so right! Someone with a "degree" can not relate to a DV victim, only a DV survivor can!! Someone who's lived it, been through it, got out of it!! NO amount of education can compare to experience in this kind of situation. The educated ones always have such a simple resolution for everything, everything is always black or white. Live with and abusor, and see how far an education will get you!

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