This is to the "Pentecostal Holiness"...

This is to the "Pentecostal Holiness" people of the area.

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Ex-Pentecostal

Rogersville, MO

#1 Feb 17, 2011
The Bible says
"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven - Luke 6:37.
In scripture just prior to it talks about being merciful.
John 8:7 says
"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

I have never met a more judgmental group of people than the Pentecostal group from West Plains.
The Bible teaches that we are to live by example and be a light. It also says to be merciful.
I have watched and personally experienced the way that Pentecostal Holiness people treat those who have fallen away from the church. Or anyone that does something that goes against their beliefs.
I've seen people shunned, talked down to, gossiped about, and ignored. This all coming from the people who are supposed to be followers of Christ. Those who lead by example.
A Christian is supposed to be the most kind and merciful person in the world. Lending a hand to those in need, forgiving those who have stumbled, witnessing to the sinners, and above all, being shining examples of Christ's love.
It saddens me. I spent the first 20+ years of my life going to a Holiness church. I'll never return to one.
Because that is not what being a Christian is about. That is not what Jesus is about.
Amen

United States

#2 Feb 17, 2011
I'm pentecostal, and I agree.
amenagain

Hollister, MO

#3 Feb 17, 2011
I completely agree! They think because of the lifestyle and teachings they choose to live by they are better than everyone else yet in my opinion they PUSH every inch they can in their beliefs. I can tell you MANY of those young ladies I have seen wearing skirts and big high heels are revealing FAR more than I ever would or WILL in a pair of pants!! Not too mention for those who are trying to keep "seperate" by their lifestyle, how is it I run into many of them at a local tanning salon as well as the nail shop in town? Yet those SAME people will tell you that you are going to hell because you don't live like they do. Seems hypocritical if you ask me!! I can also tell you this, go to a resturaunt where a group of them are eating and you will hear them amen each other when they are talking crap about other people.
Do Tell

United States

#4 Feb 17, 2011
Not all Pentecostal people are like you are describing. There are people like that in all groups. Just because some people are like that does not mean that all people in that group are the same.
Ex-Pentecostal

Rogersville, MO

#5 Feb 17, 2011
I agree that not "all" are like that. But the majority are...
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#6 Feb 17, 2011
Do Tell wrote:
Not all Pentecostal people are like you are describing. There are people like that in all groups. Just because some people are like that does not mean that all people in that group are the same.
this is so true,,we all beleive in the same GOD,,the same commandments,,the same heaven,,the same hell,,and the knowlage this earth is satans domain,,but yet all churches are as diffrent as there names are,,,after spending many years around these parts,,i have noticed,,most of the churches try an steal other churches members,,like when one of them meet you,,they find out your also a christian and member of a diffrent church,,and still try to get you to come visit there church,,but a christian church is a christian church,,the house of GOD,,,kinds clicky to me,,,i had a landlord rip me off alot of money,,i went and was complaining to someone about it,,and a lady standing close by heard us talking,,and come over and said she new this landlord,,and this landlord went to her church,,and they where good people,,she wouldnt even consider that i was ripped off,,then her horns popped out of her forehead,,her eyes turned bloody red,,her fingernails turned to beast claws,,and her breath smelt like brimstone sulfer,,thank GOD i carry a water gun full of holy water when ever i walk around west plains,,,other then that,,your right with your post,,satan can fool us all,,,but we all know how it all turns out in the end,,and that living with GOD in your life,,makes life alot better,,,good day me fellow beleiver,,ha haa haaa
Ex-Pentecostal

Rogersville, MO

#7 Feb 18, 2011
Grave digger, couldn't have said it better myself.
Ex-Pentecostal

Rogersville, MO

#8 Feb 18, 2011
Do Tell, yea, you see that everywhere. Its expected, but not from the "holiness" people.
John

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#9 Feb 18, 2011
Demons have infiltrated the many different religions so just dont think it is the penticostal.catholics, methodist,jehova witness and many other are suffering.The path to hell is a wide one and the path to heaven is narrow.
grave digger

Ozark, MO

#10 Feb 18, 2011
John wrote:
Demons have infiltrated the many different religions so just dont think it is the penticostal.catholics, methodist,jehova witness and many other are suffering.The path to hell is a wide one and the path to heaven is narrow.
and thats why this life is called,,the valley of tears,,and i think the path to either one is as wide as a persons choices,,all i know is,,if you read up on history,,go back to almost the beginning of time as we beleive,,and most wars where started by non beleivers and ended by beleivers,,i know alot of people are gunna chip away at that statement,,but facts are facts,,and i did say most,,alot of civil wars and islam vs christians wars where influenced by the devil himself,,but all ended by GOD himself,,now this is the grave diggers opinion,,the grave digger will not change it,,so dont even try,,just give yours,,and we can throw some facts around,,good day,,,ha haa haaa
im not pentecostal

United States

#11 Feb 19, 2011
But atleast they have a religon and a faith, even if alot of us don't nessesarly agree with some of it,that doesn't make it wrong. Who knows they might be right? We will find out someday. I say until then leave them be. This country was founded because of religous persicution! So let's not try and take that away now!
2cents

Columbia, MO

#12 Feb 19, 2011
Ex-Pentecostal wrote:
The Bible says
"Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven - Luke 6:37.
In scripture just prior to it talks about being merciful.
John 8:7 says
"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
I have never met a more judgmental group of people than the Pentecostal group from West Plains.
The Bible teaches that we are to live by example and be a light. It also says to be merciful.
I have watched and personally experienced the way that Pentecostal Holiness people treat those who have fallen away from the church. Or anyone that does something that goes against their beliefs.
I've seen people shunned, talked down to, gossiped about, and ignored. This all coming from the people who are supposed to be followers of Christ. Those who lead by example.
A Christian is supposed to be the most kind and merciful person in the world. Lending a hand to those in need, forgiving those who have stumbled, witnessing to the sinners, and above all, being shining examples of Christ's love.
It saddens me. I spent the first 20+ years of my life going to a Holiness church. I'll never return to one.
Because that is not what being a Christian is about. That is not what Jesus is about.
I have personally seen this in all of the "holy" people of the area, not just one certain religous group.This is why I do not attend any church in the West Plains area.
ShutterbugWP

Ava, MO

#13 Feb 19, 2011
I agree with 2cents. I don't and won't belong to any organized religion or political party. They have all been corrupted and misinterpreted.
Pastor Norman Overton

San Diego, CA

#14 Dec 14, 2012
Just because holiness people may fail DOES NOT mean holiness is wrong! Hebrews 12:14 says it clearly!
Pastor Norman Overton

San Diego, CA

#15 Dec 14, 2012
Look to God and not man. Lead by example! I'll be praying for ya and as a holiness pastor I'm sorry you were treated badly.
cowboy fan

Forsyth, MO

#16 Dec 14, 2012
In stating that all "holiness people" are judgemental, are you not judging? I am one of these "holiness pentecostals" and agree that there are those that choose to put themeselves on a pedestal, but don't lump us all in the same group. A lot of it is due to the older generation that are stuck in their ways. My great grandfather was church of God and was against wedding rings till much later on in life. All denominations suffer from those that think they have all the answers.
Democrat

Branson, MO

#17 Dec 14, 2012
We all are no better then anyone and we all are getting judged at the end times plus and the funny part is, all you rich bastards can't buy your way past this judge and can't take any of your money and things with ya. I also smack all atheist up side the head all day long because I can and beleive it's my duty. then I yell f--k the police, I ain't scared of jail. then I go and make myself a sandwich.

QIC

“You Know It's A Myth... ”

Since: Mar 12

atheist.org

#18 Dec 14, 2012
religion is a scam 100% of the time, it's funny that you all can't agree on anything, it's because your god is not real! if there was a god you would not be seeing so many different churches. it's a shame that you church people are not locked up in a jail cell somewhere away from children, oh wait that's right you church people like little boys and girls right?? all the perverts are religious and so are all the killers everywhere. religion has killed more people than it's ever saved. christians are hypocrites so why wouldn't they talk about each other? i've know lots of church people and every one of them talked down about someone they knew. look at those who call on your lord, like the nut above this post. you all preach hate nothing more now get over yourselves.
Democrat

Branson, MO

#19 Dec 14, 2012
QIC wrote:
religion is a scam 100% of the time, it's funny that you all can't agree on anything, it's because your god is not real! if there was a god you would not be seeing so many different churches. it's a shame that you church people are not locked up in a jail cell somewhere away from children, oh wait that's right you church people like little boys and girls right?? all the perverts are religious and so are all the killers everywhere. religion has killed more people than it's ever saved. christians are hypocrites so why wouldn't they talk about each other? i've know lots of church people and every one of them talked down about someone they knew. look at those who call on your lord, like the nut above this post. you all preach hate nothing more now get over yourselves.
Facts are facts and the facts show everyone who goes to prison is atheist and most turn back to GOD while in prison. The problem with your kind is you havn't preached your atheist bullshit to a real christians face. I slap all atheist up side the head when I hear them preach atheist crap.

QIC

“You Know It's A Myth... ”

Since: Mar 12

atheist.org

#20 Dec 14, 2012
Democrat wrote:
<quoted text> Facts are facts and the facts show everyone who goes to prison is atheist and most turn back to GOD while in prison. The problem with your kind is you havn't preached your atheist bullshit to a real christians face. I slap all atheist up side the head when I hear them preach atheist crap.
you wouldn't tell the truth if you knew how dumbazz, i know you have NEVER slapped any man. maybe a woman but not a man. i like that you resort to fear and threats. it shows you lack brain cells and truth is i've read your opinions on this site enough to know you suck and are a mean person who pushes his religion on others. maybe you haven't slapped the right atheist, like me for example. if you even though that crap around me i'd take a photo of you and pass it around your neighborhood, what would the little boys and girls have to say about the toothless old guy? i bet your closet is full. you know how neighbors like to talk, what will they say about you? i bet they call refer to u as that crazy nut who lives over there? i kno ur type, all talk with ur dentures in, lol ! yes i'm sure ur a real loser just by the way u talk to others who don't believe in your fairy tales. you seem to throw that i'll slap you bit around quite a on here, hows that working for you? even if you were able to beat people up, you do realize it won't change their views about you looney tunes? you know there's no god. you just want to belong to a nutty group, well nice job loser. you do know a real atheist would take that hand you use to slap other with and stick it up// well you know.
i wish you would spend more time trying to prove your god is real than wanting to hit people who are smarter than you. loser. or is it amen?

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