cheaters at west plains speedway

cheaters at west plains speedway

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Confused

Marshfield, MO

#1 May 12, 2009
I have recently been made aware of some certain racers that are running some motors that are well should i say Illegal. I know the old saying rules are made to be broken but arent rules suppost to be in place to keep costs somewhat down? I had the privalage to speak with a local engine builder which ill be nice and not name the company but he was thought it was pretty hillarous that two motors in the hobby stock class at west plains motor speedway not only are illegal but their Pushing $9,000 in cost. Now im just a nobody that doesnt know a whole lot about anything but i do know that if a motor has that kind of money in it theres not a possible way its legal by wpms rules. I decided to look at the rules myself and it says 360 CI and the cam must pull 16" of vacume at or below 1000 RPM. I bet theres some motors in the Crusier class that wouldnt pull that vacume. Now this engine builder was saying that these Two motors are 350 ci blocks but have 400 ci cranks which with my experience would turn a 350 block into a 383 cubic inch motor. Rule one broke. These two motors couldnt pull 16" of vacume on a special day rule 2 broken. Im sure if you was to take the valve covers off there would be a pretty set of roller tip rockers just staring at you. rule 3 broken. Now i know theres always going to be cheaters at these races but when is it going to be stopped?? Motors are making up for bad driving abilities. Now these Drivers know who they are especially the Two ive talked about. Im just hoping that someone will stand up at that racetrack and put a stop to it. Enough with the drivers hitting and banging on eachother. That is there own issues let them do that all night long cause eventually they will get sick of fixing their tore up cars and either stop the nonsense or they will run off more racers from the track. West Plains Motor Speedway needs to stop this crap before it gets way way out of hand. Those hobby cars was running lap times equal to the super stocks now where else can you see that? In finishing ill just keep sitting and watching the races from the pits and laugh when these cheaters complain about other issues when they should point at themselves first. Take your cheating motors, Direct Drive Transmission (Ilegal Also)and race your butts off ill just keep cheering on the actual racers that work hard
half throttle racn 29

United States

#2 May 12, 2009
Confused wrote:
I have recently been made aware of some certain racers that are running some motors that are well should i say Illegal. I know the old saying rules are made to be broken but arent rules suppost to be in place to keep costs somewhat down? I had the privalage to speak with a local engine builder which ill be nice and not name the company but he was thought it was pretty hillarous that two motors in the hobby stock class at west plains motor speedway not only are illegal but their Pushing $9,000 in cost. Now im just a nobody that doesnt know a whole lot about anything but i do know that if a motor has that kind of money in it theres not a possible way its legal by wpms rules. I decided to look at the rules myself and it says 360 CI and the cam must pull 16" of vacume at or below 1000 RPM. I bet theres some motors in the Crusier class that wouldnt pull that vacume. Now this engine builder was saying that these Two motors are 350 ci blocks but have 400 ci cranks which with my experience would turn a 350 block into a 383 cubic inch motor. Rule one broke. These two motors couldnt pull 16" of vacume on a special day rule 2 broken. Im sure if you was to take the valve covers off there would be a pretty set of roller tip rockers just staring at you. rule 3 broken. Now i know theres always going to be cheaters at these races but when is it going to be stopped?? Motors are making up for bad driving abilities. Now these Drivers know who they are especially the Two ive talked about. Im just hoping that someone will stand up at that racetrack and put a stop to it. Enough with the drivers hitting and banging on eachother. That is there own issues let them do that all night long cause eventually they will get sick of fixing their tore up cars and either stop the nonsense or they will run off more racers from the track. West Plains Motor Speedway needs to stop this crap before it gets way way out of hand. Those hobby cars was running lap times equal to the super stocks now where else can you see that? In finishing ill just keep sitting and watching the races from the pits and laugh when these cheaters complain about other issues when they should point at themselves first. Take your cheating motors, Direct Drive Transmission (Ilegal Also)and race your butts off ill just keep cheering on the actual racers that work hard
quit crying and start flying its been like that out there 4 years and its never going to change if u cant beatem joinem or go back 2 cruisers or 63 grand prix hell chris piper is racing hobby stock they dont care who wins or who cheats just the MONEY!!!!
Jessie

United States

#3 May 13, 2009
And again everyone likes to blame and make statements that they dont know nothing about...Just like on the other one i dont hide who i am so why do u guys... Except you like to do nothing but cry and whine.. If you are a racer and on here then just man up and drive your cars.. If you spend half as much time on working on your cars then on here u wld be faster....If not they always got the $150 protest rule if you want to try us.... We could use the xtra money...
What do you expect

Rogersville, MO

#4 May 13, 2009
Would you expect anything less from around these parts. Hell the FBI is probably sittin in the stands way things are.

Jessie why does is show Lake Mary FL under your name ? Are you in FL ? Lake Mary ?
Jessie is so Confused

Marshfield, MO

#5 May 13, 2009
Ken Smith built your motors and Hoods Performance does all of the machine work for Ken Smith. It sure is strange how Jessie Sherian was one the first ones to come on and reply my comment. I wasnt naming any names or wasnt naming and engine builders. Good Job Jessie you just told on yourself big guy. Its Hard to not wine and cry when theres guys that let money take care of their lack of driving abilities. Chis Piper has never owned his own car hes aways spent other peoples money to race. Im just sick of seeing those who dont appreciate whats given to them. Kevin is a pretty agressive driver and he doesnt seem to do that in his own car just in cars he doesnt have to pay for. I think thats what alot of whats going on. And Jessie i wasnt just talking about your motors theres more than just your motor thats hotter than yours is but way to go on telling on yourself dumb ass. They should just make the hobby stock class run those dang crate motors that will show the real drivers.
hick in the sticks

Branson, MO

#6 May 13, 2009
i tell u what u non driving confused wondering stupid moron get u a car call jessie trade 4 one nightbet u 500 jessie still woops ur ass to the finish line in ur own car
Confused

Marshfield, MO

#7 May 13, 2009
Jessie has won how many races? LOL jessie never won a damn race in anything untill he sank all of this money into a cheating racing program. Get in equal cars and see how Jessie or Kevin does. Their motors, trannys and who knows what else is illegal. Since when do TCI direct drive trannys become legal in any class besides IMCA modifieds. They are ran in the crusiers, Hobby cars and even super stock now that jessie is in that class. Powerglides did come in factory cars but im pretty sure they all had torch converters gentlmen. And im for sure they didnt have to have a clutch pedal lol. Its all fine though ill just keep watching all you cheaters from the pits go by on the track and smile knowing that you had to cheat to win well if you ever do cause im noticing that cheating cant even hlp u win..So So sad. Check the Ellison cars, Kelly cars, even bobby bryants car. All will be legal. Then check Kevins hobby car Jessies superstock and check any car that has anything to do with Kevin collins in the crusier class. since when did 9 inch Ford rear ends come in Chevrolet cars??? When did they also come with direct drive trans? That 47 car from arkansas is a true crusier car and he whips them cheaters. Just like that 26 car whiped kevin. Mr Hick in the sticks are you jessies bitch or his daddy?
hick in the sticks

Branson, MO

#8 May 13, 2009
im going 2 make u my bitch get a car and put up or shut up thats as easy as it is back seat drivers seem to think they can do it better hell i can out driver u
hambone

United States

#9 May 13, 2009
hick in the sticks wrote:
im going 2 make u my bitch get a car and put up or shut up thats as easy as it is back seat drivers seem to think they can do it better hell i can out driver u
it aint cheating till u get caught quit crying and start flying if the track lets them get by with running their cheater chit hell be it joinem and c if ya can out run them till then blame the track not the guys u hear that r cheating or know that r cheating doesnt do anything but start chit or get your azz whooped or maybe u just might whoop somebody elses azz and then still nothing is solved!( damn u kevin cant believe these boys r all wanting 2 whip your azz lol GIVEM HELL)hambone
grave digger

Branson, MO

#10 May 13, 2009
well i wont be going to watch any cheaters,,what they cant win without cheating,,if they cheat,,they are already loosers,,i wont be going to any race at a cheating track,,maybe the better buisness people in jeff city can take a look at these cheaters,,my money is on them closing that place down,,there is a reason they have rules for moters at a speedway,,we the fans arnt safe,,my god man,,
Just a racer

AOL

#11 May 14, 2009
Track officials aren't going to do anthing about the cheating. The owners aren't going to do anthing about the cheating. All they care about is pit money. There is a claim rule if you want to make enemies and then you get your car wrecked every weekend. So I load up my car every Sat. go to the track and race as clean and as safe as I possiblie can with my legal car. I almost always finish last but I always do my best to have fun.I sleep with a clear mind knowing i did my best
confused

Marshfield, MO

#12 May 14, 2009
Your are 100% right just a racer. You protest your hated and gonna be wrecked. so i appreciate true racers like you
confused

Marshfield, MO

#13 May 14, 2009
hicks is going to out driver me lol he must be apart of the collins
real racer

United States

#14 May 14, 2009
you have got to be shitting me the 47 car in the cruiser class is legal come on, the only thing legal is the wheel base. There is no way that motor is not a cheater motor. He outruns the 00 car. And hes got one hell of a motor, when those guys lap the 6th place cars there has to be something wrong. The cruiser class may as well be lumped in with the hobby cars. At least then the 00 and 47 wouldn't win all the time. Who wants to see the same guys win all the time at lease not by as much as they win by. The track officials need to look for torque converters, check vacuum way more often, enforce the wheelbase limit, last time i checked the rules said 109 inches, those metric cars the monte carlos are 108, the buick regals are 106 so they dont even enforce that. Its just plain all about the money the gibsons wont let guy hollingshad or anyone else for that matter, enforce any rules. They dont want to piss anyone off and lose their money. Just do some freakin tech sometimes, for god sakes read your own rules, better yet make some real rules and then enforce the damn things. I wish someone would buy the damn track and make some changes that would screw some people up if they had to worry about being teched!!!
hambone

United States

#15 May 14, 2009
real racer wrote:
you have got to be shitting me the 47 car in the cruiser class is legal come on, the only thing legal is the wheel base. There is no way that motor is not a cheater motor. He outruns the 00 car. And hes got one hell of a motor, when those guys lap the 6th place cars there has to be something wrong. The cruiser class may as well be lumped in with the hobby cars. At least then the 00 and 47 wouldn't win all the time. Who wants to see the same guys win all the time at lease not by as much as they win by. The track officials need to look for torque converters, check vacuum way more often, enforce the wheelbase limit, last time i checked the rules said 109 inches, those metric cars the monte carlos are 108, the buick regals are 106 so they dont even enforce that. Its just plain all about the money the gibsons wont let guy hollingshad or anyone else for that matter, enforce any rules. They dont want to piss anyone off and lose their money. Just do some freakin tech sometimes, for god sakes read your own rules, better yet make some real rules and then enforce the damn things. I wish someone would buy the damn track and make some changes that would screw some people up if they had to worry about being teched!!!
i agree but hell they still try 2 cheat in nascar so thats a part of the game dont get mad at guys who r cheating or been acused of cheating let the track deal with it if they dont. like i said earlier JOINEM!! sounds like ive missed some major drama this year!hambone
hick in the sticks

Branson, MO

#16 May 14, 2009
im not a collins i have a better vocabulary and higher iq ur just a blow heart nothing any as i have said before anytime u want to put up your welfare check i got a car u get one we will see
hick in the sticks

Branson, MO

#17 May 14, 2009
that hambone is a bad mother trucker back in the day he was a driving sob rip roaring dirt snortn fast ass mother
hambone

United States

#18 May 14, 2009
hick in the sticks wrote:
that hambone is a bad mother trucker back in the day he was a driving sob rip roaring dirt snortn fast ass mother
what the hell u been smokin this hambone was stuck on idle not really but hey i had a blast trying to compete with all u CHEATERS lol jk hambone
Frosty

United States

#19 May 14, 2009
What kind of morons would race stock cars anyway? Why don't you spend some money on your children instead of those fkucken cars! Where are you getting that kind of money anyway?
hick in the sticks

Branson, MO

#20 May 14, 2009
hambone did u have tha most awsome nova stockcar with the 608 cubic inch nitro burning hoods motor u was so freakn fast couldnt even see u thay didnt have chit on team bone

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