West Pensacola Murder/Suicide

West Pensacola Murder/Suicide

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Jefrey Grimsley

AOL

#1 Oct 6, 2006
I have heard comments of this particular case of a mister fred mitchell, many of his neibhors are sayin he was addicted to crack-cocaine.I for one would like to say right here and now i worked with fred for a while and considered him a close friend, freds biggest problem was his addiction to ALCOHOL, as far as any drugs go he is not the type to have done that, as to these accusations i will be satisfied when his autopsy comes back and for now i am against anyone who would say otherwise. As far as accounts of him and his wife haveing problems, yes, but who doesn't, and as far as him being the prime suspect goes look at the area this took place in, i am not saying what did or did not take place today because i was not there, but all and all Fred Mitchell was a good man who tried the best he could to do the best he could for his family, and there are still many possibilities of what could have happend
Samantha Ann Mitchell

Pensacola, FL

#2 Oct 7, 2006
I am Fred's daughter and I do believe that he did this, he did have a drug and ALCOHOL problem and he called the cops and admitted what he did. I should know, he listed me as his next of kin and they told me all they know, things that aren't in the news. My father did kill my birth mother and my little brother.
And that's something that I have to live with the rest of my life. Not only that Fred admitted to me that he had a problems with both drugs and alcohol.
Jefrey Grimsley wrote:
I have heard comments of this particular case of a mister fred mitchell, many of his neibhors are sayin he was addicted to crack-cocaine.I for one would like to say right here and now i worked with fred for a while and considered him a close friend, freds biggest problem was his addiction to ALCOHOL, as far as any drugs go he is not the type to have done that, as to these accusations i will be satisfied when his autopsy comes back and for now i am against anyone who would say otherwise. As far as accounts of him and his wife haveing problems, yes, but who doesn't, and as far as him being the prime suspect goes look at the area this took place in, i am not saying what did or did not take place today because i was not there, but all and all Fred Mitchell was a good man who tried the best he could to do the best he could for his family, and there are still many possibilities of what could have happend
Samantha Ann Mitchell

Pensacola, FL

#3 Oct 7, 2006
Who told you that an autopsy was going to be performed on Fred? He doesn't even have a legal next of kin to authorize his burial, he gave up his legal rights to me when I was 6 weeks old. And I can't even help get him buried. There is no one else to give permission.
Jefrey Grimsley wrote:
I have heard comments of this particular case of a mister fred mitchell, many of his neibhors are sayin he was addicted to crack-cocaine.I for one would like to say right here and now i worked with fred for a while and considered him a close friend, freds biggest problem was his addiction to ALCOHOL, as far as any drugs go he is not the type to have done that, as to these accusations i will be satisfied when his autopsy comes back and for now i am against anyone who would say otherwise. As far as accounts of him and his wife haveing problems, yes, but who doesn't, and as far as him being the prime suspect goes look at the area this took place in, i am not saying what did or did not take place today because i was not there, but all and all Fred Mitchell was a good man who tried the best he could to do the best he could for his family, and there are still many possibilities of what could have happend
Jeffrey Grimsley

AOL

#4 Oct 8, 2006
mrs or miss samantha, first off i am sorry for your loss and i do not know if or if not an autopsy will be done, i just know that florida is really big on haveing autopsys done. I also would like to say that i worked with fred a little over a year and my father worked with him about two and a half or three years, and both of us can say that we have seen fred git upset, but not once raise his voice or his hand for that matter. I dont know how far it will go but in my opinion fred was a good man and the problem with alcohol was two sided, not just him.I'm not sure what brought all this on , but what gits me about it is that the meadia is makeing it look like he was just the worst person in the world and he was not. I can think of several occasions that if i was him i would have left her years ago. When i asked fred why he didnt he had one answer, Tommy. As i said i dont know what brought all this on but i beleive that as far as betty goes, he ment it, but fred loved Tommy very much and i dont know what happend but i beleive it was and accident on that end of it, and i also beleive if it had not been for that he would have turned him self in instead of takeing the road he did. I am not here to credit or descredit any thing but this is just the way i feel about the situation.there are many things i cant say here that i would like to, in the simpleist of terms and as far as i know and believe in my heart to be true is fred did not have a drug problem, maybe alcohol but not drugs, and i also think his wife finally pushed him over the edge.
DeWayne Smith

AOL

#5 Oct 8, 2006
First samantha let me say how sorry we are for your loss. Second let me say that I can niether condon or excuse what Fred did. I met Fred 4 years ago when he worked for the same company. I was Freds Foreman, He worked hard every day Fred was a good employee and in my opion Fred was a good man. I have had the chance to sit and talk to Fred a many a day about our families. I know Fred loved his family very much. Fred worked hard during the day and would have a couple of beers on the ride home.I have Dropped Fred off on Friday (more than once) when Betty was standing in the door of the motel waiting for your dad to give her money to go bar hopping and leave Fred and Tommy home alone for the whole night. Tommy has spent the night at my house I thought of Fred as a friend I liked Betty But I think everybody needs to face the fact that Fred was not the only one there that liked to drink Betty did too. You cant always look at the end results and know what happened to start the whole thing. I can see things getting out of control and an accident progressing to Death. But for Fred to just outrit murder Betty and Tommy I just cant picture the man I knew Hurting a Son that he loved so much. Something so bad that none of us could even imagine must have happened to drive this man so far over the edge and I wish I knowed what it was. I will miss Fred, Betty And Tommy so will my family and we are so sorry for the family.
Jennie

AOL

#6 Oct 9, 2006
Jeffrey,

No one is saying that Betty and Fred where good or bad people, but last I checked, Betty did not kill her son or husbend! Most likely, no one will ever know what caused it! But all we have to go on is the results, and known facts. I don't think you have any right to say his wife pushed him over the edge! That's just down right WRONG. Your blaming a murder on the murdered PERSON! None of these people deserved to be killed, and Fred killing himself was of his own choice. All any of us can do now is to remember these people that we cared about that died, and also to remember that a innocent child was murder! A CHILD!! There is never a good reason for a child to die. And
in my experience, a person never shows their true side, unless around their family! whether Fred was a good person or not what he DID makes him a bad person...nothing should push a person to commit murder. If your pushed to the edge, it's your choice to walk away or take an action..And Fred choose to take two people's lives (an action).
Jeffrey Grimsley wrote:
mrs or miss samantha, first off i am sorry for your loss and i do not know if or if not an autopsy will be done, i just know that florida is really big on haveing autopsys done. I also would like to say that i worked with fred a little over a year and my father worked with him about two and a half or three years, and both of us can say that we have seen fred git upset, but not once raise his voice or his hand for that matter. I dont know how far it will go but in my opinion fred was a good man and the problem with alcohol was two sided, not just him.I'm not sure what brought all this on , but what gits me about it is that the meadia is makeing it look like he was just the worst person in the world and he was not. I can think of several occasions that if i was him i would have left her years ago. When i asked fred why he didnt he had one answer, Tommy. As i said i dont know what brought all this on but i beleive that as far as betty goes, he ment it, but fred loved Tommy very much and i dont know what happend but i beleive it was and accident on that end of it, and i also beleive if it had not been for that he would have turned him self in instead of takeing the road he did. I am not here to credit or descredit any thing but this is just the way i feel about the situation.there are many things i cant say here that i would like to, in the simpleist of terms and as far as i know and believe in my heart to be true is fred did not have a drug problem, maybe alcohol but not drugs, and i also think his wife finally pushed him over the edge.
Jennie

AOL

#7 Oct 9, 2006
Did anyone see the store on the news tonite? "911 recording sheds light on murder-suicide", Fred's 911 call was released to the news, and he confirmed that he killed them.
DeWayne Smith

AOL

#8 Oct 9, 2006
Jennie No one has said we didnt belive Fred did it. We said we Knew the family which I dont recall reading in your comments. We were FRIENDS with Fred and Betty. Tommy had spent the night with my kids.We have not tried to make anyone the BAD PERSON in this horrible event. Fred was not a BAD PERSON no matter what he did. I do not defend Fred aginst what he did! I stand for Fred as another human being who tried to do the best he could with the cards he was dealt.Usally when things were bothering him Fred would call me and us talk about it. I wish he would have called Tuesday night maybe just maybe......I can only hope that when I die Someone doesnt just consatrate on just 1 thing that I did in my life to define who I was And maybe YOU need to think about the same thing. As far as haveing choises in life very little we do in our lives are from our own choise. 90% of our everyday lives is desided by the people around us and when you have children of your own you will start to understand that.Now on the part of Fred desideing to take his own life....How many do we have sitting on death row exshault every appeal they can find from Im innocent to Im insane. Fred knew what he did was wrong and it wasnt up to the state to give him his punishment. He did what any MAN with a conscince would have done. I want to finish by saying I still DO NOT CONDON OR EXCUSE what Fred did. I just dont belive in judgeing a man without first walking in his shoes. YET BY THE GRACE OF GOD GO I
Jennie

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#9 Oct 10, 2006
Well I too knew Fred, Betty and Thomas. SORRY I HAD TO MAKE IT A POINT TO SAY I KNEW THEM. Samantha by the way is related to me and now shes stuck cleaning up Freds "cards that he was dealt with". Just because your dealt a shitty hand of cards, doesn't mean you have a right to choose to kills people or yourself. I'm sick, and the Government doesn't see that I'M SICK, so I'm going to die at a young age because they don't think I need their medical coverage. You don't see me killing people in the Governement or my family because I'm depressed and feel helpless. Whatever Fred's reason doesn't excuse his actions. And I know alot more about Fred and his past then you will ever know. I don't mean to judge him for killing his family, I'm trying not to judge at all. But as a human being thats just what we do, Judge. Even if I'm not judging, I'm still able to say Fred wasn't a very good person. People that don't kill their family or themselves can be bad people to! And you shouldn't be judging me, I'm just being as nosie as the rest of you about if Fred was good or bad. I'm just saying, it sucks when people have to be killed because other people thought it was the way to go. I think Fred deserved to sit in jail and think about what he did, isn't that what jail is, a punshiment? If not, what are all of our taxes going to?
DeWayne Smith

AOL

#10 Oct 10, 2006
Jennie I am not tring to have a pissing contest.I am sorry that you are ashamed of having known Fred and Betty thats a burden you will have to bear as for me I am PROUD to have known them both. I helped Fred and Betty out with food money advice or any way I could. I helped them when I could and how I could if you are related to samantha you can tell her that my name is on Tommys emergancy contact list and I would be more than happy to help her in anyway I can with cleaning up this mess. I listen to the 911 tapes and I am sorry but Fred didnt sound like he had totally lost it. He sounded just like the Fred I knew polite and helpfull.as for your last statement JAIL is no punishment its a school to teach you how not to get caught. I MEANT WHAT I SAID ABOUT WANTING TO HELP JUST CALL ME.
Jennie

AOL

#11 Oct 10, 2006
Well DeWayne,

Since I'm not a male. I'm not having a pissing contest. I don't remember saying I am ashamed of knowing them. I have no burden to bear, other then knowing a CHILD was MURDERED. And I agree, Fred did not sound like he totally lost, which makes it worse. He didn't sound or say anything like he was sorry. And have you ever been in jail? Or worked in one? What kinda cracked up idea of jail do you have? Jail is suppose to punish and treat people! And as for your comment about me having children, how would you know anything about me? Thank you, but for your information (I CAN'T HAVE CHILDREN)... SO when I hear of shitty people killing and abusing the children they were blessed with, I tend to have no respect for. So have a nice day, and be grateful for the children you have if any.
DeWayne Smith wrote:
Jennie I am not tring to have a pissing contest.I am sorry that you are ashamed of having known Fred and Betty thats a burden you will have to bear as for me I am PROUD to have known them both. I helped Fred and Betty out with food money advice or any way I could. I helped them when I could and how I could if you are related to samantha you can tell her that my name is on Tommys emergancy contact list and I would be more than happy to help her in anyway I can with cleaning up this mess. I listen to the 911 tapes and I am sorry but Fred didnt sound like he had totally lost it. He sounded just like the Fred I knew polite and helpfull.as for your last statement JAIL is no punishment its a school to teach you how not to get caught. I MEANT WHAT I SAID ABOUT WANTING TO HELP JUST CALL ME.
DeWayne Smith

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#12 Oct 10, 2006
I have 4 3 Boys 32 22 8 I have 1 Girl 6 I miss two friends and yes I morn the loss of a child I hope everybody invoved can move past it and have a better life
Samantha

Pensacola, FL

#13 Oct 10, 2006
Dewayne,
Fred had NO excuse for what he did. EVERYONE has there problems and fights. Doesnt mean you have to kill people. And just so you KNOW he had PLENTY of time to think about what he had done (after he murdered my mother) Before he saw thomas. Thomas was in school, Fred WAITED over 5hours for him to get home just to murder him! When if he had just snapped or whatever, you say something had to drive him to it right, well he had plenty of time,and could have EASILY picked up a phone and said "hey sam we're going out tonight,could you pick up tommy from school" But NO He CHOOSE to murder him as well.. Tommy has three older siblings the guy KNEW he would be taken care of. But NO it was his CHOICE and he knew what he was doing. And nothing drove him to the edge as you say, He even said In a letter that he had "NO REASON" for what he did. He just did it.. He also said that he had been on drugs..

Maybe you were friends with him and all, And i know he can act like a great guy and all, and completely fool you, BUT he was not the same with "friends" And, I will never forgive him for what he did to them...
Family Just Found Out

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Dec 14, 2006
Fred Mitchell has family in Indiana, 2 Sisters, and a Mother. There is also a Sister in Tennessee.
family knows

Nashville, TN

#15 Dec 15, 2006
I am one of his sisters and we truly know their life together wasn't a good one. but both of them had good and bad faults. They always fought usually over stupid stuff. I can remember many of fights where they provoked each other into bad beatings. I remember helping him get his life back together and out of the bottle and yes if helped in the right way fred can be a better person.I have seen him change a be a good family man. I truly know he would have never hurt that child for anything in the world. He only stayed for his sake. He told me on many of times I want to leave but what about Tommy he needs a decent person in his life and with his mom drinking and running around all the time he won't get that unless I stay. He could have left but he chose to help give Tommy a life. I was there when he went thru detox at lakeview I helped him then and yes in the past I helped both of them. If you kept them off of the alchohol they were decent ppl. No he has no excuse for taking Tommy's life. My guess was he was probably afraid of Tommy telling on him and he tried to stop that. Then eventually his conscious got the best of him and he turned himself in. Fred was one person when he was around ppl he knew but was someone totaly different when home with them. I have seen it. They always had criticizing remarks to say to one another not much of anything nice to say. Their whole life was based on drinking and fighting even when I was a kid.
family knows

Nashville, TN

#16 Dec 15, 2006
But he was a good man regardless. And I have nothing but sympathy for all parties involved. She was a decent person at times herself I have seen that too. Basically I have seen their good and bad attitudes. So I'm not saying she was the worst person in the world. I have seen her good side as well she can be a nice person. But they just were not meant to be with each other but they stayed together anywasy. I'm sorry it took this to happen to bring them apart. When they were not together they were happy but when they were together they fought alot. And when I repeated what he said about Tommy that was based on what he would tell me in person. Whether true or not I don't know.
daniel robinson

Jersey City, NJ

#17 Oct 20, 2011
Jefrey Grimsley wrote:
I have heard comments of this particular case of a mister fred mitchell, many of his neibhors are sayin he was addicted to crack-cocaine.I for one would like to say right here and now i worked with fred for a while and considered him a close friend, freds biggest problem was his addiction to ALCOHOL, as far as any drugs go he is not the type to have done that, as to these accusations i will be satisfied when his autopsy comes back and for now i am against anyone who would say otherwise. As far as accounts of him and his wife haveing problems, yes, but who doesn't, and as far as him being the prime suspect goes look at the area this took place in, i am not saying what did or did not take place today because i was not there, but all and all Fred Mitchell was a good man who tried the best he could to do the best he could for his family, and there are still many possibilities of what could have happend
I know &worked with him as well for 3 years... and yes he did has a bad drug problem,intact he and I talked about it just a week before the all went down... My son Alex was suppose play with Tommy after he finished his homework,but Tommy never came back out. I feel bad because I should have knew something was wrong. Because of Fred's drug use I wouldn't let Alex go over to Tommy's place.(That's 100% truth) and there's a heck of alot more to the story. Fred was a hard worker and loved his family that's what hurts so much. I wish I would have stopped Tommy from going in. Should have know when Fred kept peeking out the door instead of Betty picking up Tommy like she did 99.9% of the time. Please don't post things that are false or your not sure of. When they found Fred hanging from a tree by the tracks he had a note on him that read he's sorry for being a crack head and killing his family. I done for the night this turf.... good night people!
daniel robinson

Jersey City, NJ

#18 Oct 20, 2011
DeWayne Smith wrote:
Jennie No one has said we didnt belive Fred did it. We said we Knew the family which I dont recall reading in your comments. We were FRIENDS with Fred and Betty. Tommy had spent the night with my kids.We have not tried to make anyone the BAD PERSON in this horrible event. Fred was not a BAD PERSON no matter what he did. I do not defend Fred aginst what he did! I stand for Fred as another human being who tried to do the best he could with the cards he was dealt.Usally when things were bothering him Fred would call me and us talk about it. I wish he would have called Tuesday night maybe just maybe......I can only hope that when I die Someone doesnt just consatrate on just 1 thing that I did in my life to define who I was And maybe YOU need to think about the same thing. As far as haveing choises in life very little we do in our lives are from our own choise. 90% of our everyday lives is desided by the people around us and when you have children of your own you will start to understand that.Now on the part of Fred desideing to take his own life....How many do we have sitting on death row exshault every appeal they can find from Im innocent to Im insane. Fred knew what he did was wrong and it wasnt up to the state to give him his punishment. He did what any MAN with a conscince would have done. I want to finish by saying I still DO NOT CONDON OR EXCUSE what Fred did. I just dont belive in judgeing a man without first walking in his shoes. YET BY THE GRACE OF GOD GO I
yeah lets kill so we can walk in someone's else's shoes... I can't believe what I'm reading. We as people can't kill because we're very mad or sad. Whats wrong with you? I hope your not the type to beat your wife then ask why do you make me beat you... if its that bad LEAVE!!!
Samantha Mitchell

Bay Minette, AL

#19 Nov 12, 2011
daniel robinson wrote:
<quoted text> I know &worked with him as well for 3 years... and yes he did has a bad drug problem,intact he and I talked about it just a week before the all went down... My son Alex was suppose play with Tommy after he finished his homework,but Tommy never came back out. I feel bad because I should have knew something was wrong. Because of Fred's drug use I wouldn't let Alex go over to Tommy's place.(That's 100% truth) and there's a heck of alot more to the story. Fred was a hard worker and loved his family that's what hurts so much. I wish I would have stopped Tommy from going in. Should have know when Fred kept peeking out the door instead of Betty picking up Tommy like she did 99.9% of the time. Please don't post things that are false or your not sure of. When they found Fred hanging from a tree by the tracks he had a note on him that read he's sorry for being a crack head and killing his family. I done for the night this turf.... good night people!
I was wondering if there is any way I could contact you, if you have a facebook or something? My email is countryzfemme@aol.com
I'd like to talk to you & know the rest of the story. There a lot of unanswered questions about the time before my father murdered my mother & brother and I know you were around so if you could please email me or let me know a way to contact you I'd appreciate it. I knew my brother & your son were friends but I didn't know how to get a hold of you which is why I never did.
daniel robinson

Newark, NJ

#20 Jan 19, 2012
Samantha Mitchell wrote:
<quoted text>
I was wondering if there is any way I could contact you, if you have a facebook or something? My email is countryzfemme@aol.com
I'd like to talk to you & know the rest of the story. There a lot of unanswered questions about the time before my father murdered my mother & brother and I know you were around so if you could please email me or let me know a way to contact you I'd appreciate it. I knew my brother & your son were friends but I didn't know how to get a hold of you which is why I never did.

yes I'm on face book. Onder Danny Robinson..... I'll look for you now on face book as a madder of fact.....

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