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west memphis three,west memphis 3

There are 248 comments on the WREG story from Jan 20, 2010, titled west memphis three,west memphis 3. In it, WREG reports that:

An Arkansas judge says no to new trials for two of the West Memphis 3, rejecting claims by Jessie Misskelley and Jason Baldwin that they didn't receive fair trials.

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brittany

United States

#205 Feb 16, 2010
question wrote:
"And I have already told you why I think if Jessie 'confessed', why he would have done so."
The post was not specifically intended for you alone... I would also like to see more input and opinions from others who are looking for the whole truth here. I do not believe that all officers of the law are liars. Some, yes. but not all of them.
No, I don't think all officers of the law are liars either. I didn't say that, and I'd appreciate if you did not put those words in my mouth. I did say the officers and detectives involved in this case were proven liars. You can research this for yourself. I have provided you with the documented websites to assist you. They stretched the truth, used specific words to confuse the jury (such as saying a piece of fiber/hair "matched" a suspect, instead of the scientifically correct "was similar to", leading the jury to believe the evidence matched the convicted suspects, when it was also similar to many many other suspects). That is only one example of many.

Why do you insist on asking the same question over and over again, when we (JusJulie, Lee, myself, and others before this page) have provided you with justifiable answers? Are they unsatisfying to you? Are you trying to pull a 'gotcha' over on us? Maybe you should research some more and come back and give us something to work with. Your questions are broad and consist of things no one can know for sure.
question

Jacksonville, AR

#206 Feb 16, 2010
Read my last response to jusjulie.
Sadie

Dalton, GA

#207 Feb 16, 2010
So alot of you think the killer is still out there. maybe but there also has been no other crime as heinous as this one involving children since the WM3 went to prison. Why would a random killer just stop killing if children were his targets. Anyone know of anything similar to the way the boys were killed?
Observer

United States

#208 Feb 16, 2010
Sadie wrote:
So alot of you think the killer is still out there. maybe but there also has been no other crime as heinous as this one involving children since the WM3 went to prison. Why would a random killer just stop killing if children were his targets. Anyone know of anything similar to the way the boys were killed?
wHY, because the stepfather ran out of stepchildren. That is my opinion. I really think that Hobbs did this.
jusjulie

San Antonio, TX

#209 Feb 16, 2010
I know that's not funny @ observer .. but it did make me chuckle a lil .. it's so sad!..:(..
Sadie

Dalton, GA

#210 Feb 16, 2010
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>wHY, because the stepfather ran out of stepchildren. That is my opinion. I really think that Hobbs did this.
Yeah that's definitely a possibility it's just from looking at him it's hard to believe he could pull it off for this long without letting something slip. He does not look that smart.
jusjulie

San Antonio, TX

#211 Feb 16, 2010
if it's true that he has written a book .. he will prolly hold onto it til his death .. and then maybe the truth will come out ..
Sadie

Dalton, GA

#212 Feb 16, 2010
Well even after all the talk and questions and such I am still on the fence here. Such a major flustercluck of evidence that really points to noone conclusively.
brittany

United States

#213 Feb 17, 2010
Sadie wrote:
So alot of you think the killer is still out there. maybe but there also has been no other crime as heinous as this one involving children since the WM3 went to prison. Why would a random killer just stop killing if children were his targets. Anyone know of anything similar to the way the boys were killed?
It's completely possible this was a domestic violence abuse case. Melissa Byers had gone to the school days before the incident saying she thought her son was being sexually abused.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_...
"The type of bite marks are most often seen in Battered Child Homicide.
The presence of healed injuries on Christopher Byers's body, Melissa Byers's concern that Christopher was being sexually abused which she expressed to a school counselor before his death, medical records, reported behavioral problems and Chris's diagnosis with ADD and other behavioral disorders, are all strong indicators that Christopher Byers had been physically, if not sexually, abused prior to this attack.
Steven Branch had lacerations on his penis which were probably self-inflicted indicating a sexualized child, usually associated with sexual abuse."

Also, let's take a look at Melissa Byer's mysterious death.
http://www.helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showt...

I have a feeling John Mark Byers is very, very involved with the WMPD. He was an informant at one time, and has been known to work closely with them. Maybe he has some dirt on them? The WMPD as well as investigators involved in the case were known to have criminal problems. Maybe John was too involved with that for the police to zone in on him. I just wish they would investigate him as well as Terry Hobbs. I mean after the murders, John Mark Byers had his freaking teeth replaced! Talk about suspicion. But to answer your question I think the killings stopped because as someone said, the abusive relationship was over. Both Hobbs and Byers DID have other children, but as anyone in a child-abuse relationship knows, not all children in the family suffer from the abuse. And who knows, maybe he got scared after the murder - maybe he didn't mean for it to even happen, and he just went too far. But I definitely think one or both of them are guilty.
Observer

United States

#214 Feb 17, 2010
The three women who came forward in September of last year, stated that the boys were headed for Hobbs House at about 6:30 that evening. Hobbs stated that he never saw the boy that day, yet he was standing on the sidewalk yelling for them to come to his house at 6:30 in the presence of these three women. I think that he was beating his stepson for not being at home when he should have been and accidentlly killed him. The other boys saw this, so he had to kill them too to keep them from telling on him. My theory is that he hog tied them in order to be able to carry them easily into the woods and dump their bodies. I believe he also carried the bicycles and dumped them in the bayou to get them out of his yard and throw suspicion off of himself. He may look stupid, but a criminal can be very smart when it comes to covering up their crime. I think Jessie was mistaken about the time and day of which he saw what he claims to have seen. I never read anything where he said that he saw them being killed by Damien or Jason, just being sexually abused by them. Maybe this is why Melissa Byers thought that he was being abused by his stepfather, when it may have been these teenagers who was doing the sexual abuse all along. But not on the day that they were killed. I still think Hobbs did this. Why else would he be cleaning his house with a fine tooth comb when his father-in-law arrived the next day? He was getting rid of all of the evidence of his crime. Not saying that this is the way it happened, but it sure makes a lot of sense to me.
Sadie

Dalton, GA

#215 Feb 17, 2010
Observer wrote:
The three women who came forward in September of last year, stated that the boys were headed for Hobbs House at about 6:30 that evening. Hobbs stated that he never saw the boy that day, yet he was standing on the sidewalk yelling for them to come to his house at 6:30 in the presence of these three women. I think that he was beating his stepson for not being at home when he should have been and accidentlly killed him. The other boys saw this, so he had to kill them too to keep them from telling on him. My theory is that he hog tied them in order to be able to carry them easily into the woods and dump their bodies. I believe he also carried the bicycles and dumped them in the bayou to get them out of his yard and throw suspicion off of himself. He may look stupid, but a criminal can be very smart when it comes to covering up their crime. I think Jessie was mistaken about the time and day of which he saw what he claims to have seen. I never read anything where he said that he saw them being killed by Damien or Jason, just being sexually abused by them. Maybe this is why Melissa Byers thought that he was being abused by his stepfather, when it may have been these teenagers who was doing the sexual abuse all along. But not on the day that they were killed. I still think Hobbs did this. Why else would he be cleaning his house with a fine tooth comb when his father-in-law arrived the next day? He was getting rid of all of the evidence of his crime. Not saying that this is the way it happened, but it sure makes a lot of sense to me.
It's a good theory and makes sense. Were the houses of the victims searched for evidence when this happened? I have not been able to find out anything about that. if not it was clearly negligence not to have been done within the first 48 hours at least.
brittany

United States

#216 Feb 18, 2010
Sadie wrote:
<quoted text> It's a good theory and makes sense. Were the houses of the victims searched for evidence when this happened? I have not been able to find out anything about that. if not it was clearly negligence not to have been done within the first 48 hours at least.
No, the homes were not properly searched. The police retrieved some of the children's clothing for matching purposes, but the victim's homes were not searched as other suspect's homes were. Read the story on midsouthjustice.com , it's got a very detailed account of the families involved, the corruption in the police department, as well as an officer who was poisoned prior to the WM3 events after being assigned a job to expose WMPD corruption... I think there is a LOT more to this than what the media put on. The families are directly involved, there were a lot of drug issues involved, and the WMPD was right in the middle of it. You should check out that site, it has scanned copies of police files ect. And personally I think the step fathers were the ones sexually abusing the boys. There are no reports of the convicted ever coming into contact with the boys.
jusjulie

San Antonio, TX

#217 Feb 19, 2010
[Mark Byers, May 19, 1993 interview] Byers would describe two occasions when his search took him to the area where the victims were found. "I was out looking until 4:30 a.m.

Terry Hobbs described beginning his search well before nightfall, including passing near the discovery site.

www.jivepuppi.com/

**where can I find more info about this .. I would like to know where byers and hobbs entered the woods at to get so close to the crime scene .. Did they cross the PIPE at night?**
brittany

United States

#218 Feb 19, 2010
jusjulie wrote:
[Mark Byers, May 19, 1993 interview] Byers would describe two occasions when his search took him to the area where the victims were found. "I was out looking until 4:30 a.m.
Terry Hobbs described beginning his search well before nightfall, including passing near the discovery site.
www.jivepuppi.com/
**where can I find more info about this .. I would like to know where byers and hobbs entered the woods at to get so close to the crime scene .. Did they cross the PIPE at night?**
It was also stated that JM Byers backed up his vehicle (a GMC?) behind the Blue Beacon car wash at about 9:40ish. It was backed up to the woods. Officer Meek (I believe) found the truck, and then subsequently found Byers walking around in overalls and boots (an outfit he wore that night and three days after), with no flashlight. Why would Byers do this? Why would he be in the woods with no flashlight, and why was his car backed up to the woods? Byers claimed his son Ryan was with him, and they were helping to look for the boys, but Ryan said he never searched alongside his father that night. He was with a friend named Brett.

I think there are multiple people involved in this. The midsouthjustice.com website explains that Ryan and Brett went to the woods, heard something 'splashing', called out into the dark for the boys, and then got scared and left. As they were leaving, they heard trees and branched breaking, and then a gunshot. About 15 minutes later the black man in the Bojangles restaurant showed up covered in blood stumbling about.
Coincidence?
jusjulie

San Antonio, TX

#219 Feb 19, 2010
my theory as to how the babies ended up in RHH ..(I have no motive or 100% suspects)
They were killed someplace else. Brought to the blue beacon truckstop (its opened 24/7 so I car pulling in there wouldn't be unusual) drove to the back of BB, thru the meadow, to the pond, around the tree's to the entrance of the woods. They took the Bikes and dumped them by the pipes (to make it look like the babies came there on their own free will) However, they didn't take into consideration (or knowledge) that Chris was affraid to cross the pipes. Chris and Stevie were placed in the same area in the ditch and the clothes pinned down with sticks.(these two babies being the children of local narcs is important.) The killer(s) may have seperated Chris and Stevie to send a message or confuse the investigation. I feel like Michael Moore may have been "in the wrong place at the wrong time" and he wasn't even a target ...

Imma go visit that site now, Brittany, thanks ..
Shabaka

Jackson, MS

#220 Feb 19, 2010
jusjulie wrote:
my theory as to how the babies ended up in RHH ..(I have no motive or 100% suspects)
They were killed someplace else. Brought to the blue beacon truckstop (its opened 24/7 so I car pulling in there wouldn't be unusual) drove to the back of BB, thru the meadow, to the pond, around the tree's to the entrance of the woods. They took the Bikes and dumped them by the pipes (to make it look like the babies came there on their own free will) However, they didn't take into consideration (or knowledge) that Chris was affraid to cross the pipes. Chris and Stevie were placed in the same area in the ditch and the clothes pinned down with sticks.(these two babies being the children of local narcs is important.) The killer(s) may have seperated Chris and Stevie to send a message or confuse the investigation. I feel like Michael Moore may have been "in the wrong place at the wrong time" and he wasn't even a target ...
Imma go visit that site now, Brittany, thanks ..
LOL You've obviously never been to the site that you describe...
jusjulie

San Antonio, TX

#221 Feb 19, 2010
Shabaka wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL You've obviously never been to the site that you describe...
I will assume that u can't read ... and I will leave it to u to figure out why I said that .. LMFAO!
Shabaka

Jackson, MS

#222 Feb 19, 2010
jusjulie wrote:
<quoted text>
I will assume that u can't read ... and I will leave it to u to figure out why I said that .. LMFAO!
I can read and that's why it's obvious you've never been to the site. Your theory is full of holes...
jusjulie

San Antonio, TX

#223 Feb 19, 2010
Shabaka wrote:
<quoted text>
I can read and that's why it's obvious you've never been to the site. Your theory is full of holes...
MY theory would mean MY thoughts .. it's not a site and i'm not sure why u even thought it was a site ..
lemme help u
theory: 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
now MY theory was based on the facts as I saw them ..(i gathered the facts for MY theory thru reading many sites, books, newpaper articles, and maps, to answer any questions that I had ..) if u have a problem with MY theory .. take some time, gather ur own facts, and come up with ur own theory ..
Its a discussion, maybe u didn't notice, if u have something to add to the convo, feel free and welcome .. if not .. maybe u should troll along .. g'day
jusjulie

San Antonio, TX

#224 Feb 19, 2010
brittany wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the homes were not properly searched. The police retrieved some of the children's clothing for matching purposes, but the victim's homes were not searched as other suspect's homes were. Read the story on midsouthjustice.com , it's got a very detailed account of the families involved, the corruption in the police department, as well as an officer who was poisoned prior to the WM3 events after being assigned a job to expose WMPD corruption... I think there is a LOT more to this than what the media put on. The families are directly involved, there were a lot of drug issues involved, and the WMPD was right in the middle of it. You should check out that site, it has scanned copies of police files ect. And personally I think the step fathers were the ones sexually abusing the boys. There are no reports of the convicted ever coming into contact with the boys.
I found the midsouthjustice.com site VERY interesting .. However, I was left with more questions ..lol ..
I will tell u the questions I have after I am able to see all the photo copies (hard to see them from my phone).. my questions may be answered in those documented interviews ..
thank u, for pointing me in that direction ..

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