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Sneaky - Municipal Commission Increasing Rates

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Quack

Saint Johnsville, NY

#1 Mar 4, 2013
Do you want to make a statement about your electric bill increase of 2 or 3 times the normal rate. Just pay your bill 3 weeks to 6 weeks late. This protest will make them sweat. If it doesn't make them sweat then maybe it will slow them down from buying any more expensive vehicles.

This increase makes the value of your home drop. It makes all homes worth less.

You can put pressure on them by delaying your payment for 1 or 2 months.

For the first time ever, I don't feel any advantage to living in this town.
xxx

Boonville, NY

#2 Mar 4, 2013
Quack wrote:
Do you want to make a statement about your electric bill increase of 2 or 3 times the normal rate. Just pay your bill 3 weeks to 6 weeks late. This protest will make them sweat. If it doesn't make them sweat then maybe it will slow them down from buying any more expensive vehicles.
This increase makes the value of your home drop. It makes all homes worth less.
You can put pressure on them by delaying your payment for 1 or 2 months.
For the first time ever, I don't feel any advantage to living in this town.
They dont care if you pay bill or not.. no pay, no electric.. they wont hesitate to shut you off and then ask for another down payment to turn back on after you pay bill.. They win no matter what unless enough people file complaints with attorney general or governor...
huhh

Ithaca, NY

#3 Mar 5, 2013
Public service commission is where you complain!
Kelly

Boonville, NY

#4 Mar 5, 2013
xxx wrote:
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They dont care if you pay bill or not.. no pay, no electric.. they wont hesitate to shut you off and then ask for another down payment to turn back on after you pay bill.. They win no matter what unless enough people file complaints with attorney general or governor...
....and a late fee!!!
wHaTeVeR

Gloversville, NY

#5 Mar 6, 2013
Sneaky? I think not. Apparently some of you didn't read the news paper about the increase in electrical heating customers and everyone using over 2000 kwh. Understand a little bit about what goes on here and you would know they can only buy so much cheap hydro power per month. People already owning homes install electric heat or replace their furnace with an electric boiler or plug in electric heaters when they run out of oil boosting the demand for more. So they are forced to buy nuclear power to make up the difference. Now the total cost is divided up amongst all the customers. More and more people are heating with electric, especially after fuel oil went over $4.00 per gallon.
Complain to the Public Service Commission or the Municipal, not on here. Those employees are great and right there for you if the electric goes out. Even in the worst storms the longest I've ever been out of electricity is 6-8 hours.
How can anyone complain about the cost of electricity on the Municipal Commission?
The NY Power Authority increased Boonville's contract power allowance when Owl Wire went online in order to avoid increased purchased power costs to the residents. If you think back, Ethan Allen went out and the same thing happened, our rates go up in the winter (because its cold). Also, for the past several years Boonville Municipal Commission has been adding 30 or so houses a year as people from down state have been building "camps". The purchase power upcharge is only going to go up.
It is still without question the cheapest and most efficient electric company anywhere in the north country.
Insulation has gone a long way in REDUCING my electric bill!
All of you complaining don`t complain when the price of beer or whiskey go up. You just keep tipping those glasses and cans up.
Stop crying about your bill or live like the Amish do.
I can count on one hand how many times we have lost power in Boonville for any length of time over the past 25 years. Grid customers are always loosing power and it takes forever for it to go back on. Boonville Municipal does a great job and we should be grateful.
Funny no one ever winces about municipal bill in the warmer months, when it's like 20/month. It's winter and it has been extremely COLD. Be glad you aren't paying National Grids rates.
Rex

Ardsley, NY

#6 Mar 7, 2013
wHaTeVeR wrote:
Sneaky? I think not. Apparently some of you didn't read the news paper about the increase in electrical heating customers and everyone using over 2000 kwh. Understand a little bit about what goes on here and you would know they can only buy so much cheap hydro power per month. People already owning homes install electric heat or replace their furnace with an electric boiler or plug in electric heaters when they run out of oil boosting the demand for more. So they are forced to buy nuclear power to make up the difference. Now the total cost is divided up amongst all the customers. More and more people are heating with electric, especially after fuel oil went over $4.00 per gallon.
Complain to the Public Service Commission or the Municipal, not on here. Those employees are great and right there for you if the electric goes out. Even in the worst storms the longest I've ever been out of electricity is 6-8 hours.
How can anyone complain about the cost of electricity on the Municipal Commission?
The NY Power Authority increased Boonville's contract power allowance when Owl Wire went online in order to avoid increased purchased power costs to the residents. If you think back, Ethan Allen went out and the same thing happened, our rates go up in the winter (because its cold). Also, for the past several years Boonville Municipal Commission has been adding 30 or so houses a year as people from down state have been building "camps". The purchase power upcharge is only going to go up.
It is still without question the cheapest and most efficient electric company anywhere in the north country.
Insulation has gone a long way in REDUCING my electric bill!
All of you complaining don`t complain when the price of beer or whiskey go up. You just keep tipping those glasses and cans up.
Stop crying about your bill or live like the Amish do.
I can count on one hand how many times we have lost power in Boonville for any length of time over the past 25 years. Grid customers are always loosing power and it takes forever for it to go back on. Boonville Municipal does a great job and we should be grateful.
Funny no one ever winces about municipal bill in the warmer months, when it's like 20/month. It's winter and it has been extremely COLD. Be glad you aren't paying National Grids rates.
Do my eyes decieve me? Did you just put an information based opinion on topix?Very nice and thank you for actually taking the time to not only look into the situation but also post it. To bad it will fall on def ears. The lynch mob has already been formed.
wHaTeVeR

Gloversville, NY

#7 Mar 7, 2013
Sneaky huh. But its all true.
twice

Gloversville, NY

#8 Mar 7, 2013
My bill doubled. Now that is really strange. I have been out of the area since October. My house has little to nothing running since no one has been there. Nothing has changed since October except the large bill.
Temp

Venice, FL

#9 Mar 7, 2013
Nothing changed since October? How about the temperature???? DUH. The colder the temps the more people use their electric heat. The more electric heat we use, the more power the MC needs to purchase from NY Power, the more purchase power on your bill, the higher it is. It's pretty simple to me. You pay for what you use. When people are used to getting everything for nothing, they don't understand the concept. Stop your bit*hing! We're lucky to have the MC in Boonville.
twice wrote:
My bill doubled. Now that is really strange. I have been out of the area since October. My house has little to nothing running since no one has been there. Nothing has changed since October except the large bill.
twice

Gloversville, NY

#10 Mar 7, 2013
Temp wrote:
Nothing changed since October? How about the temperature???? DUH. The colder the temps the more people use their electric heat. The more electric heat we use, the more power the MC needs to purchase from NY Power, the more purchase power on your bill, the higher it is. It's pretty simple to me. You pay for what you use. When people are used to getting everything for nothing, they don't understand the concept. Stop your bit*hing! We're lucky to have the MC in Boonville.
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I am not heating an entire house. My home is CLOSED UP for the winter. How does my bill double? Is there a problem with the books at the municipal commision? It sounds like something is going on.
twice

Gloversville, NY

#11 Mar 7, 2013
Temp wrote:
Nothing changed since October? How about the temperature???? DUH. The colder the temps the more people use their electric heat. The more electric heat we use, the more power the MC needs to purchase from NY Power, the more purchase power on your bill, the higher it is. It's pretty simple to me. You pay for what you use. When people are used to getting everything for nothing, they don't understand the concept. Stop your bit*hing! We're lucky to have the MC in Boonville.
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Perhps you have lost your perspective from working there too long. I think I have finally figured out who you are. I don't feel lucky to have them. If I had known the rates would have eventually matched national grid, I could have bought a nicer home in national grid territory. There were so many to choose from. I was so wrong to let cheap power influence my buying choices. It was a temporary myth and nothing more than that.
Randall Flagg

Gloversville, NY

#12 Mar 10, 2013
twice wrote:
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Perhps you have lost your perspective from working there too long. I think I have finally figured out who you are. I don't feel lucky to have them. If I had known the rates would have eventually matched national grid, I could have bought a nicer home in national grid territory. There were so many to choose from. I was so wrong to let cheap power influence my buying choices. It was a temporary myth and nothing more than that.
The bill goes up in the winter every year. You can sell your house and move someplace else where you'll live happily ever after while paying National Grid prices, or you can throw a few extra bucks on the bill during those months when you're spoiled by the cheap price of Boonville power, so as to build up a surplus in your account to help in the bad months. Can you afford to put an extra $40.00 on your bill during the good months? I can, and I'm on a fixed income. I bet you could also.
One other thing, the next time you buy a house ask the realtor for a printout indicating utility costs for a couple of years. That's what experienced buyers do so they dont get surprised.
Municipal blows

West Monroe, NY

#13 Mar 10, 2013
wHaTeVeR u can go f@%K urself and go back to work on monday and collect your 70 grand a year paycheck from the commission you dont need to be on here running your mouth FU BUDDY
Justin Case

New York, NY

#14 Mar 10, 2013
I have National grid and only pay 200 in the winter and around 60 in the summer. But I don't get to live in the great town of BOONVILLE LMAO!
Hydro

Utica, NY

#15 Mar 10, 2013
What should be done is put in a couple more hydro gens to meet the demand and supply the surrounding areas with much less expensive power! Black River has 24-7 flow for however many hydro facilities! Lets keep paying out the ass for electric when the means are staring us all in the face for much much less expensive electric! The revenues that could be brought in from expanding the Boonville power out into other areas would surely help good ole Boonville too!
serial

Gloversville, NY

#16 Mar 11, 2013
I think we just paid for the snowsled races. A waste of money.
I Got the Power

Boonville, NY

#17 Mar 11, 2013
twice wrote:
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I am not heating an entire house. My home is CLOSED UP for the winter. How does my bill double? Is there a problem with the books at the municipal commision? It sounds like something is going on.
wHaTeVeR explained it correclty above. Boonville has a contract for a certain amount of cheap power every month. We exceed that amount in the winter and have to purchase the power from the Grid at market prices. That cost gets divided among all Municipal Commission users based on the amount of power they used that month.
It is broken out on your Bill under "Purchased Power Upcharge". The upcharge does get a little worse every year as more houses heat with electric. And, you can make the argument that it is not fair for the people who do not heat with electric to have to pay more if their monthly power consumption didn't increase from what it was in the Summer.
However, the system is what it is; there is nothing wrong with the "books".
Negativity All around

Poynette, WI

#18 Mar 11, 2013
Exactly and the higher the price of oil, the more people heat with cheap Boonville Electric. When people run out of oil it's easy to turn up the electric heat. Unfortunately we all pay for the usuage. That's the way it is.
I Got the Power wrote:
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wHaTeVeR explained it correclty above. Boonville has a contract for a certain amount of cheap power every month. We exceed that amount in the winter and have to purchase the power from the Grid at market prices. That cost gets divided among all Municipal Commission users based on the amount of power they used that month.
It is broken out on your Bill under "Purchased Power Upcharge". The upcharge does get a little worse every year as more houses heat with electric. And, you can make the argument that it is not fair for the people who do not heat with electric to have to pay more if their monthly power consumption didn't increase from what it was in the Summer.
However, the system is what it is; there is nothing wrong with the "books".
Municipal blows

West Monroe, NY

#19 Mar 11, 2013
them guys that work for them make way 2 much $$$$$ 4 what they do it is BS thats why rates r so much....id like 2 c ken stabbs pay check$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I Got the Power

Boonville, NY

#20 Mar 11, 2013
Municipal blows wrote:
them guys that work for them make way 2 much $$$$$ 4 what they do it is BS thats why rates r so much....id like 2 c ken stabbs pay check$$$$$$$$$$
The Municipal Commission's base rate is the lowest by far of anyplace in the area and their reponse rate for outages is excellent. It's the purchased power that causes the increase in the winter months.

And, Ken's salary is on the low side for an electrical engineer with his years of experience.

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