Demand for nurses rises in Indiana

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Nursing jobs are hot across Indiana, according a report from Indiana University's Kelley School of Business.

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Jan 17, 2008
 
Jan wrote:
I have been an LPN Psych nurse for 3 years; and as of yet; I cannot get a Med Surg job; so I am wondering "where IS the nursing shortage????" No one appears to want to give me the time or experience.
During WW2 we had 6 million men and women in the service. When it was over they all came home and started having babies. Ever heard of baby boomers well now most of the baby boomers are in their late 50's to 60's. They will retire and not to much in the future that group will need retirement homes, nursing homes, ect. That field of work will be huge.
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Jan 17, 2008
 
Indpls Resident wrote:
Do you need a BA or BS to be an RN? I'm just curious.
Actually you can be an RN with a associates degree.

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Jan 17, 2008
 
Jan wrote:
I have been an LPN Psych nurse for 3 years; and as of yet; I cannot get a Med Surg job; so I am wondering "where IS the nursing shortage????" No one appears to want to give me the time or experience.
The problem is that hospitals don't want to hire LPN's anymore. They are all trying to get their Magnet status, which means they can't have LPN's working the floor. What they need to do is get off their high horse and realize that us LPN's can be just as good at our job as the RN's. And we can pretty much do anything an RN can do except for a few things.

The biggest problem is not enough nurses and not enough nursing instructors to teach.

As far as the BS...I am currently in my last semester of an associates program for my RN. When I graduate I will be able to get the same job with the same pay as an RN with a BS. Right now...there is not much difference. But there might be in the near future.
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Jan 17, 2008
 
I'm always in need of a naughty nurse.
RN--and proud to be one

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Jan 17, 2008
 
Belle4623 wrote:
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The problem is that hospitals don't want to hire LPN's anymore. They are all trying to get their Magnet status, which means they can't have LPN's working the floor. What they need to do is get off their high horse and realize that us LPN's can be just as good at our job as the RN's. And we can pretty much do anything an RN can do except for a few things.
The biggest problem is not enough nurses and not enough nursing instructors to teach.
As far as the BS...I am currently in my last semester of an associates program for my RN. When I graduate I will be able to get the same job with the same pay as an RN with a BS. Right now...there is not much difference. But there might be in the near future.
Magnet status is the hot item in hospitals today. Belle is correct, Magnet discourages use of LPNs for patient care in favor of RNs. Unfortunately,I feel that nursing schools are doing a great disservice to LPN students by not informing them that they will not likely not be hired by a hospital after graduation. Most LPNs will find employment in retirement homes, which is greatly needed, but may not be the career path they hoped to travel with their LPN.
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Jan 17, 2008
 
I am an RN, but truthfully: If I end up in the hospital, I would rather have a LPN give me care. My RN/IUPUI training taught me how to push papers,& when I graduated I felt like I didnt have much "hands on experience". Most of my nursing friends felt the same. When we arrived on the hospital medical floor, the LPN's were very good at patient care & I still see this today. LPN training gives good technical & patient care skills. Thanks LPN's !
It Makes A Difference

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Jan 17, 2008
 

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There is a statute (law) in IN (as in all other states too) that differentiates the practice between RNs and LPNs - BIG DIFFERENCE! A nurse is NOT a nurse is NOT a nurse...
Schools cannot increase the number of enrollees - not enough nursing faculty. When it is reported that there is a nursing shortage, it includes faculty. The average age of an RN is now 46-48 but the average age of a faculty member is mid-50's. There is a pay disparity that exists between faculty and hospital-based nurses which makes it hard to attract them.
I started with a 2 year ASN, will soon graduate with my MSN and start a PhD program next year. Most people do not appreciate the difference that further education makes but the research does and so do I and so do our PATIENTS.
Patients have better outcomes when the nurses are prepared minimally at a BSN level and the nurse to patient ratio meets the needs of the patient and the nurse.
Registered Nursing is a profession and it's time that we, RNs, demanded it to be treated like one by not allowing LPNs to work at the same level and to demand that the minimal preparation is BSN.
Pharmacists now have to have a PharmD, many PAs are now in programs that require a post-bachelors education and physicians must attend medical school post-bachelors. WHY would we not want RNs to be at least BSN prepared...
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Jan 17, 2008
 
Indpls Resident wrote:
Do you need a BA or BS to be an RN? I'm just curious.
No you do not.

There are 2-yr programs to become Registered Nurses.
Indiana University recently dropped their 2-yr programs and now only offer the 4-yr BSN.

Ivy Tech has taken up the slack and really has a very good 2-yr ASN program.

The ASN programs are very accelerated though, and very difficult because 4 yrs are basically crammed into two; with the exception of not taking the research and managment classes.

You do have to have the prerequisites completed prior to being admitted to the program though - Anatomy, Microbiology, Psychology (2 levels), Physiology, Sociology, and the basic ones of college-level English, and for some reason, Speech class.

Also, ASNs are paid the same as BSNs, until you move into the upper level management positions.

And 'NO', it would not be a good idea for expanded visas to import foreign nurses. They have a fraction of the training and have not been able to pass State Boards to get their licenses.

Do you really want third-world nurses taking care of your loved ones?

The solution is to make more funds available for American students to go to college; it is just too expensive for a lot of people to go these days.

Most upper health care fields are so intense now that people just about cannot work while being in college; there is just too much to know these days as compared to 40 years ago - that makes it tough to afford to go. Today, the students who can't make it through nursing school, or even medical school, are the ones who tried to work even just part time while in the programs.

Unfortunately, once you are in the 'actual' nursing programs, the classes left to take are only offered from 8-4pm daily......and you have to be 'full-time' in college........no part-time nursing classes.

I commend those who can still work part-time while in the nursing programs full-time, but most people don't have that capability......
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Jan 17, 2008
 
Oh, and I forgot, 3 other prerequisites for the ASN program are college-level Algebra, Finite Math, and a computer class. So the prerequisites alone total 40 credit hours.

The good news is, that if you've been in college before, you might have some, or most, of the prerequisites already completed.

The past several years, older women, whose children have left the nest, have started entering nursing school in droves....this is a good thing!!!!

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Jan 17, 2008
 
It Makes A Difference wrote:
There is a statute (law) in IN (as in all other states too) that differentiates the practice between RNs and LPNs - BIG DIFFERENCE! A nurse is NOT a nurse is NOT a nurse...

I started with a 2 year ASN, will soon graduate with my MSN and start a PhD program next year. Most people do not appreciate the difference that further education makes but the research does and so do I and so do our PATIENTS.
Patients have better outcomes when the nurses are prepared minimally at a BSN level and the nurse to patient ratio meets the needs of the patient and the nurse.
Registered Nursing is a profession and it's time that we, RNs, demanded it to be treated like one by not allowing LPNs to work at the same level and to demand that the minimal preparation is BSN.
Pharmacists now have to have a PharmD, many PAs are now in programs that require a post-bachelors education and physicians must attend medical school post-bachelors. WHY would we not want RNs to be at least BSN prepared...
Wow, this just reminds me that I do not want to be like this when I get my RN. I work with many LPN's that are just as great at there job and just as knowledgeable about their patients as the RN's are. I also have worked with some RN's that don't know a thing and have horrible patient care.

I feel like the training that Ivy Tech has given me in the ASN program is excellent. I also know for a fact that we get more clinical, hands on experience than a lot of the BSN programs get. And any nurse will tell you that you learn almost nothing in a classroom setting compared to the clinical setting. I sure hope that when I get out of school I do not work with any RN's that have the same attitude that you display.
Larry Bolton

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#32
Jan 17, 2008
 
'Dems are bad?' Is that really your name? What an jerk!
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#33
Jan 17, 2008
 
My opinion only, but I honestly believe the government is intentionally restricting the amount of nurses and health care professionals through limited educational facilities. With our resources, how hard can it be to open up another specialized school for healthcare professionals? This shortage of healthcare professionals artificially keeps the cost of health care high, which in turns leads to the argument that government is the solution to our healthcare problem. If government can control the source of healing, then they control the power of healing and they maintain their ever increasing control over our lives! Think about it, they already want our kids in government run pre-K through 12th grade "indoctrination", they provide healthcare and housing and a ton of other entitlement programs for the "less fortunate". There are virtually no limitations to how many illegitimate children a female can have and then collect a government check for each one, and many people get more money back each year than what they payed in taxes. The more people that are dependent upon government, the more powerful government becomes!
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Jan 17, 2008
 
I work as a RN at a hospital that has magnet status and now that I think of it we have very few LPN's on the floor I am on. While I think our LPN's are higly intelligent and VERY compitent individuals it's also hard to have an LPN on the floor because in addition to my patient load I will have to "mentor" at least one of the LPN's patients. Which means I hvae to do a full assessment, give any IV medications a patient might have, and if she gets an admit to the roon I have to do it. It gets a little hairy at times
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Jan 17, 2008
 
MollyRN wrote:
I work as a RN at a hospital that has magnet status and now that I think of it we have very few LPN's on the floor I am on. While I think our LPN's are higly intelligent and VERY compitent individuals it's also hard to have an LPN on the floor because in addition to my patient load I will have to "mentor" at least one of the LPN's patients. Which means I hvae to do a full assessment, give any IV medications a patient might have, and if she gets an admit to the roon I have to do it. It gets a little hairy at times
These magnet status hospitals are unrealistic. Its all about money. RN's only, low nurse to patient ratio, better care, blah blah blah. Then, 3 days later when your insurance no longer pays 100%, its time to discharge the patient to a rehab/skilled facility where the majority of the nurses are LPN's. Keep in mind, this LPN is now responsible for not 3-5 patients but 18-25. These are the nurses who do not get the credit deserved. Admissions, assessments, IV therapy, woundcare, respiratory therapy, peritoneal dialysis, trache/gtubes, charting. These are hard worked nurses with a great deal of experience. Its a shame to hear these nurses would have no status in a hospital.

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Jan 17, 2008
 
Carmel resident wrote:
<quoted text>These magnet status hospitals are unrealistic. Its all about money. RN's only, low nurse to patient ratio, better care, blah blah blah. Then, 3 days later when your insurance no longer pays 100%, its time to discharge the patient to a rehab/skilled facility where the majority of the nurses are LPN's. Keep in mind, this LPN is now responsible for not 3-5 patients but 18-25. These are the nurses who do not get the credit deserved. Admissions, assessments, IV therapy, woundcare, respiratory therapy, peritoneal dialysis, trache/gtubes, charting. These are hard worked nurses with a great deal of experience. Its a shame to hear these nurses would have no status in a hospital.
As a current LPN, I thank you for recognizing our hard work.
Nita Dhakal Poudyal

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#38
Jan 18, 2008
 
Hi,
I am a foreign nurse, graduated from Nepal, now i am in Indiana state with my husband, i am looking for job in indiana as a nurse and i dont no what are the process to get the license as a foreign nurse to work in indiana, as well as how do i find the hospita here,
pls anyone help me. or email me at nitadhakal@hotmail.com
thank you,

“God Bless America”

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#39
Jan 19, 2008
 
Nita Dhakal Poudyal wrote:
Hi,
I am a foreign nurse, graduated from Nepal, now i am in Indiana state with my husband, i am looking for job in indiana as a nurse and i dont no what are the process to get the license as a foreign nurse to work in indiana, as well as how do i find the hospita here,
pls anyone help me. or email me at nitadhakal@hotmail.com
thank you,
I would not post my e-mail address. You might contact the Indiana State Nursing Association. You could probably google it.
Need medical attention

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#40
Jan 20, 2008
 
Well isn't this a fine kettle of fish. Not enough nurses, so people who are ill too bad, because the "all knowing, all powerful universities" will decide when and if - you get the proper care before and after surgery by a good competent nurse, male or female. And we all know the "universities" are so omnipotent that we dare not ask a question that any 8th grader would ask. "Oh a why don't they hire more teachers"? Oh close your mouth child never, never question the"universities" you blasphemer.
anu

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#41
Dec 4, 2008
 
Hi all,
I am planning to take nclex soon I would like to know if i have to focus on time during exam as well? IF incase i am out of time do i fail the exam?
please help me to solve this question.
thank you so much.
Michelle

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#42
Dec 23, 2010
 
Thank you for acknowledging the skills of the LPN. I was fortunate to get 1 year of med/surg hospital experience as an LVN in California before the big drop of LVN/LPNs. The comment made above about LPNs being able to do almost everything a RN can do is correct to a point. That's how I felt when I was working on the floor, but have come to realize that it's not the mechanical skills that make the difference between the LPN and the RN, so much as it is the more advanced critical thinking knowledge and skills. I think it's a shame that hospitals are discarding LPNs though because the LPN/RN combo is a far safer team than the CNA/RN, especially with higher acuity and increased patient:nurse ratios. Magnet status also pushes for higher educated nurses, which means that the BSN is going to be the next big thing. So, prepare now for the next hat to fall.

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