Gays call for senator to resign - The Park Record

State Sen. Chris Buttars, R-West Jordan, is shown on the Senate floor Friday after Senate leaders announced he would lose powerful committee positions in response to remarks he made that disparaged gay people.

[Richard]

Many Utahn's are not embarrassed by Senator Battars comments. He is the only state representive to tell the truth about the gays and point out how danderous these people are. They fabricate stories and try to present their thoughts as fact. Nothing is farther from the truth. The gays are the only ones trying to take away our First Amendment Rights to speak out against Intoleratance and Bigotry. The only hateful, bigots are the gays. We have the right to speak out against everything evil, while trying to stay civil. Why don't the gays? WE don't have to cave in to the gays and their terrorist activities against the people of Utah.

[Park City Ski Family]

For once we agree with Buttars. Homosexuality IS perversion and once again the gay community is doing there best to try to portray it as normal behavior in an attempt to join the mainstream.

[born that way]

Speak out against intolerance and bigotry? What world do you live on? Perversion? What world do you live on? We are part of the mainstream, we are normal people, just like you, but without the brainwashed bigotry that both your posts reflect.

[stones]

They are a very danderous peoples,?

[born that way]

I'm a danderous (sic) person? Is that a comment about my dandruff perhaps? Or the second post talking about "there best" (sic). Yes indeed, I'm a very danderous person - for accepting myself the way that god created me, not pretending to be a breeder. However, I must admit that I have never flown a jet into a skyscraper. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists, no matter what god they pray to.

http://www.uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html

[free speech]

That's the beauty of our country - for now. We can say and feel what we want- for now. Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion. Like it or not, we still have that right- for now. If people find it bad or offensive, then they will vote him out. I don't agree with him, but he has the right to his own thoughts and speech, after all- this is still America, right?

[Bartender]

It's a free country... people can live their private lives as they wish but they should not expect to have special laws passed in an attempt to legitimize deviant behavior. What Buttars said reflects what the majority in society believes.

[New in Town]

Yes, it is still a free country. Somehow, people have decided that it should be illegal to offend someone. If you are offended, be offended. Hell, things offend me all the time but I don't stage a rally or go on CNN to talk about how offended I am. Good Lord, people need to get over themselves. THere will NEVER be equality as long as the people asking for it insist on separating themselves from the rest of us. The day there is a "I'm straight and I was born that way...so, love me" rally, or bumper stickers that say "Hetero and Proud!" then I might listen to the whiners out there who think they are somehow special because they are different. And, make no bones about it, they ARE different. They are different because they bring their personal private lives out into the world and shove them down our throats when, really, we don't care who they sleep with.

[Gay Bartender]

The majority of society has believed a lot of things, it doesnt make it right. The Holocaust wasn’t right, slavery wasn’t right, stoning impure girls to death wasn’t right. Who cares what the majority of society believes? They are once again an educated people who are very ignorant on a subject. You can pass any law you want, but that’s not going to change sexuality. By giving gays a historically strong institution that is nothing more than a word and tax benefits; you give them a stronger psychological base to be committed to one person and that would be better for the entire society.

[NoMo]

Well here they are..Buttar's supporters. I was wondering if they would actually come out and defend him.

[Gay Bartender]

Park City Ski Family wrote:

For once we agree with Buttars. Homosexuality IS perversion and once again the gay community is doing there best to try to portray it as normal behavior in an attempt to join the mainstream.

Merriam Webster defines perversion as an aberrant sexual practice or interest especially when habitual.

I can see how you can define lusting the same sex as a aberrant sexual practice... But isn't that only half the equation here? How do you explain the lack of lust for the opposite sex? Is no sexual desire also a Perversion? I am no Historian here, but I am pretty sure that the math is simple and Buttars is writing himself a gray page in history. You may have picked the wrong pony in this dog and pony show Utah calls a senate.

[born that way]

NoMo wrote:

Well here they are..Buttar's supporters. I was wondering if they would actually come out and defend him.

Unbelievable! Would you publicly admit it if you voted for this jerk?

[Dave]

Homosexuals should show tolerance and forgiveness for others instead of trying to get Buttars booted and spending their time attacking him. The Christian thing to do is to spread the good word and warn our neighbors, i.e. homosexuals, otherwise we'll be in condemnation ourselves. I think we should be clear and speak out that homosexuality is wrong and that we care about them that is why we are telling them they need to repent or face condemnation. Homosexuals need to follow all of the principles of the gospel to be saved. I think that this is our duty. The truth is hard for the wicked.

[James French]

Hooray for Buttars standing up for freedom of speech. I wish more of our leaders in Utah and around the country would support our constitutional rights instead of stomping them out and giving homosexuals special rights and protections that infringe on everyone else's rights. Homosexuals have been the most intolerant bigoted group I've every seen. Look at the hundreds of churches and chapels that they have desicrated by homosexuals shooting out the windows and vandalizing them. I wish our leaders would crack down and speak out about the bigotry eminating from within the homosexual community and protect Christians from these kinds of retributions.

[Homosexuality is a choice]

I'm glad that someone is standing up for Christianity and denouncing homosexuals. You may be born with same sex attraction, but that doesn't mean that you have to act on them. Maybe homosexuals aren't as dangerous as radical Islamic extremists yet, but just wait I wouldn't be surprised if homosexuals started blowing Christians up in the near future. Buttars should be allowed to voice his personal opinion without retribution. Homosexuals are trying to silence those that disagree with them. The LDS Church definitely opposes homosexuality otherwise why would they be immediately excommunicated. The Church just wouldn't list homosexuals as jihadists. Maybe the Church will in the future if homosexuals go to jihadist extremes to force their views on others.

[born that way]

Dave wrote:

Homosexuals should show tolerance and forgiveness for others ...I think we should be clear and speak out that homosexuality is wrong and that we care about them that is why we are telling them they need to repent or face condemnation.... I think that this is our duty. The truth is hard for the wicked.

Now I'm wicked too. That plus the dandruff. What's a poor boy to do? You should stop after your first clause - you should show tolerance and forgiveness for others. That should be the end of your post. Love the sinner, hate the sin, right? It ain't a sin, buddy. It's the way your creator made me. Take it up with him (her) and stop busting my chops over being the way I was created. And stop taking away my rights.

[New in Town]

N.B. The "New in Town" from Cedar City is a different person, not "New in Town" from Park City - and his/her comments in no way represent my views. Quite the contrary. If NiT-CC really didn't "care who they sleep with", then why support discriminating against them on that basis? There is no need to proclaim "Hetero and Proud" when there is no discrimination against people based on their being heterosexual. It is not illegal to offend someone, but it SHOULD be illegal to deny them the rights available to others - like housing, jobs, medical care, inheritance rights, etc.- based on their sexual orientation. How sexually insecure must NiT-CC be to feel threatened by the possibility that a gay man might one day have the right as a "family member" to visit his ailing life partner in the hospital, or for them to have a joint lease or mortgage, or employer life insurance benefits? A couple of generations ago, a teeny-weenie like Nit-CC would have felt the same way about women having equal rights - after all, they must be inferior to men because "make no bones about it, they ARE different".

[born that way]

Homosexuality is a choice wrote:

I'm glad that someone is standing up for Christianity and denouncing homosexuals. You may be born with same sex attraction, but that doesn't mean that you have to act on them. Maybe homosexuals aren't as dangerous as radical Islamic extremists yet, but just wait I wouldn't be surprised if homosexuals started blowing Christians up in the near future. Buttars should be allowed to voice his personal opinion without retribution. Homosexuals are trying to silence those that disagree with them. The LDS Church definitely opposes homosexuality otherwise why would they be immediately excommunicated. The Church just wouldn't list homosexuals as jihadists. Maybe the Church will in the future if homosexuals go to jihadist extremes to force their views on others.

Just who exactly is blowing things up? Fundamentalists. You religious types need to stop flying jets into our skyscrapers. There is nary a shred of difference between you and the muslim fundamentalists. You all want the same things.

http://www.uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html

[NoMo]

born that way wrote:

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Unbelievable! Would you publicly admit it if you voted for this jerk?

I would never vote for him or anyone like him. To me, he is like a Klansman who sees no need to wear his hood. Narrow minded and rock solid in his bigotry..

[stones]

Born, I feel for you man. you are not dealing with reality here...it's the usual suspects ranting and raving.