Montes Seeks Board of Ed Seat

Apr 4, 2012 Full story: Patch.com 111

West Islip resident Glenn Montes has submitted nomination petitions to run against current Board of Education President Steve Gellar.

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Good for Glenn

West Islip, NY

#1 Apr 5, 2012
He has my support and my vote!
More info

West Islip, NY

#2 Apr 5, 2012
I will need more info on him, not just that he is running for a seat. Will they release info or do we have to wait for meet the candidate night?
He has my vote

West Islip, NY

#3 Apr 5, 2012
More info wrote:
I will need more info on him, not just that he is running for a seat. Will they release info or do we have to wait for meet the candidate night?
I suggest that you go to the WI Patch and read some of the things he has written there, after that, I think you will get a better feel for this man's style and values and beliefs. He seems to have a pretty good handle of the issues and he definitely does his homework!
More info

West Islip, NY

#4 Apr 5, 2012
Thanks but I was thinking more along the lines of any official information. I am going to stay away from any decision making from reading The Patch blogs or here for that matter.
med

Deer Park, NY

#5 Apr 5, 2012
Yes you will get info. I believe it will done after April 16 once all petitions are in. It is usually sent home from the school as well as in the South Bay paper too.
More info

West Islip, NY

#6 Apr 5, 2012
med wrote:
Yes you will get info. I believe it will done after April 16 once all petitions are in. It is usually sent home from the school as well as in the South Bay paper too.
Thanks, I will wait for that info to come. Like I said I will not base any decision I make on anything I have read from here or Patch
He has my vote

West Islip, NY

#7 Apr 5, 2012
More info wrote:
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Thanks, I will wait for that info to come. Like I said I will not base any decision I make on anything I have read from here or Patch
I don't think you understand what I wrote. Mr. Montes writes editorial pieces and blogs for the Patch. He has numerous articles he has written in his own words about his ideas about the issues and if you read some you can glean from how he writes and what he writes about on each subject pretty much where he stands on the issues. One thing that I didn't like about him so much was that he decided to just "move forward" when he was such a spirited leader in the fight to keep open two elementary schools. That aside, I like how he thinks, so I hope that he sticks to his guns as a hard core supporter of the tax payers, and that stands by his own written words and ideas. If he can do that, because he has committed his views to writing, I think we will have a quality candidate on our hands.
Plagiarism

West Islip, NY

#8 Apr 5, 2012
Actually everything he writes is plagiarism. Google some of his "statements" and you will get tea party policy that has been lifted from someone else. His politics are front and center, and I'm not sure someone with an obvious political agenda should be on the school board.

Taxpayers? The governor already took care of the taxpayer by putting in a tax cap. The question for mr minutes is how will he preserve current programs while staying within the cap?
He has my vote

West Islip, NY

#9 Apr 5, 2012
Plagiarism wrote:
Actually everything he writes is plagiarism. Google some of his "statements" and you will get tea party policy that has been lifted from someone else. His politics are front and center, and I'm not sure someone with an obvious political agenda should be on the school board.
Taxpayers? The governor already took care of the taxpayer by putting in a tax cap. The question for mr minutes is how will he preserve current programs while staying within the cap?
Look who brought up politics, YOU DID! So let me guess, you are a die hard lib? Imposing a tax cap is only one small step for all the tax payers, but we need someone to take a giant step for the future of West Islip and our children!
Republican

West Islip, NY

#10 Apr 5, 2012
No. Not a liberal. A lifelong republican. Just believe political agendas should not be part of the boe. Obviously mr. Montes has one. That's all. Just my opinion. I'll be listening to see what mr. Montes proposes to do to make your "giant" step. Not pie in the sky scenarios but hard decision making, ya know, kind of what the current board did this year. After all, the easy way out would have been to hold the taxpayers hostage by saying , either pierce the cap or loose full day kindergarten and sports. Exactly what is going on in
east Islip right now, according to today's news day. Would you have rather had that happen?

If you take your emotion out of it for one second you will see the fiscal reonsibility our boe has shown with this budget.
He has my vote

West Islip, NY

#11 Apr 6, 2012
Republican wrote:
No. Not a liberal. A lifelong republican. Just believe political agendas should not be part of the boe. Obviously mr. Montes has one. That's all. Just my opinion. I'll be listening to see what mr. Montes proposes to do to make your "giant" step. Not pie in the sky scenarios but hard decision making, ya know, kind of what the current board did this year. After all, the easy way out would have been to hold the taxpayers hostage by saying , either pierce the cap or loose full day kindergarten and sports. Exactly what is going on in
east Islip right now, according to today's news day. Would you have rather had that happen?
If you take your emotion out of it for one second you will see the fiscal reonsibility our boe has shown with this budget.
I don't need a pair of Rose colored glasses, if you take yours off, you will see the reality for what it is. We have decided to close two elementary schools, that in and of itself is by far worse than half day kindergarten and some middle school sports or JV sports being cut, and no I don't buy the Newsday.
Perfect

West Islip, NY

#12 Apr 6, 2012
Perfect, instead of consolidating our elementary schools which had 30 unused classrooms spread out across the district, you would have instead eliminated full day kindergarten ( giving you even more empty classrooms) for a savings of about 500k and then you would eliminate middle school and jv sports, maybe saving another 500k, maybe. So where are you getting the next 2million that would be needed to make up the difference in the 3milion saved by shutting the schools?

My take on you, you really don't care about wo sits in the seat, you are just angry that your school was shut and your looking for payback. Not really interested in the facts or th issues at all.
Uncle Sam

West Islip, NY

#13 Apr 6, 2012
Republican wrote:
No. Not a liberal. A lifelong republican. Just believe political agendas should not be part of the boe. Obviously mr. Montes has one. That's all. Just my opinion. I'll be listening to see what mr. Montes proposes to do to make your "giant" step. Not pie in the sky scenarios but hard decision making, ya know, kind of what the current board did this year. After all, the easy way out would have been to hold the taxpayers hostage by saying , either pierce the cap or loose full day kindergarten and sports. Exactly what is going on in
east Islip right now, according to today's news day. Would you have rather had that happen?
If you take your emotion out of it for one second you will see the fiscal reonsibility our boe has shown with this budget.
I am all about recognizing why we got here in the first place. The reason why we did is due to the weak decisions made by the boe for years and years, allowing additional administration to our tax burdens and laying of positions, positions whose responsibilities should have been delegated to existing admin and director positions. The fiscal crisis this town, country has been under for the past several years TOLD our district exactly what not to do with our tax dollars. We added pet programs and did home improvements to schools when (if we go by the half empty buildings analysis) we should have known that this money was going to be used on a possible shuttered school due to the "student decline" over the past seven years. We keep on affording increases to salaries, and perks etc. but in the next breath, we close 2 elementary schools that suddenly get coined "half empty and underutilized" when in more prosperous times, they were desirable for their "smaller class sizes". We could have kept these smaller class sizes and half empty buildings if our priorities were in the right place over the years, pure and simple education. As it stands, the arrangements to accomodate the influx of students into the existing schools has a price tag and until those two completely empty buildings are rented, we will be paying the bills for light and heat and security among other things there.
The boe has been having a happy fizzy party with our dime and today we pay for it in more ways than monetarily.
More rhetoric

West Islip, NY

#14 Apr 6, 2012
More rhetoric. Our district is not in any other position that every other school distinct is in. The funding of public school education on long island has never been equitable. Period. How many administrators do we currently have? How many staff members do they oversee? How many students are they responsible for? Double they number of parents they may communicate with.

Specifically what pet programs do you refer to? The dance program, that brought out people to request the boe keep it? The boces classes like personal training at 12k a pop, that the district is eliminating and being criticized for? The high potential program at the elementary schools that brought parents out in droves to request its retention? The ib program that has redefined higher order thinking skills and work ethic at the high school?

And so, you contend that the district should not have completed projects to our buildings but rather let the infrastructure deteriorate? Even though the completion of these projects was a proposal voted on by our community who wanted the projects completed and was structured in a way that 70% of the work was reimbursed by the state in excl aide? As well, it maintains one revenue source we may be ale o capitalize on?

Have you looked at the protected class szes for next year? Some are actually smaller then this year. Overall average class sizes are probably one of the lowest you will find anywhere.
So really everything you lam is pretty much based in fiction. Get your facts straight.
He has my vote

West Islip, NY

#15 Apr 6, 2012
More rhetoric wrote:
More rhetoric. Our district is not in any other position that every other school distinct is in. The funding of public school education on long island has never been equitable. Period. How many administrators do we currently have? How many staff members do they oversee? How many students are they responsible for? Double they number of parents they may communicate with.
Specifically what pet programs do you refer to? The dance program, that brought out people to request the boe keep it? The boces classes like personal training at 12k a pop, that the district is eliminating and being criticized for? The high potential program at the elementary schools that brought parents out in droves to request its retention? The ib program that has redefined higher order thinking skills and work ethic at the high school?
And so, you contend that the district should not have completed projects to our buildings but rather let the infrastructure deteriorate? Even though the completion of these projects was a proposal voted on by our community who wanted the projects completed and was structured in a way that 70% of the work was reimbursed by the state in excl aide? As well, it maintains one revenue source we may be ale o capitalize on?
Have you looked at the protected class szes for next year? Some are actually smaller then this year. Overall average class sizes are probably one of the lowest you will find anywhere.
So really everything you lam is pretty much based in fiction. Get your facts straight.
First off, when you have to compare our district to other districts, you are already revealing to me that you have a weak arguement right out of the blocks. We have a declining body of students, for the past seven years, so in reality we have a smaller student body than in years prior, years when we had one Super and Asst. Super and some directors. So actually we handled more with less. Today, with economic times being what they are, we need to delegate responsibilities not ADD to our hierarchy.
The fact is that our economy has been in a slump for many years now, West Islip has a what, 93% or higher homestead rate? Pay attention to that, that is why we need accountability. Therefore, guess what, you don't even consider let alone purchase the IB program, but especially when we already carry an outstanding AP program ,(which College Board recognized West Islip for last year). "The ib program that has redefined higher order thinking skills and work ethic at the high school?" Sorry, but if a flyer that went home about a month ago is any indication of this so called higher order of thinking, you have my sympathies.
There you go, of course, blame the community who wanted something at the time, when they didn't know what those in the drivers seat did know, and are paid ENORMOUS amounts of money and perks to know, well in advance by the way. That's pathetic!
He has my vote

West Islip, NY

#16 Apr 6, 2012
Perfect wrote:
Perfect, instead of consolidating our elementary schools which had 30 unused classrooms spread out across the district, you would have instead eliminated full day kindergarten ( giving you even more empty classrooms) for a savings of about 500k and then you would eliminate middle school and jv sports, maybe saving another 500k, maybe. So where are you getting the next 2million that would be needed to make up the difference in the 3milion saved by shutting the schools?
My take on you, you really don't care about wo sits in the seat, you are just angry that your school was shut and your looking for payback. Not really interested in the facts or th issues at all.
I would consolidate district office. Get rid of these super jobs, the top heavy admin which costs our district and I would delegate the responsibilities until we are back on our feet again. It wasn't an issue for years, and years, our schools were so called "half empty" and "smaller class sizes" for years. Status symbol ya know. UNTIL, something changed, and what changed was the spending on creating positions for the district and programs we don't need and other costs that relate to legal fees and such. That is where the money went.
Uncle Sam

West Islip, NY

#17 Apr 6, 2012
More rhetoric wrote:
More rhetoric. Our district is not in any other position that every other school distinct is in. The funding of public school education on long island has never been equitable. Period. How many administrators do we currently have? How many staff members do they oversee? How many students are they responsible for? Double they number of parents they may communicate with.
Specifically what pet programs do you refer to? The dance program, that brought out people to request the boe keep it? The boces classes like personal training at 12k a pop, that the district is eliminating and being criticized for? The high potential program at the elementary schools that brought parents out in droves to request its retention? The ib program that has redefined higher order thinking skills and work ethic at the high school?
And so, you contend that the district should not have completed projects to our buildings but rather let the infrastructure deteriorate? Even though the completion of these projects was a proposal voted on by our community who wanted the projects completed and was structured in a way that 70% of the work was reimbursed by the state in excl aide? As well, it maintains one revenue source we may be ale o capitalize on?
Have you looked at the protected class szes for next year? Some are actually smaller then this year. Overall average class sizes are probably one of the lowest you will find anywhere.
So really everything you lam is pretty much based in fiction. Get your facts straight.
Key word, PROJECTED class size, and utilizing office space and utility rooms lol, rooms that before were not classrooms, is how they are trying to accomodate these things. Maybe we can use the patented "Space Bag Storage System" if all else fails.
Lion Town

New York, NY

#18 Apr 6, 2012
I've read Mr Montes's blogs on the Patch. He is against after school sports and activities. He also wanted to close Beech Street MS and Kidahy ES. I will not be voting for him. Have a great Easter everyone.
Ray C

West Babylon, NY

#19 Apr 6, 2012
Montes has no experience, no credentials, no qualifications that would make people pick him over Gellar. He is just going to throw a bunch of BS out there hoping for a voting miracle.
Election Day

West Babylon, NY

#20 Apr 6, 2012
Lets get out and vote.

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