Common Core Curriculum

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SellYourHouseNow AndGetOut

Brentwood, NY

#1 Jun 4, 2013
http://www.schoolbook.org/2013/06/03/why-my-f...
4th, 5th, 6th & 8th graders took field tests today, which basically amount to nothing.
The Federal Government is taking over our education system and your high taxes are funding it! Your house value is going to go down and West Islip will have the same curriculum as the worst performing school districts in this country. Except you will be paying a lot more than those living in the worst performing districts.
Your privacy and the privacy of your children is being compromised.
West Islip has no money and has had to fire teachers, cut A LOT of program and it is all because they are implementing the Common Core Curriculum.
West Islip has received next to nothing in state/federal aid, yet we are forced to implement the curriculum on our dime.
Does anyone else see the problem in this?
Jessica Horvath

Brentwood, NY

#2 Jun 4, 2013
So true. Refused the state exams for my daughter and have no intention of being a part of this disaster. Really hope the boe sees the light and understands that the implementation of the common core completely removes local control of education!!!!!!!!!!
Jessica Horvath

Brentwood, NY

#3 Jun 4, 2013
Love how just because I say something these idiots come on here and mark it as nuts. You will see when your house value plummets, your kid has a wrist sensor on, and is subject to iris scans, they are spending 3/4 of the year learning to fill in bubbles on a test rather learning how to think critically, and they basically come out of school with no skills whatsoever.

Hope your kid is one of the "resilient" ones they are always talking about - the one that can pass these BS tests and come out of it ok, but 9 out of 10 aren't! Wake up!
mr james

West Islip, NY

#4 Jun 5, 2013
SellYourHouseNowAndGetOut wrote:
http://www.schoolbook.org/2013 /06/03/why-my-family-is-boycot ting-the-field-tests
4th, 5th, 6th & 8th graders took field tests today, which basically amount to nothing.
The Federal Government is taking over our education system and your high taxes are funding it! Your house value is going to go down and West Islip will have the same curriculum as the worst performing school districts in this country. Except you will be paying a lot more than those living in the worst performing districts.
Your privacy and the privacy of your children is being compromised.
West Islip has no money and has had to fire teachers, cut A LOT of program and it is all because they are implementing the Common Core Curriculum.
West Islip has received next to nothing in state/federal aid, yet we are forced to implement the curriculum on our dime.
Does anyone else see the problem in this?
I think the way it works is that since new york state chose to impose the common core curriculum, all districts must comply or they won't get their state aid $. It's not like wi is the only district that has to implemement the common core, every district has to comply. the problem lies in that some districts are doing a better job of it that others. look up your #'s, the amount of state aid wi gets has actually risen over the past couple of years.
Jessica Horvath

Brentwood, NY

#5 Jun 5, 2013
mr james wrote:
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I think the way it works is that since new york state chose to impose the common core curriculum, all districts must comply or they won't get their state aid $. It's not like wi is the only district that has to implemement the common core, every district has to comply. the problem lies in that some districts are doing a better job of it that others. look up your #'s, the amount of state aid wi gets has actually risen over the past couple of years.
We got $22,000 in state aid to implement a curriculum that will cost millions of dollars.

All of the testing that they do is all tied in as well as the data mining - putting all of your kids information as well as information about you in a longitidinal data system - which, the company who runs it takes no responsibility for leaks or breaches in security.

Other districts are getting fed up. I'm just saying, it makes financial sense to give them back their money and do our own thing.
Jessica Horvath

Brentwood, NY

#6 Jun 5, 2013
There's also this:

ZIP CODE DOES MATTER!

Adopting the Common Core State STANDARDS IS absolutely the problem It is under ONE BANNER. This snake needs to be cut off at the head. Teachers want to carve out APPR and aggressive testing which leads to punitive evaluations and that is very unfair, but CCSS will reduce the ability for teachers licensed to teach according to ones academic freedoms and expertise. This will stifle a child's unique potential for growth and depend on a set of standards handed down by an unanswerable hierarchical system to the constituency. Zip Code very much matters in this dialogue because the value of ones home has everything to do with school choice and school district. Speaking for Long Islanders, we pay some of the highest taxes in the country. The largest part of the taxes we pay is school district tax. Our property values have always been about school districts as well. Many Long Islanders (who could move elsewhere) chose to stay right here because we trust the school districts and the education system in place here in New York. Depending on your preferences a couple looking to buy a home will chose a particular school district for what they desire for their children, that may be the sports program, the high graduation rate, the large pool of graduates with AP honors, or it could be for the wonderful arts and science and music departments. The point is that most of us are affording these taxes because we CHOSE to pay for the school district we want our children to enjoy. We built these schools by virtue of our tax dollars into what they are today. With our time and our talents we have each devoted our lives to the reputation our schools carry through out this state. Our schools aren't perfect, but through local representation we are able to resolve any issues on a local level and improve what is failing as we see fit, and not by some federally appointed bureaucrat. So this argument about teacher evaluations and aggressive testing is only part of the whole train wreck power grab, it's about ZIP CODE, because zip code has always mattered. Who wants a home on Long Island with the costs and high taxes if they can buy an equally as lovely home
for less, in let's say Delaware, for the same exact ONE SIZE FITS ALL education and save about 10,000.00 a year in taxes? This is everyone's problem and that is why COMMON CORE has to GO!
JPK72471

West Islip, NY

#7 Jun 7, 2013
Jessica Horvath wrote:
<quoted text>
We got $22,000 in state aid to implement a curriculum that will cost millions of dollars.
All of the testing that they do is all tied in as well as the data mining - putting all of your kids information as well as information about you in a longitidinal data system - which, the company who runs it takes no responsibility for leaks or breaches in security.
Other districts are getting fed up. I'm just saying, it makes financial sense to give them back their money and do our own thing.
Can you provide the readers with a link for the 'millions' cost of implementing common core? No, I mean a valid link. Or are you relying on what 'they' tell you to be gospel truth?
Someone asked about your cyber spying on children data system at a boe meeting. Burns told them they didn't understand the concept. Obviously you don't understand the concept either. Which other districts are getting fed up Jessica? Do you have a link for that information or are the other districts calling you on your secret cyber spying on children hotline?
JPK72471

West Islip, NY

#8 Jun 7, 2013
Jessica Horvath wrote:
There's also this:
ZIP CODE DOES MATTER!
Adopting the Common Core State STANDARDS IS absolutely the problem It is under ONE BANNER. This snake needs to be cut off at the head. Teachers want to carve out APPR and aggressive testing which leads to punitive evaluations and that is very unfair, but CCSS will reduce the ability for teachers licensed to teach according to ones academic freedoms and expertise. This will stifle a child's unique potential for growth and depend on a set of standards handed down by an unanswerable hierarchical system to the constituency. Zip Code very much matters in this dialogue because the value of ones home has everything to do with school choice and school district. Speaking for Long Islanders, we pay some of the highest taxes in the country. The largest part of the taxes we pay is school district tax. Our property values have always been about school districts as well. Many Long Islanders (who could move elsewhere) chose to stay right here because we trust the school districts and the education system in place here in New York. Depending on your preferences a couple looking to buy a home will chose a particular school district for what they desire for their children, that may be the sports program, the high graduation rate, the large pool of graduates with AP honors, or it could be for the wonderful arts and science and music departments. The point is that most of us are affording these taxes because we CHOSE to pay for the school district we want our children to enjoy. We built these schools by virtue of our tax dollars into what they are today. With our time and our talents we have each devoted our lives to the reputation our schools carry through out this state. Our schools aren't perfect, but through local representation we are able to resolve any issues on a local level and improve what is failing as we see fit, and not by some federally appointed bureaucrat. So this argument about teacher evaluations and aggressive testing is only part of the whole train wreck power grab, it's about ZIP CODE, because zip code has always mattered. Who wants a home on Long Island with the costs and high taxes if they can buy an equally as lovely home
for less, in let's say Delaware, for the same exact ONE SIZE FITS ALL education and save about 10,000.00 a year in taxes? This is everyone's problem and that is why COMMON CORE has to GO!
Jessica you plagerized this article. I think trying to pass off a plagerized article as your own work is cheating. Does anyone else agree?
Jessica Horvath

Brentwood, NY

#9 Jun 7, 2013
This was a status update I shared. I have permission to do so.

http://educationviews.org/states-taxpayers-ca...

Are you going to read it or are you gonna stay hung up on the stupid cheating thing?

You are so obsessed with hating 15 year olds and your neighbors that you are incapable of seeing what is happening in the world around you. Sad.
Steve

West Islip, NY

#10 Jun 7, 2013
Jessica Horvath wrote:
This was a status update I shared. I have permission to do so.
http://educationviews.org/states-taxpayers-ca...
Are you going to read it or are you gonna stay hung up on the stupid cheating thing?
You are so obsessed with hating 15 year olds and your neighbors that you are incapable of seeing what is happening in the world around you. Sad.
Did you even bother to read your own link? The so called proof you offer is someone's "view" not a fact. Good think you're not a lawyer.
MIPS

West Islip, NY

#11 Jun 7, 2013
READ!http://usny.nysed.gov/rtt t/application/appendices.pdf
MIPS

West Islip, NY

#12 Jun 7, 2013
MIPS

West Islip, NY

#13 Jun 7, 2013
Jess, can you place here the memo of understanding that our district signed, due back to the state education dept. no later than May 28th 2010, and can you also include the APPR that West Islip agreed to follow as well. You posted it to the face book pages. Thanks. Reading is good, rather than explaining things that we have already researched from the NYSDOE...if people don't do their own homework it means they don't care. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. So just leave the info out there and that is all you can do.
MIPS

West Islip, NY

#14 Jun 7, 2013
JPK72471 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you provide the readers with a link for the 'millions' cost of implementing common core? No, I mean a valid link. Or are you relying on what 'they' tell you to be gospel truth?
Someone asked about your cyber spying on children data system at a boe meeting. Burns told them they didn't understand the concept. Obviously you don't understand the concept either. Which other districts are getting fed up Jessica? Do you have a link for that information or are the other districts calling you on your secret cyber spying on children hotline?
It's called research. When the district signed the MOU in 2010, that was three years ago. Included in the APPR was the stated data mining. It was the obligation of the district to do their own due diligence and find out what is meant by LDS and data mining. We as parents (who were not partnered into this CCSS) are only now awakening to the stupid power grab and it's our children and our tax dollars that are paying to implement this product that billionaires and corporations and trade organizations designed to line their own wallets and increase their wealth. When schools fail, because students fail and teachers are held to accountability with this new ONE SIZE FITS ALL state standards, the state has raised the ceiling on charter schools. Charter schools will be replacing schools that fail according to the John Kings vision. Teaching to the test with age inappropriate concepts and very slow and agonizing standards and tedious and time consuming practice testing taking up a large part of classroom instruction beginning in September and ending in April at testing time is OUTRAGEOUS! As far as I am concerned this year was a wash, a waste. Kids were practicing to the tests for too many hours in a day for weeks and weeks. Teachers were abandoning their own lesson plans and academic freedoms to ensure that the students were ready to pass these exams filling their heads with copious amounts of information. Teachers and building principals being held to standards that might apply to failing schools, but not successful schools where our graduation rates are stellar. This plan is to take a wrecking ball to public school education as we once knew it and enjoyed it. It will remove the ability to address local issues on a local level, accountability will be unattainable and there will be little if any flexibility within the standards. When our schools are being treated to the same consequences (when they are flourishing and excelling, hitting all our high notes from an academic standpoint) as failing schools, something is seriously wrong. Our schools academics and teachers are quality, so no one should be trying to fix what isn't broken and we should all be on our high horses about that. Don't shoot the messenger. READ!
Jessica Horvath

Brentwood, NY

#15 Jun 7, 2013
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you even bother to read your own link? The so called proof you offer is someone's "view" not a fact. Good think you're not a lawyer.
"Steve" put your hatred of all things Jessica aside for 2 seconds. There are cold hard facts in that link.$$ and cents.

Now if you are so busy trying to throw families and kids under the bus and make people miserable that is your perogative, but just so YOU know, in the process you are ignoring things that are going to hurt your own children and family. That goes for all of your little buddies too.

I can put more things up on here but you will only concentrate on figuring out how to disagree with them because you hate the person who is posting it and you can fight against me just because you hate me but that is pretty stupid. I mean, I'm not the only one who thinks this common core thing is a total disaster. Maybe you should ask around and see if anyone you like agrees? Surely someone you know has a brain and can get you to see reasoon through your petty hatefulness.

Maybe someone else can post some information so little Stevie can grasp the concept????

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