Woman arrested in W. Haven hit and run

Woman arrested in W. Haven hit and run

There are 77 comments on the WTNH Hartford, New Haven and Connecticut story from Oct 14, 2008, titled Woman arrested in W. Haven hit and run. In it, WTNH Hartford, New Haven and Connecticut reports that:

Police have finally tracked down a hit and run driver they say is responsible for the death of an elderly woman last month in West Haven.

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“Stand Up for What You Believe!”

Since: Sep 08

La mia bell'Italia

#61 Oct 16, 2008
Angela, it is an "accident" if you do not flee the scene like a coward, once you take off and leave a person to die like an animal in the street, it is something else entirely. If it was someone you loved I bet you would not be feeling sorry for anyone. It DID happen to me, so I know exactly what it feels like. I can forgive, but feel sorry-no way!
Angela wrote:
i think everyone has the right to be upset with her, i dont think i will run away if something like this happens to me, but people have different reactions that was an accident and that could happen to any of us; i feel sorry for both families

“Spring is here..finally!”

Since: Oct 08

Ansonia, CT.

#62 Oct 17, 2008
Jen wrote:
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That would be the smart thing to do, Lock her up right away. But, no they let her out on bond with previous intentions of fleeing. Our system is so screwed up!
Well she actually showed up today, but as everyone figured, entered a NOT guilty plea. I really am going to be very curious what her lawyers do to try and get her off. Bet she is PO'D at the family member who actually turned her in, but hey, at least they did the right thing, and know right from wrong.

Big deal she was rushing to work cause she overslept, haven't we all? I've overslept a few times, I just called my employer and told them I'd be a bit late. So I lost a few bucks, big deal, better then rushing and killing someone, or even myself. What good did her rushing do, it got a woman killed, and she is all over the news, plus she never got to work that day anyway. Probably didn't go cause she didn't want the damage on the car noticed.

The news said, she WAS behind the wheel, so don't even ask me how she expects people to believe it wasn't her fault. Guess she didn't show any emotion in court either, man, she is one COLD FISH!

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#63 Oct 17, 2008
A not guilty plea doesn't mean she isn't going to admit fault. It's a standard practice by the defense while they do the pre-trail work, work on a plea, etc.
Windbag

Durham, CT

#64 Oct 17, 2008
valkyrie35 wrote:
A not guilty plea doesn't mean she isn't going to admit fault. It's a standard practice by the defense while they do the pre-trail work, work on a plea, etc.
Do you mean an Alford Doctrine plea? Nolo Contendere? Can I use you as a legal representative? I bet you have a scathing closing argument hidden up your sleeve. Tell us how the whole Not Guilty plea at a pre trial arraignment works in your vast legal experience. By the way, my particle accelerator is acting up, any advice?

“Stand Up for What You Believe!”

Since: Sep 08

La mia bell'Italia

#65 Oct 18, 2008
It kills me to stick up for Val here, but he's right. Most everyone pleads not guilty while their lawyers talk to the prosecutor to plea bargain. If they admit guilt from the beginning then they do not have as much to bring to the table to bargain with.
That murderer knows she's guilty, as does her lawyer, they just do that to try to get the charges reduced and some of them dropped, which we all know they will. It is just the way of the legal system, NOT that I agree with it.
Windbag wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you mean an Alford Doctrine plea? Nolo Contendere? Can I use you as a legal representative? I bet you have a scathing closing argument hidden up your sleeve. Tell us how the whole Not Guilty plea at a pre trial arraignment works in your vast legal experience. By the way, my particle accelerator is acting up, any advice?

“Stand Up for What You Believe!”

Since: Sep 08

La mia bell'Italia

#66 Oct 18, 2008
That's right. Her being late defense is ridiculous. Imagine being late for work, which we all have and hitting a person on the way and just saying to yourself "Ah, well I'll just leave them to die in the street, might save me a few more minutes." Holy shit-what a cold hearted bitch that ASTO is.
JEH aka JJ wrote:
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Well she actually showed up today, but as everyone figured, entered a NOT guilty plea. I really am going to be very curious what her lawyers do to try and get her off. Bet she is PO'D at the family member who actually turned her in, but hey, at least they did the right thing, and know right from wrong.
Big deal she was rushing to work cause she overslept, haven't we all? I've overslept a few times, I just called my employer and told them I'd be a bit late. So I lost a few bucks, big deal, better then rushing and killing someone, or even myself. What good did her rushing do, it got a woman killed, and she is all over the news, plus she never got to work that day anyway. Probably didn't go cause she didn't want the damage on the car noticed.
The news said, she WAS behind the wheel, so don't even ask me how she expects people to believe it wasn't her fault. Guess she didn't show any emotion in court either, man, she is one COLD FISH!

“Stand Up for What You Believe!”

Since: Sep 08

La mia bell'Italia

#67 Oct 18, 2008
The way she said it I thought she had some big time job. She was late for friggin' Dunkin Donuts. Come on. The one near our house never opens on time in the morning, I am certain they would have understood had she called and said she was running a little late.

And she bought a plane ticket to Peru, she was never going to turn herself in. Thank God for her cousin who actually had a heart and turned ASTO in. Whoever he or she is, God Bless you for giving that woman's family some closure, so they do not have to live with never knowing like my boyfriend's family and I still do.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#68 Oct 18, 2008
Windbag wrote:
Do you mean an Alford Doctrine plea? Nolo Contendere? Can I use you as a legal representative? I bet you have a scathing closing argument hidden up your sleeve. Tell us how the whole Not Guilty plea at a pre trial arraignment works in your vast legal experience. By the way, my particle accelerator is acting up, any advice?
Seriously? You're going to disagree just to disagree with me? That makes you look ignorant. Go ask any attorney why defendants plead not guilty. They need time to gather evidence, prepare a possible defense, work on a plea bargain, yeah, it is standard operating procedure and if you think otherwise, you are misinformed.

If you have a particle accelerator that is acting up, I need to know more by what you mean "acting up" before I give you advice on it. Is it producing strangelets? If it is, don't worry about it, you and everything else will be dead soon assuming they haven't reached their ground state. If they have, don't worry, they're harmless. Any other questions?
JEH aka JJ

United States

#69 Oct 18, 2008
East Haven 5 wrote:
The way she said it I thought she had some big time job. She was late for friggin' Dunkin Donuts. Come on. The one near our house never opens on time in the morning, I am certain they would have understood had she called and said she was running a little late.
And she bought a plane ticket to Peru, she was never going to turn herself in. Thank God for her cousin who actually had a heart and turned ASTO in. Whoever he or she is, God Bless you for giving that woman's family some closure, so they do not have to live with never knowing like my boyfriend's family and I still do.
I don't care if she was the president of a huge corporation, hitting someone and leaving them to die is inexcuseable...PERIOD! I realize the non guilty plea is a time thing for the lawyers to get their acts together, just dying to see what they pull out of their hats for a defense. I'm sure there will be plea bargains, what else is new, it just aggravates me that she will get a possible slap on the wrist.

If she had shown some emotion, like she was terribly sorry, I just might have a little compassion for her, but she acts like this is inconviencing her. Oh well, I'm out of words for her, and name calling isn't going to do anything, so let's just hope somewhere in that COLD heart of hers, she actually feels bad about this. Let's just be thankful her cousin, roommate and the teacher finally got her caught, at least the woman's family has some closure.

Since: Oct 08

Bethel, CT

#70 Oct 18, 2008
If anyone is ever arrested for something you should ALWAYS plead not guilty at the first presentation in front of a Judge. Several reasons:

1)Pleading guilty immediately leaves your entire fate in the hands of a judge, and not a jury if you want one
2)The "facts" presented to the DA may not be 100% correct so you need time to view them, make disputes etc because otherwise you wont get a chance later
3)it gives you time to get an attorney, work out your affairs if jail time may be involved
4)gives you time to learn your rights and learn the law

You should never please "guilty", no matter the crime, at the initial arrest. This is never smart.

“Stand Up for What You Believe!”

Since: Sep 08

La mia bell'Italia

#71 Oct 19, 2008
I agree, I did not mean to make it sound as if she had a better job it would be an excuse. Really my animosity for her is just showing that she thought it was more important to get to DD than to drive safely.
I wonder if it was just being late or if being on a phone or some other distraction had something to do with it.
I understand if someone takes their eyes off the road for one split second that an accident can happen, however staying and showing remorse and helping the person you hit makes all of the difference in the world versus gettting your passport, hiding your car and showing not one ounce of remorse.
If (God Forbid) it were ever me and I injured someone I first of all would never leave the scene and secondly I would be showing remorse, it just happened and this ASTO looks as if she is made of stone, not one sign of sorrow on her face.

I do know that things can happen, when I was driving to work one day a teenager on a bike darted directly out in front of my car, I mean directly, he was coming out of in between two houses and did not even look. Luckily I was going the speed limit, which was 35 and I was paying attention to the road. I slammed on my brakes so hard that I had to call my husband because when I went to slow down to stop for the next stop sign I had no brakes. I had to use my emergency brake, I was only one block from work. He explained that I must have slammed them on so hard it broke the brake lines.(This is his classic car I was driving that day) so they were not brand new to begin with, but they were fine until that day!
My point is that I still remember that so vividly, it still upsets me that this kid who had to be about 14 years old didn't even look. Had it been someone going faster which they always do on that road, or looking away for a moment, he probably would have been injured or killed. So HOW can it not faze someone who actually HIT a person?
JEH aka JJ wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't care if she was the president of a huge corporation, hitting someone and leaving them to die is inexcuseable...PERIOD! I realize the non guilty plea is a time thing for the lawyers to get their acts together, just dying to see what they pull out of their hats for a defense. I'm sure there will be plea bargains, what else is new, it just aggravates me that she will get a possible slap on the wrist.
If she had shown some emotion, like she was terribly sorry, I just might have a little compassion for her, but she acts like this is inconviencing her. Oh well, I'm out of words for her, and name calling isn't going to do anything, so let's just hope somewhere in that COLD heart of hers, she actually feels bad about this. Let's just be thankful her cousin, roommate and the teacher finally got her caught, at least the woman's family has some closure.

“Spring is here..finally!”

Since: Oct 08

Ansonia, CT.

#72 Oct 19, 2008
Oh I hear you loud and clear Jen, and agree 100%. As we both said, no matter what her excuse, it is lame.

My husband and I were coming home one evening about 5, it was winter, so it was dark already. A cat darted out in front of us and we knew we hit it. We stopped, cat seemed ok, but we knocked on about 4 doors to see if we could find the owner. After noone seemed to know the cat, we scooted on down to our vet a few blocks away. He was familiar with the cat so called the owner. Even though the cat was just a little banged up , mostly shook up, we offered to pay the vet bill. The owners said he usually stayed in, but somehow managed to sneak out, but thanked us for doing what we did.

Luckily all turned out well, and the cat was able to go home and recoop. By the time it was all over, and we got home, I was exhausted, but happy he was ok.

I'll bet you did mess up the brakes, as those classic cars can do that, as we have one as well. One thing I do love about them, they are built alot bettr then these cars today. Some of the cars today fold up like a fan if you hit anything, as they are made out of mostly fiberglass.

Oh well, let's just hope this broad doesn't just get a slap on the wrist, and maybe she will learn that a human life is EXTREMELY important, and taking responsibility is even more important!!!

“Spring is here..finally!”

Since: Oct 08

Ansonia, CT.

#73 Oct 19, 2008
Sorry, meant to say East Haven 5, guess I have Jen on the brain this afternoon. LOL

Have a nice day, pretty cool out there.:-)

“Stand Up for What You Believe!”

Since: Sep 08

La mia bell'Italia

#74 Oct 19, 2008
Thank you. I know the feeling. I hit a racoon and I felt awful, that thud is such a horrible feeling. Imagine it being a PERSON? You did more for that cat than this ASTO did for a human being.
You've proven there are a lot of good people still out there!
JEH aka JJ wrote:
Sorry, meant to say East Haven 5, guess I have Jen on the brain this afternoon. LOL
Have a nice day, pretty cool out there.:-)
bennin

Morristown, NJ

#75 Apr 24, 2009
may be nobody knows but i've seem her(karen) every weekend at clubs dancing and drinking....
Former Inmate from YCI

New Milford, CT

#76 Apr 8, 2011
She served 15 months and is now on probation - the only reason I know is that I always wondered what the QUIET girl in cell with me did, but she would never talk about it - so when I got out - I looked it up... because when someone is SO FREAKIN' SECRETIVE something has to be up... and I am amazed that she only had to do 15 months... I was in jail for trying to buy drugs -(not even having any in my system, or on me (and no paraphenalia either)- I admit I am an addict in hopes of full recovery - but still I got 1 yr, I didn't hurt anyone, not even myself...
but hopefully what comes around goes around.
Former Inmate from YCI

New Milford, CT

#77 Apr 8, 2011
once again - sorry wanted to say - don't know when her sentence started but she was released in December 2010.

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