BayMeadows Lake Owners Meeting

BayMeadows Lake Owners Meeting

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Fish

Oglethorpe, GA

#1 Jan 19, 2013
A meeting will be held on Feb 5,2013 at 6:30PM located at BayMeadows Lodge at 283 BankLodge Dr, Douglas Ga
Fish

Oglethorpe, GA

#2 Jan 19, 2013
Lake management professionals have reviewed the lake and made recommendations to the lake owner association. I have NO details of any recommendation, as they will be released at the meeting. Some information is out there.(more to follow)
Fish

Oglethorpe, GA

#3 Jan 20, 2013
1. Grass carp, cost around 25000.00 and last for about 8yrs, thats about 3100.00 per year.
2. Drain lake 50 percent or there about, and burn lake weeds up to shore line. This will save money but have to wait for the lake to refill. Will also need to add some Grass carp.
3. Aquatic weed control with herbicides and pellets and granules, This cost more.
4. Or maybe a little of each.

This is just some of my ideas.
out and about

Youngstown, FL

#4 Jan 20, 2013
Leave it to runner,,,,he has the answers!
Keep Calm and Carry On

Hahira, GA

#5 Jan 20, 2013
Don't grass carp get huge and add to nutrients to the water that can speed weed and algae growth?
Fish

Oglethorpe, GA

#6 Jan 20, 2013
there is truth in what you say. I think its like using gasoline in a car it hurts the environment. It the best we can do at this time. What would you suggest for hydrilla weed control.
Keep Calm and Carry On

Hahira, GA

#7 Jan 20, 2013
http://www.weedscience.ncsu.edu/aquaticweeds/...

A paper from UNC on control...very informative.

Just Googleing it turns up loads of results as it is a very common problem.

I'm not sure on the whole price of 25k for the fish. UNC quotes about $7 per fish, so for 25k you could get something like 3500+ fish. That sounds like loads of fish for such a small body of water, especially since they get huge. The black out fabric they suggest sounds environmentally better than chemicals along with the fish. Not that many people go there to eat the fish anyway, but the sporting may actually help spread the weeds by cutting the shifting the plant into other, non-affected areas.
Keep Calm and Carry On

Hahira, GA

#8 Jan 20, 2013
The progress of recent research in Florida
indicates that one or more species of insects (including two species of flies, a tuber weevil, and a stemboring weevil) may prove effective on hydrilla.

A small note in the paper.
Lionel

Waycross, GA

#9 Jan 20, 2013
It must be sad to worry about weeds and algae when our country is such a mess.
Fish

Oglethorpe, GA

#10 Jan 20, 2013
Lionel wrote:
It must be sad to worry about weeds and algae when our country is such a mess.
You were just posting on HELLO and trying to sing Lionel Richie is that how you take care of our country. Its weeds, then algae and then country.
kay

Snellville, GA

#11 Jan 20, 2013
I will worry about weeds, because that's something I can control. Those idiots is Washington? Not so much.
Lionel wrote:
It must be sad to worry about weeds and algae when our country is such a mess.
Keep Calm and Carry On

Hahira, GA

#12 Jan 20, 2013
Yes, you can kill weeds without repercussion, DC not so much!
Anteater

Moultrie, GA

#13 Jan 20, 2013
Thanks fish. As a bay meadows resident I really apreciiate all the info. What are we Going to do about the beaver damn blocking bear creek?
Keep Calm and Carry On

Hahira, GA

#14 Jan 20, 2013
You will need to contact the DNR about either relocating them or living with the dam. Personally, I would leave the dam because they are more important to the health of the environment, which is why you have weed problems, man's fault there. Let nature rule!
wtfs

Moultrie, GA

#15 Jan 20, 2013
Bring in Si and Phil to blow it up!
Fish

Oglethorpe, GA

#16 Jan 20, 2013
Anteater wrote:
Thanks fish. As a bay meadows resident I really apreciiate all the info. What are we Going to do about the beaver damn blocking bear creek?
This is a really good question. I'am new to BayMeadows area. Been here 4yrs. Lived in a larger city most of my life. I know nothing about beavers. So, Please come to the meeting and ask that question. Thanks.
well

Warner Robins, GA

#17 Jan 20, 2013
A spotlight and a 22 rifle will take care of the beaver situation.
Anteater

Moultrie, GA

#18 Jan 20, 2013
The problem is that it is about two

Miles away on the Evans property.
Keep Calm and Carry On

Tifton, GA

#19 Jan 21, 2013
Then it is up to the Evan's to deal with DNR about the beavers. If they choose to let the beavers live the way they want to live, then there isn't anything BM owners can do about it. If they have let the beavers keep their dam as long as they have, then they apparently don't care if your pond has all the water you want it to have. If anything the dam may prevent a surge of water in heavy rain and be protecting your property more than you realize.

From the DNR http://georgiawildlife.com/node/516

also http://georgiawildlife.com/sites/default/file... which sounds like a more reasonable solution to the problem and allowing the beavers to continue to live. The Evans may choose the help with the cost of building it or do it all themselves or as BM to cover the costs. Either way a far better solution than killing them and blowing up their dam.
Keep Calm and Carry On

Fitzgerald, GA

#20 Jan 21, 2013
Drainage Devices

Probably the most effective device to control water levels in a beaver pond situation is the Clemson beaver pond leveler (Adobe Acrobat Reader required). Developed at Clemson University, it has proven effective in allowing continual water flow and facilitating the manipulation of water levels in beaver ponds for moist-soil management that is beneficial for migratory waterfowl and shorebirds.

The Clemson beaver pond leveler consists of a 10-inch diameter perforated PVC pipe encased in heavy-gauged galvanized hog wire. The encased portion is placed upstream of the dam or blocked culvert in the deepest part of the stream. It is connected to non-perforated sections of PVC pipe that are run through the dam or culvert to a water control structure downstream. To manipulate the water level of the pond, attach an elbow to the downstream end with a pipe extending up to the desired water level. The Clemson beaver pond leveler works best in relatively flat locations. It is effective because beavers cannot detect the sound of falling or flowing water as the pond or culvert drains. Therefore, they do not try to plug the pipe.

A "3-log drain" may be one of the most cost-efficient methods to permit water flow through a beaver dam. To construct this drain, fasten together three logs approximately 6-9 inches in diameter and 12-16 feet long. Logs should be wired together with 2 logs side-by-side and 1 on top forming a triangle. A piece of light gauge sheet metal (or old roofing tin) should be wrapped around the logs to act as a pipe to permit water to flow between the logs. Place the three logs in the dam with the upstream end of the logs at least one foot lower than the downstream end. It is recommended to punch several holes in the top piece to improve water flow. Beavers may build over the ends of the 3-log drain resulting in frequent maintenance, so longer logs are suggested.

Variations on the 3-log drain include substituting PVC sewer pipe for the three logs. Use perforated PVC (upstream end) connected to solid PVC (downstream end). No sheet metal should be needed with this modification. Cap the upstream ends or cover them with wire to keep debris from clogging the pipes.

In many instances especially in roadways, culverts are placed large enough to handle the hydrologic needs of that area. However, recent evidence suggests installations of oversized culverts in areas where beavers are present will minimize the tendency of beavers to block culverts. Culverts should be enlarged to at least a size that maintains the natural stream width. Oversized culverts may not be a practical solution for established roadways but should definitely be considered when constructing new roads where beaver exist.

An important point to consider before installing any type of drainage device is how beavers will react to the device. Oftentimes if beavers cannot plug a drainage device or a leaking dam, they will simply build a dam in another location.

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