Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

[cjk]

TXgurl wrote:

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Show me where you got that fact from. I did research and found this:
http://www.medicinenet.com/child_abuse/page2....
Studies have shown a consistent pattern regarding the abuse and neglect inflicted on children of different genders. Approximately 75% of sexual abuse is inflicted upon girls.
http://nctsn.org/nctsn_assets/pdfs/caring/Chi...
Retrospective research indicates that as many as 1 out of 4 girls
and 1 out of 6 boys will experience some form of sexual abuse before the age of 18.
http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/statsinfo/ni...
Girls were sexually abused three times more often than boys.

You can't be that stupid can you?
I guess you can when your own numbers conflict with themselves!
If 3/4 or 75% of victims were girls how is it that your next figures then say that only 60% are girls?(2/12 boys and 3/12 girls which means 3/5 victims or 60% are girls)
Regardless, even if your figures are correct, you're still admitting that homos are responsible for between 25 and 40 percent of all pedophilia! That's quite a feat for about 2 or 3 percent of the populace.

[TXgurl]

cjk wrote:

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Being gay is a complete CHOICE and that's a FACT.
Absolutely ZERO animals engage in fecal sex, FACT.
Saying that 40% of women like fecal sex is a laughable lie.
Homosexuality is a disgusting perversion and everyone knows it.
Saying a greater percentage of normal people like deviant sex than sexual perverts is also a laughable lie.

Show us your proof that being gay is a choice... tell me, why would someone choose to be part of a group that is hated??? Does that make sense to you? People hide being gay because they are afraid of the hate... doesn't that tell you that it isn't a choice? Oh, and I am a lesbian, I don't participate in anal sex at all... your anal sex argument only works for the gays that do participate in it... which isn't 100%

[Not Yet Equal]

dances with weebles wrote:

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first of all, being gay is no more of a choice than is being left handed, having red hair, or blue/green eyes. it is a variation of what's normal.
10% of all males and 8% of all females of over 1500 species of animals, including humans, are same sex oriented.
not only that, but homosexuals don't do anything sexually that straights don't do more. you do know that a higher percentage of straights enjoy anal sex than do gays, right?(over 40% of all sexually active women between the ages of 13 and 45 enjoy, or even prefer anal sex to vaginal... even if you don't like it)
and statistically there is very little difference in the lifespan of gays vs straights. anything said to the contrary is nothing more than rumour.

Thank you. I forgot to address the early death fallacy.

There was a study of men with HIV before modern medications, which showed gay men with HIV had a much shorter life expectancy than those without HIV. That study has been used by the homophobes to claim all gay people have a shorter lifespan, which is false. This is yet another gross distortion of an old study now used to demonize and justify harming gay people.

Yet even if that were true, and it isn't, it still provides no legitimate excuse for denial of equal legal rights.

[KiMare]

Not Yet Equal wrote:

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Rather, anthropological research supports the conclusion that a vast array of family types, including families built upon same-sex partnerships, can contribute to stable and humane societies." ( American Anthropological Association)

Please. PLEASE! Show that specific anthropological research.

Smile.

[KiMare]

Marengo Jon wrote:

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--A union isn't the same as marriage. That's why marriage equality is inevitable.
--There's no need to "excuse" homosexuality in Biblical perspectives which don't recognize homosexuality as a sin. At any rate, we're still not a Theocracy so this is moot point.
--Yes, I would maintain that same-sex parents can do just as well as heterosexual parents. You would have us believe that a penis and a vagina are prerequisites to parenting.
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Wrong, I don't give a shit about "image". I want the same federal benefits for my marriage that Britney Spears was entitled to for her 15 minutes. When I have to hire a lawyer to get "equal rights", we don't have equality.
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Have I? Really? Conjecture.

We already know the gay twists you put in the same places pedophiles are counterfeit about. All you did was confirm the observation.

[Marengo Jon]

KiMare wrote:

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We already know the gay twists you put in the same places pedophiles are counterfeit about. All you did was confirm the observation.

That's because you can only see through your shit-stained glasses. Normal people don't make the observations that you make. Then again, you're anything but normal according to your own admissions.

[KiMare]

Not Yet Equal wrote:

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You seem to have believed the lies you were taught as a child. Again, your prejudice is irrational and scientifically unsupportable. Gay people have always existed, and every mainstream medical and mental health organization in the country understand being gay is a normal expression of being human for a minority of the population.
“Research over several decades has demonstrated that sexual orientation ranges along a continuum, from exclusive attraction to the other sex to exclusive attraction to the same sex. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding.”(APA)

Untrue.

Evolutionary scientists recognize that homosexuality is a evolutionary defect. They just don't know the cause. You are right that sexuality runs a spectrum from masculinity to femininity, but GLBT represent 4% at the crossover point.

Because anal sex is a violation of design, medical professionals advise numerous countermeasures to make it marginally safe.

The list goes on.

[dances with weebles]

cjk wrote:

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Being gay is a complete CHOICE and that's a FACT.
Absolutely ZERO animals engage in fecal sex, FACT.
Saying that 40% of women like fecal sex is a laughable lie.
Homosexuality is a disgusting perversion and everyone knows it.
Saying a greater percentage of normal people like deviant sex than sexual perverts is also a laughable lie.

and you got all this sterling information, um... where, exactly?

[KiMare]

Marengo Jon wrote:

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That's because you can only see through your shit-stained glasses. Normal people don't make the observations that you make. Then again, you're anything but normal according to your own admissions.

You understood my observations so well, you went right into your gay twirling like a tornado! Look at all the old lines you pulled.

[cjk]

TXgurl wrote:

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Show us your proof that being gay is a choice... tell me, why would someone choose to be part of a group that is hated??? Does that make sense to you? People hide being gay because they are afraid of the hate... doesn't that tell you that it isn't a choice? Oh, and I am a lesbian, I don't participate in anal sex at all... your anal sex argument only works for the gays that do participate in it... which isn't 100%

Gay is a choice because no animals practice it, only perverted, deviant, people.

Mommy, Mommy, he's hating on me again!

[cjk]

dances with weebles wrote:

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and you got all this sterling information, um... where, exactly?

By the figures you fecal freaks provided!

[dances with weebles]

cjk wrote:

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By the figures you fecal freaks provided!

boy, you couldn't have missed that by much further.

btw... wtf is a 'fecal freak?'

[livingfree85]

cjk wrote:

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Gay is a choice because no animals practice it, only perverted, deviant, people.
Mommy, Mommy, he's hating on me again!

Wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behav...

And, really, whether it's a choice or not is completely irrelevant. And if it's against someone's religion, that is also irrelevant. And if you disagree with it, that's irrelevant. I have met many heterosexual couples whose relationship is toxic and negatively affects the people around them (including the kids that they should have never had), but it's their right. Gay people don't disgust me, bigots and hateful people disgust me.

[ProCCW]

dances with weebles wrote:

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you're playing with stereotypes.., not facts. not only that, but it still wouldn't work. it has nothing to do with 'butch' or 'fem'. it has to do with physical makeup.

You mean how they Look! Isn't that superficial?

[Truth Police]

Uh, CJK, there are numerous animals that practice homosexuality. Guess you don't get Animal Planet out on your farm.
And since you dropped out prior to 4th grade science, humans are animals.

cjk wrote:

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Gay is a choice because no animals practice it, only perverted, deviant, people.
Mommy, Mommy, he's hating on me again!

[Truth Police]

You throw out a lot of "facts" with no proof. If that is how the game is played, "I am God...FACT" Now give me 10% of your money every Sunday.
The only thing "everyone knows" is that your IQ is about 4 points different than a rock.

cjk wrote:

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Being gay is a complete CHOICE and that's a FACT.
Absolutely ZERO animals engage in fecal sex, FACT.
Saying that 40% of women like fecal sex is a laughable lie.
Homosexuality is a disgusting perversion and everyone knows it.
Saying a greater percentage of normal people like deviant sex than sexual perverts is also a laughable lie.

[nfgc]

KiMare wrote:

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The simplistic form of morality is 'do no harm'. Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning. A God of love does not excuse horrendous abuse like that.

You have still yet to answer any question with an intelligent response. You keep avoiding the very subject you are presenting when someone replies to you. Bashing the people on here will get you no where. It's ok to disagree, you have that right. But at least be intelligent about why you fele that way and the only way to be more wise in your decision making is to be tolerant of others and with an open mind try to understand their point of view as well. You do not follow your own adivice of 'simplistic form of morality'. It's quite ironic.

Many straight couples participate in anal sex, allowing gay marriage will not stop this act. Maybe you should petition the porn indistry if this is your true concern. In fact, if you were intelligent in your research of this subject you would know that there are many gay couples that do not partiicpate in anal sex..this is a stereotype. Just because someone is gay does not mean this is how they have to be itimate. Besides, the intimacy of another couple is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. What they do in their own intimacy practice should never be your business. I'd be damned if my private intimate life was any of your business.

It's obvious that you have a great personal bias against gays and this is the reason you oppose it. You have not made an intelligent decision nor have the research to back it up. If you did, it would be easier to accept. As I said, it's okay to disagree, but not ok to discriminate.

Keep repeating your 'gay twirl' remarks all you want. Nothing you have said is substantial or merits any credit.

[nfgc]

TXgurl wrote:

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Show me where you got that fact from. I did research and found this:
http://www.medicinenet.com/child_abuse/page2....
Studies have shown a consistent pattern regarding the abuse and neglect inflicted on children of different genders. Approximately 75% of sexual abuse is inflicted upon girls.
http://nctsn.org/nctsn_assets/pdfs/caring/Chi...
Retrospective research indicates that as many as 1 out of 4 girls
and 1 out of 6 boys will experience some form of sexual abuse before the age of 18.
http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/statsinfo/ni...
Girls were sexually abused three times more often than boys.

Brilliant! This is exactly what these haters need. Preaching about hate and perversion, all the while lacking any intelligence to the matter. If you disagree with gay mariiage this is your righ. However, in order o make a wise decision you ave to be tolerant of the many other views around you or else you have based your decision on mothing that can be merited. It's amazing to me how many ignorant people there are today.

Thank you for providing this information as the facts of this research cannot be tuened. Face the acts haters, you lose!

[Marengo Jon]

TXgurl wrote:

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Show me where you got that fact from. I did research and found this:
http://www.medicinenet.com/child_abuse/page2....
Studies have shown a consistent pattern regarding the abuse and neglect inflicted on children of different genders. Approximately 75% of sexual abuse is inflicted upon girls.
http://nctsn.org/nctsn_assets/pdfs/caring/Chi...
Retrospective research indicates that as many as 1 out of 4 girls
and 1 out of 6 boys will experience some form of sexual abuse before the age of 18.
http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/statsinfo/ni...
Girls were sexually abused three times more often than boys.

CJK and Kimare (D.B.A. the great genetic mutation) won't be swayed by fact. They'll make posits all day long, without the need to back them up. Ironically, if others do the same, they demand data.

[Get over yourself]

Marengo Jon wrote:

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CJK and Kimare (D.B.A. the great genetic mutation) won't be swayed by fact. They'll make posits all day long, without the need to back them up. Ironically, if others do the same, they demand data.

You are correct! I think in order for them to even believe themselves they must keep repeating what it is they think they believe. Kudos to those who have done the research and posted published FACTS!!!