In wake of fire, West Des Moines apartment complex to ban smoking

Feb 9, 2011 Full story: Http

Sun Prairie Apartment Complex in West Des Moines will ban smoking in its buildings beginning in 2012, the complex's owners announced today.

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#1 Feb 9, 2011
A million bucks down the drain because some smoker goofed. Good news is, no one was killed or injured.
Smoke free rentals are the wave of the future, and are becoming a nationwide fact.

Since: Jan 10

Des Moines

#2 Feb 9, 2011
How can such a rule be enforced? Will you be subject to random searches? Don't get me wrong In principle it sounds like a good idea. In an apartment type setting, everyone can be put at risk by the actions of one careless person. I just fear that such a thing can not be enforced. I own our home, so I wouldn't be affected, but even renters have rights. I believe that the landlord or manager cannot come in without prior warning. Where will it go next, should a drunk person destroy some property then they can ban alcohol from the premises as well? When a person pays rent, in effect, that is no different that a private home. Cops still need a search warrant, so if anyone knows how they could possibly control the actions of someone in there apartment, I would be enlightened by your response.
Dee

Des Moines, IA

#3 Feb 10, 2011
Has there ever been a fire stared from weed but crigets burn down the forests all the time
Tobacco kills

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#4 Feb 10, 2011
HIGHWAY 420 wrote:
How can such a rule be enforced? Will you be subject to random searches? Don't get me wrong In principle it sounds like a good idea. In an apartment type setting, everyone can be put at risk by the actions of one careless person. I just fear that such a thing can not be enforced. I own our home, so I wouldn't be affected, but even renters have rights. I believe that the landlord or manager cannot come in without prior warning. Where will it go next, should a drunk person destroy some property then they can ban alcohol from the premises as well? When a person pays rent, in effect, that is no different that a private home. Cops still need a search warrant, so if anyone knows how they could possibly control the actions of someone in there apartment, I would be enlightened by your response.
The renter is subject to eviction and financial penalties if they are caught smoking in their apartment. Smoke will travel through walls via elctric boxes, where pipes go through and so on. I would definitely complain if I smelled smoke coming into my apartment. The cigarette smoke gets trapped in the carpeting and hangs on the walls. Anyone who does not smoke can stand at the front door of someone who does smoke inside and is able to tell that someone smokes inside. All the management has to do is knock on the front door and when someone answers it, they will know. That would be all it would take to begin the legal proceedings for eviction and financial penalties. Once they are evicted future landlords checking their background will see the eviction proceedings so itt would make it harder for them to rent another place. The law has found that landlords are able to restrict smoking on their premises. As far as drunks, most drunks will violate the lease in other ways such as noise or behavior that results in their eviction.

Since: Jan 10

Des Moines

#5 Feb 10, 2011
Tobacco kills wrote:
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The renter is subject to eviction and financial penalties if they are caught smoking in their apartment. Smoke will travel through walls via elctric boxes, where pipes go through and so on. I would definitely complain if I smelled smoke coming into my apartment. The cigarette smoke gets trapped in the carpeting and hangs on the walls. Anyone who does not smoke can stand at the front door of someone who does smoke inside and is able to tell that someone smokes inside. All the management has to do is knock on the front door and when someone answers it, they will know. That would be all it would take to begin the legal proceedings for eviction and financial penalties. Once they are evicted future landlords checking their background will see the eviction proceedings so itt would make it harder for them to rent another place. The law has found that landlords are able to restrict smoking on their premises. As far as drunks, most drunks will violate the lease in other ways such as noise or behavior that results in their eviction.
Thanks, having never lived in an apartment, I wasn't aware that non smokers could detect such activities, so easily. But, for those who smoke weed, and or crank, they are able to get away with it so, smoking tobacco would be just as easy. Ever hear of air purifiers? Ionic breeze and the like. A few family members smoke in their home, and when we visit you would never know. I just find the actually enforcement of such a rule to be a dubious claim. More than likely the apartment management has determined that such a rule would save them a tom of money on their insurance. As long as they get the savings by enforcing a few times a year, they will care less if people do actually break the rules. Anyway like I said before it doesn't affect us in any way.

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