When is the use of deadly force justi...

When is the use of deadly force justified?

There are 44 comments on the WIS-TV Columbia story from Feb 17, 2011, titled When is the use of deadly force justified?. In it, WIS-TV Columbia reports that:

A West Columbia man who shot someone in his yard will not face charges. Police say Richard Williams shot and killed 44-year-old Mark Howard around 3:00am Monday outside his home on Morningside Drive.

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Since: Feb 11

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#1 Feb 17, 2011
I've never owned a gun, have never been interested in owning one...and then I moved to Columbia

Was the 44-yr-old who was shot trespassing?
Yes? End of story.

That's about how long the proceedings should take.
Justice

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#2 Feb 17, 2011
jaru10 wrote:
I've never owned a gun, have never been interested in owning one...and then I moved to Columbia
Was the 44-yr-old who was shot trespassing?
Yes? End of story.
That's about how long the proceedings should take.
So are you saying that the killer had no other choice and his actions was his last resort? The killer's life was never in danger.... according to WLTX story (not understandable)... the deceased was riding away on his bicycle when he was shot.

Apparently you Southerners are trigger happy and think you still live in the 1800's out west. The solicitors did not think the killer deserved to be prosecuted, but they are not the ultimate prosecutors. Whether the killer realizes it or not, but he is being prosecuted at this point. One of the 10 commandments states... Thy shall not kill.... of course we all know that this guy killed the deceased... unlease you want to let him off the hook like the Solicitors and say he Murdered him.

rwwllms

“If you can't be a good example”

Since: Mar 07

be a warning

#3 Feb 17, 2011
Another of the Ten Commandments is Thou Shalt Not Steal

You steal you get shot. Justice is served.

Don't want to get shot then don't steal. Simple as that.

:-)FUN FACT! A dead thief can't steal no more.

Please get caught stealing something Justice. Pretty please......

Since: Feb 11

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#4 Feb 17, 2011
Oh, Justice! I love the preachings of the bleeding hearts...until it's YOUR porch this guy is jumping off.

Perhaps he should have stopped the perpetrator,offered him a bite and asked him to open up about his childhood!

Listen, the rules are pretty simple: If it's not yours, don't touch it!
Justice

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#5 Feb 18, 2011
jaru10 wrote:
Oh, Justice! I love the preachings of the bleeding hearts...until it's YOUR porch this guy is jumping off.
Perhaps he should have stopped the perpetrator,offered him a bite and asked him to open up about his childhood!
Listen, the rules are pretty simple: If it's not yours, don't touch it!
Been there done that JARU. I guess it all depends on the individual. I think many like to be able to brag about killing someone... not my style. BTW, the fact that you said "the rulesare pretty simple".... and not the LAW, speaks volumes. Those that follow the rules and ignore the LAW... will eventually become a statistic of the Judicial System.

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#6 Feb 18, 2011
Isn't it something? The "rules", those societal codes of conduct, those behaviors that should be guided by a moral compass that speaks in your ear and tells you right from wrong, became insufficient. They needed to become written and enforceable--hence they became "laws."

Justice, although we may disagree on the subject, I'm sure we would agree that people behave badly and where they used to do it quietly and with a degree of shame, now they are proud and blatant about acting like animals.

The "justice system" is hardly a threat to those criminals anymore, who are protected as well as, if not better than, their victims.

All I'm saying is, in the middle of being attacked, robbed, or otherwise infringed upon without provocation, I see no reason that I should take pause and consider the rights or well-being of the other person.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#7 Feb 18, 2011
Justice wrote:
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Those that follow the rules and ignore the LAW... will eventually become a statistic of the Judicial System.
The judicial system? Are you talking about the system of electing or appointing judges?
Justice

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#8 Feb 18, 2011
jaru10 wrote:
Isn't it something? The "rules", those societal codes of conduct, those behaviors that should be guided by a moral compass that speaks in your ear and tells you right from wrong, became insufficient. They needed to become written and enforceable--hence they became "laws."
Justice, although we may disagree on the subject, I'm sure we would agree that people behave badly and where they used to do it quietly and with a degree of shame, now they are proud and blatant about acting like animals.
The "justice system" is hardly a threat to those criminals anymore, who are protected as well as, if not better than, their victims.
All I'm saying is, in the middle of being attacked, robbed, or otherwise infringed upon without provocation, I see no reason that I should take pause and consider the rights or well-being of the other person.
I agree... and it's good that people have a right to their opinions...yes we can agree to disagree. All I am saying is this... if a person(s) break into my home and steal the entire contents.... as long as no harm is done to me... a life is not worthy of taking.

Life is very precious and if anyone value the life of a person over materialistic things have to answer to a higher Justice than here on earth. Unfortunately in my past profession I had to do what I did to stay alive (legally & as a professional).... and that done at a last resort. Deadly Force: is that force used to cause death or bodily harm and should only be used at the last resort.

That definition is very broad, it is my opinion that one should take any and all necessary step to avoid taking the life of another, therefore acting on the latter in the above definition. I personally saw no reason for the person to kill or get kill over a bicycle... even breaking into his vehicle. But hey.... that's me. We all have differences of opinions and veiws... that what makes the world so great.
Justice

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#9 Feb 18, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>The judicial system? Are you talking about the system of electing or appointing judges?
One can only assume your question is sarcastic.... if not... then you would'nt understand my response to your question.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#10 Feb 18, 2011
Justice wrote:
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One can only assume your question is sarcastic.... if not... then you would'nt understand my response to your question.
I wouldn't understand "would'nt", either.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#11 Feb 18, 2011
Justice wrote:
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Those that follow the rules and ignore the LAW... will eventually become a statistic of the Judicial System.
The judicial system? Are you talking about the system of electing or appointing judges?
Justice

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#12 Feb 18, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>I wouldn't understand "would'nt", either.
OK..... I see we have a "backyard educator" here.... stay focus son. Do you not know that people on this forum could care less about your attempt to educate one on here?... lmmfaoooo.

Anyway, because of what I stated in my earlier post reference you not being able to comprehend/sarcastic......and because you chose to ignore it, or not capable of answering it.... let me ask you this.... what do you think Judges do?... bfore/if you answer it.... remember what I said about Judicial being a very broad word/system. Now complete your spell/grammar check gather your notes and holla back at me.
Tina

Urbana, OH

#13 Feb 18, 2011
This is a sad story !!!

rwwllms

“If you can't be a good example”

Since: Mar 07

be a warning

#14 Feb 18, 2011
Tina wrote:
This is a sad story !!!
yep Justice's life is very sad, very pathetic. It would have been best for all if his mother had aborted.
justicedaddy

Maxton, NC

#15 Feb 18, 2011
im mine opining dadly force is jusifiy if you need to kill sombody

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#16 Feb 18, 2011
Justice wrote:
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let me ask you this.... what do you think Judges do?... bfore/if you answer it.... remember what I said about Judicial being a very broad word/system.
In a criminal trial, a judge's role is that of independant trier of fact and an advocate for the defendant against an overbearing state (ie the prosecutor).

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#17 Feb 18, 2011
justicedaddy wrote:
im mine opining dadly force is jusifiy if you need to kill sombody
Then you'll find yourself in prison. Catagorically, homicide is justified when a person is in real danger of serious bodily injury or death at the hands of another person(s).
Lonewolf

Leesville, SC

#18 Feb 19, 2011
He had no business on this man's property at 3 am, he got what he deserved.Let it be a message to all those little thugs out there.
JMR

Columbia, SC

#19 Feb 19, 2011
But, if the economy doesn't turn around soon, do you think we'll see more theft and robberies?

And, if out of desperation someone stole food, would we feel the same way about their punishment?
dmf

Hopkins, SC

#20 Feb 19, 2011
JMR wrote:
But, if the economy doesn't turn around soon, do you think we'll see more theft and robberies?
And, if out of desperation someone stole food, would we feel the same way about their punishment?
1yes 2no

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