Do we need a new girls basketball coach?

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Basketball Fan

Batesville, IN

#1 Nov 21, 2012
I have never seen such a poor excuse for coaches what did the A.D. Do pull the winner out of a hat?
uggg

Oxford, OH

#2 Nov 21, 2012
No he prolly got pressured by the norm locals (the ones that follow him around) to hire who they wanted. You know how it works in Liberty, the pushy families that think their kid is the star of everything gets their way. Always been that way always will.
Basketball Fan

Batesville, IN

#3 Nov 21, 2012
You would think a former A.D.. Would have a little bit of coaching knowledge, and how to pick a J.V. Coach. What a mess!!!
Basketball Fan

Batesville, IN

#4 Nov 21, 2012
Here in Union County school systems we do what's best for the school not what's best for student athlete.
BASKETBALLKNOWIT ALL

Loogootee, IN

#5 Nov 21, 2012
To answer the question to the title of this thread. H@ll yea the girls needed a new coach. You can complain all you want about this coach, but he has done more in the past 4 months, working with these girls, than the previous coach did in 10 years. Now i will agree the jv coach is a joke, not sure why he hired him. But you can't expect much this first year after whats happened the last several years with the previous coach. And i'm not saying the new coach hasn't made some mistakes, but the best coach is always in the stands.
Basketball Fan

Batesville, IN

#6 Nov 22, 2012
Just because the coach is a good person doesn't mean he is a good coach. You can run all the drills you want does help him in game time situation. Lost in the first 2 minutes, and never recovers. Of all three games that I watched I feel sorry for the girls and the fans of Union County basketball going to be a long long long season.
Baskeball coach

Batesville, IN

#7 Nov 22, 2012
BASKETBALLKNOWITALL wrote:
To answer the question to the title of this thread. H@ll yea the girls needed a new coach. You can complain all you want about this coach, but he has done more in the past 4 months, working with these girls, than the previous coach did in 10 years. Now i will agree the jv coach is a joke, not sure why he hired him. But you can't expect much this first year after whats happened the last several years with the previous coach. And i'm not saying the new coach hasn't made some mistakes, but the best coach is always in the stands.
Tony Gulley is the best thing that ever happen to the girls basketball. Only sectional title in school history. And one conference title. That just as good as the boys coach and he's still there. Sometimes the parents are the problem,.
Pitiful

Oakland City, IN

#8 Nov 22, 2012
How about a new UCHS football coach. How long are we going to let this program stay in the crapper? I do agree the great coaches are in the stands & the parents know it all (they won't play my little Freddie or Suzy). We've always had alot of Michael Jordans & Tamika Catchings riding the pines here @ UC, right? Parents need to grow up & quit trying to relive their failed sporting careers through their kids.
Not So Fast

Richmond, IN

#9 Nov 24, 2012
The last time I checked, his name is Pat Tafelski, not Jesus. This guy cannot work miracles in just 4-5 games. Maybe we need to realize that maybe we just are not very good. His heart is there and he is a good coach, Geno Auriema would not win with this team.
BASKETBALLKNOWIT ALL

Loogootee, IN

#10 Nov 25, 2012
Not So Fast wrote:
The last time I checked, his name is Pat Tafelski, not Jesus. This guy cannot work miracles in just 4-5 games. Maybe we need to realize that maybe we just are not very good. His heart is there and he is a good coach, Geno Auriema would not win with this team.
TOTALLY AGREE. WHOEVER SAID GULLEY WAS A GOOD COACH WONT KNOW WHO GENO IS. BUT NOW THEY WILL GOOGLE HIS NAME AND FIND OUT SO THEY CAN MAKE ANOTHER DUMB REMARK.
Baskeball coach

Batesville, IN

#11 Nov 25, 2012
Not So Fast wrote:
The last time I checked, his name is Pat Tafelski, not Jesus. This guy cannot work miracles in just 4-5 games. Maybe we need to realize that maybe we just are not very good. His heart is there and he is a good coach, Geno Auriema would not win with this team.
You are right , but the girl only lost one player from last years team. So we should win at least as many games as last year or probably more since Tony was such a bad coach,or is the problem the parent when there kids are terrible , and they think they are star.
Not So Fast

Rushville, IN

#12 Nov 26, 2012
Im not saying Tony was a bad coach, he obviously knows basketball since they won a couple conferences and a sectional during his time.When you already have a team that is not very good and then throw a new system at them you cannot realistically expect them to catch fire over night. They may not win a game at all. This is a rebuilding process! It will take a couple of years to see the success. The girls there now are just unfortunate guinea pigs in a lack of better terms.
Not So Fast

Rushville, IN

#13 Nov 26, 2012
I know/feel that i am going to catch some greef ov er this, but here i go. I honestly am a fan of the football coach. If you can please tell me of another football coach that we have had that has been more committed to the kids, and to the program I would be suprised.I really like some of things he does offensively and defensively. His play calling may be lacking some though. What we have got to realize is that talent does not win alone in this game. Attitude, work ethic, self pride, and testicular fortitude are way more important. The boys on our team obviously do not committ to the weightroom and you can tell that when you see them on the field with the other teams. Many of our talented kids over the last few years are LAZY, with the acception of a few. So many of what we called our talentd kids have such a view of entitlement, like they expect things to be given to them, and if you do not know where that comes from parents you are the ones who should be ashamed. Yes we have had talent over the last couple of years, but we are missing the three biggest components of success. Those are heart, commitment, and pride! The coach is not 100% of the problem... Now let the bashing of me begin and enjoy!!! This is just my opinion.......
BASKETBALLKNOWIT ALL

Loogootee, IN

#14 Nov 26, 2012
Not so Fast, I totally agree with you about the football coach, kids, and parents. Yea sometimes his play calling may be skeptical, but you can sit and watch any game from pee wee to the NFL and find something wrong. But Gulley won those titles when his daughters played. They were Two great athletes, and had some good players with them. After they were gone he did nothing. Never done anything with younger girls, and the last several years that has shown. He never done anything to try to promote the girls program either, (ie, fundraisers, apparel sales.)
Pitiful

Orleans, IN

#15 Nov 26, 2012
Not So Fast wrote:
I know/feel that i am going to catch some greef ov er this, but here i go. I honestly am a fan of the football coach. If you can please tell me of another football coach that we have had that has been more committed to the kids, and to the program I would be suprised.I really like some of things he does offensively and defensively. His play calling may be lacking some though. What we have got to realize is that talent does not win alone in this game. Attitude, work ethic, self pride, and testicular fortitude are way more important. The boys on our team obviously do not committ to the weightroom and you can tell that when you see them on the field with the other teams. Many of our talented kids over the last few years are LAZY, with the acception of a few. So many of what we called our talentd kids have such a view of entitlement, like they expect things to be given to them, and if you do not know where that comes from parents you are the ones who should be ashamed. Yes we have had talent over the last couple of years, but we are missing the three biggest components of success. Those are heart, commitment, and pride! The coach is not 100% of the problem... Now let the bashing of me begin and enjoy!!! This is just my opinion.......
Face facts, it all boils down to wins & losses. The current FB coach's winning % is what 15-20% over his career here? This is unacceptable. As for lack of comittment &laziness on the players part, that again falls on the coach. They should not be playing (or on the team) if that is the case. The coach has to be the motivator. Maybe he is still coaching because he is a fantastic assistant principal? LOL.
Pitiful

Orleans, IN

#16 Nov 26, 2012
BASKETBALLKNOWITALL wrote:
Not so Fast, I totally agree with you about the football coach, kids, and parents. Yea sometimes his play calling may be skeptical, but you can sit and watch any game from pee wee to the NFL and find something wrong. But Gulley won those titles when his daughters played. They were Two great athletes, and had some good players with them. After they were gone he did nothing. Never done anything with younger girls, and the last several years that has shown. He never done anything to try to promote the girls program either,(ie, fundraisers, apparel sales.)
I think everyone would agree that Tony is a nice guy & well liked in UC. I agree that his daughters & their team mates were very good & their records prove that, however he has not had much success since that time. The problem I have with Tony resigning (being forced out) is the same standards do not apply for the other HS athletic programs (football in specific). If Tony resigned (forced out)due to lack of wins, then the same standards should be applied to all programs. BTW, maybe Tony was just tired of coaching girls BB & was ready to leave?
Pitiful

Orleans, IN

#17 Nov 26, 2012
Don't know Tafelski from Adam, however he should be given a chance. It takes some time to turn a program around. Look @ Crean & IU - Crapper to #1.
Baskeball coach

Batesville, IN

#18 Nov 27, 2012
Pitiful wrote:
<quoted text>I think everyone would agree that Tony is a nice guy & well liked in UC. I agree that his daughters & their team mates were very good & their records prove that, however he has not had much success since that time. The problem I have with Tony resigning (being forced out) is the same standards do not apply for the other HS athletic programs (football in specific). If Tony resigned (forced out)due to lack of wins, then the same standards should be applied to all programs. BTW, maybe Tony was just tired of coaching girls BB & was ready to leave?
Tony had 2or3 winning season after his girls left. So that tells me that his system works, let just tell the truth the girls the past 3 years have not had much talent, and Tony does not have the responsibility in 3 or4 months to make them superstars, that's up to the parents,and the kid. But with most parents they are already superstars without putting any work into it!
Not So Fast

Rushville, IN

#19 Nov 27, 2012
I disagree with you on the commitment and laziness being the coaches fault. A lazy is a lazy kid because they have never had to work for anything, an example of that is many of the kids today and it is not just here. The problem with here is that it happens to be most of our so called talented kids. So if you do not play those "talented" people because they are lazy, then you are the idiot for not playing the talented kid. It is a no win situation! This is the same group of kids that feel they do not need to WORK to get better because they are the "talented" kids in the school. It goes back to the old saying "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink".
Pitiful wrote:
<quoted text>Face facts, it all boils down to wins & losses. The current FB coach's winning % is what 15-20% over his career here? This is unacceptable. As for lack of comittment &laziness on the players part, that again falls on the coach. They should not be playing (or on the team) if that is the case. The coach has to be the motivator. Maybe he is still coaching because he is a fantastic assistant principal? LOL.
Pitiful

Milltown, IN

#20 Nov 27, 2012
Not So Fast wrote:
I disagree with you on the commitment and laziness being the coaches fault. A lazy is a lazy kid because they have never had to work for anything, an example of that is many of the kids today and it is not just here. The problem with here is that it happens to be most of our so called talented kids. So if you do not play those "talented" people because they are lazy, then you are the idiot for not playing the talented kid. It is a no win situation! This is the same group of kids that feel they do not need to WORK to get better because they are the "talented" kids in the school. It goes back to the old saying "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink". <quoted text>
I will agree with you it may not be the coach's fault re: commitment & laziness, however that kid should not be playing (or possibly not be on the team). A kid has to have the inner will to want to excel & do well. If that kid does not & is lazy & lacks commitment, his or her attitude will rub off on their teammates thus causing major problems for the team. I'd rather have a less naturally talented kid who works their butt off than a talented lazy kid who doesn't give it 100%. A lazy, non-committed talented kid will eventually be a cancer to the team. Attitude is everything. jmo.

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