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Assembly sends SB 5 to Kasich | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 73 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Mar 31, 2011, titled Assembly sends SB 5 to Kasich | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Setting the stage for an epic battle at the ballot this November, Republican lawmakers gave final approval yesterday to a bill that weakens collective-bargaining power for about 360,000 public-union workers.

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Juan

Columbus, OH

#65 Mar 31, 2011
This bill would be more credible if Kasich had gone after the entitlement spending first (i.e. welfare, food stamps, housing assistnce, heat assistance, childcare, medical coverage for unemployed, dissability, etc.).

Instead he chose to go after a segment of society that actually shows up to work instead (even if you think public employees are lazy, they at least have a job).
LOL

United States

#66 Mar 31, 2011
Juan wrote:
This bill would be more credible if Kasich had gone after the entitlement spending first (i.e. welfare, food stamps, housing assistnce, heat assistance, childcare, medical coverage for unemployed, dissability, etc.).
Instead he chose to go after a segment of society that actually shows up to work instead (even if you think public employees are lazy, they at least have a job).
He's not finished yet.
Juan

Columbus, OH

#67 Mar 31, 2011
CRT wrote:
<quoted text> Quit you cry baby. There are thousands willing to take your place.
You are absolutely right, there are so many applicants applying to be Dayton Police Officers that the waiting list is years long. Wait, I got that backwards, Dayton can't even fill a new recruit class because the applicants can't pass the simple test to qualify. Clearly what we need to do is pay the few people that are smart enough to pass the test even less money, that will get better applicants for sure.

There may be thousands willing to work the job, but there are clearly very few that qualify for the position. Do you even understand how capitalism works? When you have to compete with other locations, pay needs to go up, you don't get better employees by paying less.
state employee

Kansas City, MO

#68 Mar 31, 2011
what everyone should feel threatened about is SB5 also states that a state employee is not allowed to talk to a senator or representative. Last time I checked the 1st amendment gives us that right. If these people want to be elected in public office then tells the people you can not call me. In my opinion that is a cowards way out. Also every senator and representative took an oath of office. In that oath they states:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same

Does this mean that they are domestic enemy? According to the oath they took they tried to violate the first amendment. That should be grounds for impeachment right there beccause they violated their oath.
Another Voice wrote:
It seems that the more and more that unions and democrats unite, the more and more that they forget the immortal words of "Ask not what your country (feel free to insert here - taxpayer, town, village, employer, city, school district) can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country."
If you feel threatened by SB5, perhaps you should quit now and move out of Ohio. Go to a real friendly union & democrat stronghold like Illinois or California and see how you like their tax rates!
Juan

Columbus, OH

#69 Mar 31, 2011
bumper sticker wrote:
Those most demanding of other people’s money vote Democrat.
Those most demanding the Fire Department show up and put out their house when it is on fire probably aren't complaining.
Juan

Columbus, OH

#70 Mar 31, 2011
Antagonist wrote:
<quoted text>
The police don't protect me or anyone else. They show up after the fact and make reports and investigate crime, serve papers, write tickets. I protect myself. Cut law enforcement 50% and you would see no real difference in your life.
Seriously? You are asking for anarchy.
reader

Kansas City, MO

#71 Mar 31, 2011
Matt
Now finish the rest of the story. The state also subsudizes charter schools. What do you think the voucher system is for. Quit talking in half truths here, you are starting to sound like the dispatch.
Matt wrote:
Unions have demonized themselves. I don't hear complaints about private sector unions, some unions i hear great stories about. All i hear about public unions is greed, selfishness.
Here is a stat for ya,
Yearly cost to send a kid to a public school $11,400 dollars
Yearly cost to send a kid to a private school $8,500 dollars
and stats have shown that private school kids get a better education, and guess what for less money. Makes you wonder how good those public union teachers are at there jobs, when they paid nearly 14000 more per year, not including benefits.
Just pure greed and selfishness. Time to bring things back to sustainability and fairness. You can't hide behind facts, the numbers don't lie. People will understand the true criminals here, the unions.
Juan

Columbus, OH

#72 Mar 31, 2011
LOL wrote:
<quoted text>
He's not finished yet.
Yes he is, his budget barely cut the programs I am speaking of. He campaigned on cutting all entitlement programs to the bare minimums, once in office the first thing he did was go after public employees (after giving his cabinet buddies a big fat raise).

He is liar.
state employee

Kansas City, MO

#73 Mar 31, 2011
Juan
That is exactly the words from Kasich, if you want better people you have to pay them a better price. That is why he paid his cabinet members more then stricklands. I guess in his rationale there are no public employees that are worth the money unless he picks them. Seems to me that Kasich is a do as I say not do as I do governor. He will say one thing if it pertains to him but if not then they are wrong. Just like when he criticized Strickland for using one time money and what is his plan. TO USE ONE TIME MONEY FROM THE SELL OF PRISONS. Looks to me that he is two faces.
Juan wrote:
<quoted text>
You are absolutely right, there are so many applicants applying to be Dayton Police Officers that the waiting list is years long. Wait, I got that backwards, Dayton can't even fill a new recruit class because the applicants can't pass the simple test to qualify. Clearly what we need to do is pay the few people that are smart enough to pass the test even less money, that will get better applicants for sure.
There may be thousands willing to work the job, but there are clearly very few that qualify for the position. Do you even understand how capitalism works? When you have to compete with other locations, pay needs to go up, you don't get better employees by paying less.
Antagonist

Newark, OH

#75 Mar 31, 2011
Juan wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously? You are asking for anarchy.
I didn't say do away with them, just reduce. Not for anarchy at all.
The police are not preventing anything anyway.
painful discharge

Powell, OH

#76 Mar 31, 2011
Juan wrote:
This bill would be more credible if Kasich had gone after the entitlement spending first (i.e. welfare, food stamps, housing assistnce, heat assistance, childcare, medical coverage for unemployed, dissability, etc.).
Instead he chose to go after a segment of society that actually shows up to work instead (even if you think public employees are lazy, they at least have a job).
It's because Kasich is out to help the Republican party, and perhaps his own Presidential aspirations-not help the State.
OhWell

Columbus, OH

#77 Mar 31, 2011
Matt wrote:
Unions have demonized themselves. I don't hear complaints about private sector unions, some unions i hear great stories about. All i hear about public unions is greed, selfishness.
Here is a stat for ya,
Yearly cost to send a kid to a public school $11,400 dollars
Yearly cost to send a kid to a private school $8,500 dollars
and stats have shown that private school kids get a better education, and guess what for less money. Makes you wonder how good those public union teachers are at there jobs, when they paid nearly 14000 more per year, not including benefits.
Just pure greed and selfishness. Time to bring things back to sustainability and fairness. You can't hide behind facts, the numbers don't lie. People will understand the true criminals here, the unions.
You are either a nutcase or a liar or both.
Unions are a response to right wing greed not the source of greed
Unions would not exist if greed and abuse were not there 1st.

People like you who have lived under the protection, benefits and wage standards of unions with out ever paying a dime or risking anything of their own or contributing a moment of their time are FREE LOADERS.

The Nutcase Right Are ALL FREE LOADERS
The Nutcase Right wants everything both ways
Free Services
NO Taxes
Free Labor
But Charge Your Blood For Their Products

Sorry This Is The Real World Not Freebee Land
OhWell

Columbus, OH

#80 Mar 31, 2011
Dublin Guy wrote:
<quoted text>Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt did not ffeel it was greed.
Get a Life You No Life Loser.
You Know NOTHING About FDR
You were not even a twinkle in someones shorts when FDR was president

Free Loaders Always Resort to Abuse and Lies when challenged
You never saw a freebee you would not take for granted just like the rest of the No Taxes free loading right wingers that want it all both ways and for free and pay no taxes, Never serve in the military and expect their kids to get all the grants and freebees...

The world is full of frreeeeloaders like that.
Bring back the draft and put the nutcase right wing free loaders to work in real work and sweat jobs where they real pay taxes and do their civic responsibility like the rest of us and their mommies don't pack their lunches and wipe their pants...

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