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Assembly sends SB 5 to Kasich | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 73 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Mar 31, 2011, titled Assembly sends SB 5 to Kasich | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Setting the stage for an epic battle at the ballot this November, Republican lawmakers gave final approval yesterday to a bill that weakens collective-bargaining power for about 360,000 public-union workers.

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Mary

Mount Gilead, OH

#2 Mar 31, 2011
It should be mentioned that in order to view the "truth" on the Republican created website mentioned in the article, you need to FIRST sign up to support SB5. Doesn't it seem shady to require someone to agree to something BEFORE giving them the information??
JMC

Overland Park, KS

#3 Mar 31, 2011
The public sector unions have been raping the taxpayers of Ohio for far too long. I'm proud of the fact that we finally have adults in Columbus that are looking out for us. Good job GOP!
Ben Dover

Columbus, OH

#4 Mar 31, 2011
"Rep. Louis Blessing, R-Cincinnati"
""We've got 10 percent of people without jobs. Be glad you have a job," he said.

"Would you rather have no job or a pay cut of 4 percent? That's basically what we're telling public employees. Congratulations, you've done a great job since (collective bargaining) was enacted 27 years ago, but the party's over. We can't afford it anymore.""

4 percent?? More mis info as some are looking at as much as a 15 percent hit.
FDR

Dublin, OH

#5 Mar 31, 2011
Mary wrote:
It should be mentioned that in order to view the "truth" on the Republican created website mentioned in the article, you need to FIRST sign up to support SB5. Doesn't it seem shady to require someone to agree to something BEFORE giving them the information??
Remember Obamacare? "We have to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it". Now that was shady.
Kabasi says just say no

Canal Winchester, OH

#6 Mar 31, 2011
Kudos to Kasich! Ohio is broke and these government unions are obsolete.
Heres to you

Philo, OH

#7 Mar 31, 2011
JMC dont call 911, you wont get the same service. How does it give the say back to the Public, dont you know that our Government has the say not the PEOPLE, we are headed the wrong way. Painful I say the same bring on the Referendum, its already proven that there are more against SB5 then for it. I dont want to hear one more person or Republican say how they blah blah our police and firem your nothing but BS and for yourselves. Wish I made what the governor makes, and do nothing but push paper, or all these big wigs who are making millions, and now will have more. So if the state is giving control back to what they think to the local, then lower my state taxes, you dont need them, as you dont have as big of a budget.
Jean

Chillicothe, OH

#9 Mar 31, 2011
Mary wrote:
It should be mentioned that in order to view the "truth" on the Republican created website mentioned in the article, you need to FIRST sign up to support SB5. Doesn't it seem shady to require someone to agree to something BEFORE giving them the information??
Actually, that's the Democrats' way of doing business. Remember the healthcare bill? Pelosi said we'd find out what was in it after it passed.
Macktrapper

Newark, OH

#11 Mar 31, 2011
I agree with the poster that said "bring on the referendum".

The unions will find out just how well they are loved by the rest of us.
teacher

Uhrichsville, OH

#12 Mar 31, 2011
Mary wrote:
It should be mentioned that in order to view the "truth" on the Republican created website mentioned in the article, you need to FIRST sign up to support SB5. Doesn't it seem shady to require someone to agree to something BEFORE giving them the information??
That was the same thing I thought when I went to this sight. Figured they would use it against you if you filled out the info. If they want you to understand it, then just show the info.
Kabasi says just say no

Canal Winchester, OH

#13 Mar 31, 2011
painful discharge wrote:
All those who believe in what Kasich is trying to do must have a chemical imbalance in their brains.
Maybe when they die they could donate their bodies to science so their brains could be cross sectioned and studied so that this type of dementia could be prevented in the future.
Bring on the referendum!
Ohio is out of money, wake up before it is too late! Kasich is a hero because he is willing to stand up against Sal Alinksy tactics and mobs led by Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson.
skessler

Columbus, OH

#14 Mar 31, 2011
Government does not have to strip "rights' from constituents to effect cost control. That is the point of "collective" bargaining. It seems that theRepublicans would prefer to hold all the aces in the deck when dealing with employees. It is not a level playing field, and all the state of Ohio has done has left all of its employees with Jokers for a hand.
Another Voice

Hilliard, OH

#15 Mar 31, 2011
It seems that the more and more that unions and democrats unite, the more and more that they forget the immortal words of "Ask not what your country (feel free to insert here - taxpayer, town, village, employer, city, school district) can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country."

If you feel threatened by SB5, perhaps you should quit now and move out of Ohio. Go to a real friendly union & democrat stronghold like Illinois or California and see how you like their tax rates!
FDR

Dublin, OH

#16 Mar 31, 2011
skessler wrote:
Government does not have to strip "rights' from constituents to effect cost control. That is the point of "collective" bargaining. It seems that theRepublicans would prefer to hold all the aces in the deck when dealing with employees. It is not a level playing field, and all the state of Ohio has done has left all of its employees with Jokers for a hand.
Where does the "right" for public sector employees to collectively bargain against their neighbors come from? Many private sector workers are unemployed or working two jobs to make a living, why should they have their money confiscated by the state to pay for better benefits than they have?
Jeanne

Findlay, OH

#17 Mar 31, 2011
"...no profession is exempt from economic reality..." "The party is over." True, true. I know you are my friend and neighbor. As my friend and neighbor, you know my family has less income than ever, why would you ask me to contribute to your benefits and retirement plan (age 55!!?)? Are you contributing to mine?
Although I am not a police officer, firefighter, teacher, or public school custodian, etc.....I am a "public servant." I serve those who cannot accept that my pocket is EMPTY!! My respect for you and your profession is waning.
PRA

Lewis Center, OH

#18 Mar 31, 2011
A fireman took a job knowing he'd never get rich. He has missed out on many holidays and time with family. He is expected to lay down his life when it's necessary. His life expectancy is shorter than ours because of the stress & the constant exposure to harmful chemicals. And some people think he's not deserving of a pension or healthcare benefits??

Since: Mar 11

United States

#19 Mar 31, 2011
The misinformation on this bill is from King John and his enablers. See you at the polls in November
Ben Dover

Columbus, OH

#20 Mar 31, 2011
Dispatch yopu need to remove this link from the article. It is not an informational site it is a setup. You are required to sign up in support of SB 5 before you can view the info about the bill.

Go here to see the bill in unbiased (well as much as possible) form.

www.legislature.state.oh.us
Too_late

Marion, OH

#21 Mar 31, 2011
"Local governments and taxpayers need control over their budgets," said House Speaker William G. Batchelder, R-Medina. "This bill will give control back to the people who pay the bill."

Dumb arse.
I'm a tax paying teacher.
I pay the bill, too. In 2 cities.
How in the heck can these dumb arse politicians be so ignorant by lumping all people into 2 categories (private and public)?

I vote republican.
My local House "representative" has lost my vote come next election IF it turns out they voted for this. I will check on it and I will campaign against his relection when due.
Gillmor lost my respect waaay back. In my eyes, she's history, too.
Government has made a tremendous mistake by alienating teachers and labeling all as being 100% Democrats.
This just isn't the case.
Big, BIG mistake.

The referendum will occur and many politicians will lose their seats some day soon.
Period.
Jen of Columbus

Pickerington, OH

#22 Mar 31, 2011
FDR wrote:
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Remember Obamacare? "We have to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it". Now that was shady.
We aren't talking about the Health Care Bill. We are talking about the Dispatch giving a promotional plug to the GOP website SB5truth.com . They are promoting the website as one that will "combat what they call the misinformation unions have been putting out about the bill." Once you get into the website, there is ABSOLUTELY NO INFORMATION. They want you to input your contact information. What is so secret about the bill that they won't post it online?

I think the website is the perfect example of what SB5 stands for: The Dispatch riles people up, the GOP create something flashy, but when you actually look into it, what you were told would be there isn't and all they want to do is take from you (in this case your contact info so they can spam you with their GOP emails).
Too_late

Marion, OH

#23 Mar 31, 2011
Before you attack me for being a foul-mouthed teacher, a - r - s - e is the word that was blocked.
And that word is waaaaaay too kind...

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