Copenhagen Firemens Field Day

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Concerned taxpayer

Theresa, NY

#1 Jul 28, 2013
Attended the Firemens Field Day yesterday. Had a several concerns: the food was not up to its usual high standards, hamburgers were horrible! They weren't washing the potatoes prior to cutting them into French fries and cooking, sorry dropping cut,up fries into a bucket of water is not washing them, discusting! Even the ladies chicken BBQ was below standard. The women in the kitchen and trophy room were arguing and bickering. The chicken was burnt on the outside and raw on the inside. You can't serve food that way.

Later at night I noticed some ruckus on the grounds. I was appalled when I see the chief of the department in a confrontation with a young man. He picked up and body slammed, punch several times, knelt on his neck pulled up his shirt and slap his stomach. The chief is a "big" man by stature. Everything I witness was an absolute disgrace. He asked the boy a question, must not liked his answer because he knelt on this neck again.

Why do the firemen drink during this event? I know the firemen have a,long history of working hard and playing harder, can't they play hard on the other 364 days of,the year. I did witness the first assit chief and another firemen grab the Chief and the victim to separate them.

To the young man, I'm sorry you went through that kind of treatment in our village. I hope you file a complaint with department and village officials. It will probably be the last field day I attend.

To,the department elected officials and village elected officials. The Copenhagen Fire Department used to be a source of pride for our community, not anymore.
washington st resident

Carthage, NY

#2 Jul 28, 2013
I'm not surprised that this went on. This is the same type of behavior we witnessed last year and the reason my family did not attend this year.

There are quite of a few really good people in Copenhagen Fire Department, unfortunately the amount of bad people have started to out number the good people.
Concerned taxpayer

Theresa, NY

#3 Jul 28, 2013
The young man in question lives on your street
who="washington st resident"]I'm not surprised that this went on. This is the same type of behavior we witnessed last year and the reason my family did not attend this year.
There are quite of a few really good people in Copenhagen Fire Department, unfortunately the amount of bad people have started to out number the good people.
a house

Newton Center, MA

#4 Jul 28, 2013
Quit complaining....stay home
Concerned Taxpayer

Theresa, NY

#5 Jul 28, 2013
I will stay home A House, but realize if we all stay home, you and the drill won't have anyone supporting your little waste of money venture. Maybe then you guys will pay for your new truck without mailing me letters begging for money. Kenworth, really a Kenworth, this little department needed the Cadillac of trucks.
washington st resident

United States

#6 Jul 28, 2013
What do they need a new truck for??? the 50 calls they go on a year? A used truck or a cheaper truck would have made much more sense.

Stay home??? That's a smart thing to tell the people who Support your department and the drill team.

Stop complaining, well since that department technically belongs to all tax payers in Copenhagen and I'm at tax payer, I will complain all I god dam please.

Grow the hell up, kick out some of "good ole boys", the alcoholics, rapists, and thieves out and I will stop complaining. Until then deal with the complaints!
grow up

Feeding Hills, MA

#7 Jul 28, 2013
I'm Brittany Crouse step daughter of Jim henry. I don't know who any of you are and don't care who you are! Until you get your asses out and volunteer you need to shut your damn traps! You sound like a bunch of whiners! The drill team has fundraisers the don't go around knocking on your doors asking for donations they bust their asses to earn this money! And the drilll team has there own money to spend it doesn't come from fire department. Get the real facts before you run your idiotic mouths!
Not an idiot

Theresa, NY

#8 Jul 28, 2013
Ms. Crouse, don't believe everything your told. The department funds the drill team a lot, Fuel, trucks, tolls, insurance on all those things. The legacy comp insurance cost our residents tens of thousands of dollars a year. Since you don't pay taxes in this village maybe you ought to get your facts straight and butt out our topix page and get involved your own communities. Idiot!
sonlynk12

Carthage, NY

#9 Jul 28, 2013
What's the difference between a fundraiser and going door to door asking for donations. Either way are they not using DONATED money to fund their little drinking fest?

I know a little more about the Copenhagen Drill team, then I would like to, because some one I know was dumb enough to join this boys club. They spend hours sitting it the Drill Team building drinking and just hanging out. I have been there with my buddy and seen it with my own two eyes.

Out of town trips are partially funded by the fire department.

The problem with this department is people like Jim Henry, and his clan. They are old men, who have no business in a fire department. It's not like they can run into a burning building anyway. what do they do besides drive the firetruck DRUNK!

I bet that also got swept under the rug!
readytomove

Carthage, NY

#10 Jul 28, 2013
A Chief that gets in an altercation, should either be suspended or relieved. Especially when said altercation occurs on fire department property during an event. How unprofessional.

It has been said to me that the Chief was defending himself. I was there, I saw this happen. He was certainly not defending himself. He was committing a crime and should be in jail.

Not all Copenhagen members are bad. I was broken down several months ago and a man with a blue truck and a gorgeous German Shepard dog stopped and helped me. He said he was a member of the drill team, although I do not know him from the community. He helped me get the old truck going, and when I offered to pay him, he refused.
notafanofu

Carthage, NY

#11 Jul 28, 2013
grow up wrote:
I'm Brittany Crouse step daughter of Jim henry. I don't know who any of you are and don't care who you are! Until you get your asses out and volunteer you need to shut your damn traps! You sound like a bunch of whiners! The drill team has fundraisers the don't go around knocking on your doors asking for donations they bust their asses to earn this money! And the drilll team has there own money to spend it doesn't come from fire department. Get the real facts before you run your idiotic mouths!
So that means your mother is Terri? Typically the apple does not fall far from the tree, and Terri is an absolute NUTCASE!

Fundraisers -- money from DONATIONS

door to door asking for DONATIONS....

who the hell cares how they get the donations...it's still a donation from the members of the community.

DUH
Disgrace

Pine Plains, NY

#12 Jul 29, 2013
It is sad to witness and only getting worse. I hear the latest is targeting a women fire fighter. I heard it directly from a dept member that they heard a death threat verbalized against her. Let me guess.. The dept member that made the threat, never got consequences? This dept doesn't have the moral back bone to defend honest good people, but we are expected to support the dept financially? It is time our village board takes complete control before there is a lawsuit!
Sad but true

Pine Plains, NY

#13 Jul 29, 2013
readytomove wrote:
A Chief that gets in an altercation, should either be suspended or relieved. Especially when said altercation occurs on fire department property during an event. How unprofessional.
It has been said to me that the Chief was defending himself. I was there, I saw this happen. He was certainly not defending himself. He was committing a crime and should be in jail.
Not all Copenhagen members are bad. I was broken down several months ago and a man with a blue truck and a gorgeous German Shepard dog stopped and helped me. He said he was a member of the drill team, although I do not know him from the community. He helped me get the old truck going, and when I offered to pay him, he refused.
. The young man your referring to I have known for many years. And your right, good guy. But why the hell he is associated with this group no one can figure out?! Lets hope the birds of a feather saying isn't true in his case! But he must see and hear what goes on and he still is with that group of people. Good people don't stick around on that team long after they realize all the wrong.
Fed up

Carthage, NY

#14 Jul 29, 2013
Any recent events have been taken care of. The person you refer to about the threat has been suspended for 90 days from any fire or drill events and property. I have no doubt the chief situation will be taken care.I have heard a lot of rumors lately. Someone who is in the department and stands up for what's right is now being penalized by the notorious clan and they are targeting his family for this. They are spreading malicious lies. Anyone that wants to deal with he said/ she said bull should move to Copenhagen, b/c it's full of it. Anyone who would marry into a family and lie just bc they are married to that family is a disgrace. And yes brittany they did send out letters begging for money to pay for the truck. You should not lie for anyone even if they are your spouse!
Concerned Taxpayer

Theresa, NY

#15 Jul 29, 2013
Fed up wrote:
Any recent events have been taken care of. The person you refer to about the threat has been suspended for 90 days from any fire or drill events and property. I have no doubt the chief situation will be taken care.I have heard a lot of rumors lately. Someone who is in the department and stands up for what's right is now being penalized by the notorious clan and they are targeting his family for this. They are spreading malicious lies. Anyone that wants to deal with he said/ she said bull should move to Copenhagen, b/c it's full of it. Anyone who would marry into a family and lie just bc they are married to that family is a disgrace. And yes brittany they did send out letters begging for money to pay for the truck. You should not lie for anyone even if they are your spouse!
The member you refer to was only suspended for 30 days. Village wanted 60 days.
washington st resident

Carthage, NY

#16 Jul 29, 2013
Fed up wrote:
Any recent events have been taken care of. The person you refer to about the threat has been suspended for 90 days from any fire or drill events and property. I have no doubt the chief situation will be taken care.I have heard a lot of rumors lately. Someone who is in the department and stands up for what's right is now being penalized by the notorious clan and they are targeting his family for this. They are spreading malicious lies. Anyone that wants to deal with he said/ she said bull should move to Copenhagen, b/c it's full of it. Anyone who would marry into a family and lie just bc they are married to that family is a disgrace. And yes brittany they did send out letters begging for money to pay for the truck. You should not lie for anyone even if they are your spouse!
I hope your information is accurate because the last time I spoke to her nothing had been done.
waskelywabbit

United States

#18 Jul 29, 2013
We are getting a bit off topic here people the discussion is not the drill team or the Henry/crouse train wreck...it is about the atrocity that went down at the field days saturday night between the chief and member of the community...enough with bashing anything and everything. Stay on point!!!
donottrustu

Carthage, NY

#19 Jul 29, 2013
I think the village should make the decision on how long the chief is suspended or if he is to be removed.

Was the chief arrested?
waskelywabbit

United States

#20 Jul 29, 2013
Negative the chief was not arrested the kid refused to call cops.
fellowfirefighte r

Watertown, NY

#21 Jul 29, 2013
This page is completly and utterly uncalled for. As sad as it is shit happens and everyone on this page trying to act like they have never done anything wrong in their life. So the chief did something that may or may not have been a smart move unless you were standing right there listning to everything that went on and what not no one has room to judge. I belong to a diff department and you cant go to a department around and find a perfect person that has not made an uh oh. You guys just want to pick on him cuz he was drinking. Big woop he works hard and does things for anyone at the drop of a hat and is a great man so you people wanna lecture him cuz hes drinking the next time any of you get near a drop of alochol i hope with every sip you take you feel like shit cuz your drinking after making a big deal out of him and the other firemen drinking better yet choke on your first few sips do us all a favor. You wanna lecture that us firemen drink well ya know what go through the shit we do and the demanding hundreds of hours of training were required to and see the burnt bodies or horrible car accidents or all the smells that never leave your nose. pulling your dead friends or family out of cars hours after being with them. we go through alot and have a drink or few now and then so sue us. As for the female firefighter comment sorry to say it but every female that joins a dept any where knows that its gonna be a tough road it took me a while of bustin my ass to earn respect as a fellow firefighter this is nothing new this goes back as long as fire departments have existed i have taken tons of shit and several comments but ya brush it off and show em hey i can take your shit just like the guys im not a lil girl cuz lets face it when it comes to the fire service ya gotta have thick skin and be tough its part of life. i will end my rant now so people can start their pissing and moaning about my post i just wrote and picking me apart blah blah blah basically making me laugh is all your gonna achieve but hey who am i to stop ya. Grow up tomorrow is a new day someone else will screw up some where and everyone will jump on the bandwagon of picking that person apart im sure glad so many of us never left high school

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