“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#18090 Mar 23, 2013
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#18091 Mar 23, 2013
FACT SHEET ON SADDAM'S DEFIANCE
OF UN RESOLUTIONS

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE

March 20, 2003

Saddam Hussein's Defiance of UNSCRs

Over the past 12 years, Iraq has violated more than seventeen United Nations Security Council Resolutions (UNSCRs) and remains in material breach of disarmament obligations. The Iraqi regime has also sought to circumvent economic sanctions. The UNSCRs required that Iraq declare and divest itself, under international supervision, of weapons of mass destruction and related programs, delivery systems and ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 kilometers; not commit acts of international terrorism, or allow others who commit such acts to operate in Iraqi territory; account for missing Kuwaitis and other individuals; return stolen Kuwaiti property and bear financial liability for damage from the Gulf War; and end repression of the Iraqi people.

Saddam Hussein is in violation of the following United Nations Security Council Resolutions:

UNSCR 1441 - November 8, 2002

-- Found that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its disarmament obligations.

-- Gave Iraq a final opportunity to comply.

-- Demanded that Iraq submit a currently accurate, full and complete declaration of its weapons of mass destruction and related programs within 30 days.

-- Demanded that Iraq cooperate immediately, unconditionally and actively with the UN inspections.

-- Decided that false statements or omissions in Iraq's declarations and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with and cooperate fully in the implementation of this resolution would constitute further material breach.

-- Recalls that the Security Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations.

UNSCR 1284 - December 17, 1999

-- Created the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) to replace previous weapon inspection team (UNSCOM).

-- Iraq must allow UNMOVIC "immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access" to Iraqi officials and facilities. Iraq must fulfill its commitment to return Gulf War prisoners.

-- Calls on Iraq to distribute humanitarian goods and medical supplies to its people and address the needs of vulnerable Iraqis without discrimination.

UNSCR 1205 - November 5, 1998

-- "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 31 October 1998 to cease cooperation" with UN inspectors as "a flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687 and other resolutions.

-- Iraq must provide "immediate, complete and unconditional cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspectors.

UNSCR 1284 - December 17, 1999

-- Created the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) to replace previous weapon inspection team (UNSCOM).

-- Iraq must allow UNMOVIC "immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access" to Iraqi officials and facilities. Iraq must fulfill its commitment to return Gulf War prisoners.

-- Calls on Iraq to distribute humanitarian goods and medical supplies to its people and address the needs of vulnerable Iraqis without discrimination.

UNSCR 1205 - November 5, 1998

-- "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 31 October 1998 to cease cooperation" with UN inspectors as "a flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687 and other resolutions.

-- Iraq must provide "immediate, complete and unconditional cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspectors.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#18092 Mar 23, 2013
UNSCR 1194 - September 9, 1998

-- "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 5 August 1998 to suspend cooperation with" UN and IAEA inspectors, which constitutes "a totally unacceptable contravention" of its obligations under UNSCR 687, 707, 715, 1060, 1115, and 1154.

-- Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors, and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.

UNSCR 1154 - March 2, 1998

-- Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access, and notes that any violation would have the "severest consequences for Iraq."

UNSCR 1137 - November 12, 1997

-- "Condemns the continued violations by Iraq" of previous UN resolutions, including its "implicit threat to the safety of" aircraft operated by UN inspectors and its tampering with UN inspector monitoring equipment.

-- Reaffirms Iraq's responsibility to ensure the safety of UN inspectors.

-- Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.

UNSCR 1134 - October 23, 1997

-- "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.

-- Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.

-- Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.

UNSCR 1115 - June 21, 1997

-- "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "clear and flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.

-- Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.

-- Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.

UNSCR 1060 - June 12, 1996

-- "Deplores" Iraq's refusal to allow access to UN inspectors and Iraq's "clear violations" of previous UN resolutions.

-- Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.

UNSCR 1051 - March 27, 1996

-- Iraq must report shipments of dual-use items related to weapons of mass destruction to the UN and IAEA.

-- Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.

UNSCR 949 - October 15, 1994

-- "Condemns" Iraq's recent military deployments toward Kuwait.

-- Iraq must not utilize its military or other forces in a hostile manner to threaten its neighbors or UN operations in Iraq.

-- Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors.

-- Iraq must not enhance its military capability in southern Iraq. UNSCR 715 - October 11, 1991

-- Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#18093 Mar 23, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Disagree, I have a relative who was getting ready to get out of the Corps and was frozen by orders of Bush, then was deployed to the invasion of Iraq.
Sry for your cousin but your wrong. They still volunteered.
Remember the whiners of the 1st conflict whined, cried & moaned on TV that enlisted for the education benefits, NOT combat. They were obviously in error.
Unless the recruiter lied, EVERYONE signs papers explaining their obligations. Mine was the same, 2 years of recall/inactive reserves. A fact that I volunteered for, so did your cousin in some way or form.
Thomas Scutillo

Aberdeen, OH

#18095 Mar 23, 2013
DIPLOMATIC FORCE into the military is what? compelling thats right
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18096 Mar 23, 2013
18WheeledBrainTrust wrote:
<quoted text>
No, no spin boy. Lying is what Bush did with Congress to push forward an agenda that didn't benefit Americans. I said WE didn't benefit from all that oil in Iraq. Nice try though, truck driving weather man.
Okay, so if he have no Iraqi oil, and we don't have lower gasoline prices, how did we benefit from the Iraq oil?

You don't know what a lie is. A lie is when somebody says something that is not what they know to be. In order to prove one lied, one must first prove that they knew differently than what they said in the first place. Examples:

"Under my administration, nobody making under $250,000 per year will see a tax increase of any kind."
Barack Insane DumBama

"I did not have sex with that woman.......... Ms Lewinski"
Bill Clinton

"We're talking about millions of kids dying, being shot down by assault weapons."
Charles Rangel

See, these are all lies. Now that we know what a lie is, please tell us what Bush lied about.

"
Jim

Cincinnati, OH

#18098 Mar 23, 2013
"Bush's Top 10 Lies, Exaggerations And 'Obsfucations'
About His Military Service"

http://archive.democrats.com/display.cfm...
Jim

Cincinnati, OH

#18099 Mar 23, 2013
The Five Biggest Lies Bush Told Us About Iraq
http://catalog.sevenstories.com/products/five...
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#18101 Mar 23, 2013
18WheeledBrainTrust wrote:
<quoted text>
No, no spin boy. Lying is what Bush did with Congress to push forward an agenda that didn't benefit Americans. I said WE didn't benefit from all that oil in Iraq. Nice try though, truck driving weather man.
Why in the world do you use 'truck driver' as a derogatory term? Except for public transportation IE: buses & taxis, EVERYTHING Is carried by TRUCK at some time which means that you couldn't buy groceries without a truck driver. That means that you would starve to death which is not an unpleasant thought.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#18103 Mar 23, 2013
Jim wrote:
The Five Biggest Lies Bush Told Us About Iraq
http://catalog.sevenstories.com/products/five...
I have a response for every one of these so called lies & obsfucations that are listed here but pls allow me to be somewhat brief by focusing on one. I have said for YEARS that the WMD's that were NOT found BUT we knew that Saddam used WMD's against the Iranians & the Kurds.
I have said for YEARS that the concern should be where those weapons went to since we didn't find them although they were clearly in existence.
NOW the press is talking about the WMD's that Syria has. Hmmm
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#18104 Mar 23, 2013
Hugh Stammering Jackass wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean sending American soldiers off to die needlessly in Iraq for a rightwing oil agenda opened up a couple jobs here in the states? Don't you have a "Civil War 2" to be getting ready for? Guess you toothless racist hillbillies didn't learn the first time you played that little game.
Nice, though, that you decided to come out from under your bed from the last time you peeked your little rich boy head out of that rabbit hole and got spanked.
Actually, only time will tell if US deaths in IRAQ were needless. And as far as 'toothless racist hillbillies' goes, your benile, immature name calling shows your lack of intelligence, valid argument & hostility of your attitude.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18105 Mar 24, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Why in the world do you use 'truck driver' as a derogatory term? Except for public transportation IE: buses & taxis, EVERYTHING Is carried by TRUCK at some time which means that you couldn't buy groceries without a truck driver. That means that you would starve to death which is not an unpleasant thought.
Thank you for setting him straight about truck drivers and the transportation industry in general. I remember many years ago when most outfits were union. The people panicked at the thought of a possible truck drivers strike. They ran to the stores to stock up on items like they are today with guns and ammunition. Nobody knew if or when they would be able to purchase the products they were used to buying every week.

I guess Mr.Canton believes that since he works in a steel factory of some kind, he is above people of different careers. Of course, working in a steel company is not a career. General manual labor is on it's way out the door. While you don't need a masters degree to drive a truck, at least I was smart enough to learn a profession; a profession that many people can't (or don't have the guts) to do; a profession where I don't have to worry about being on unemployment because the skills I acquired at my last job were only good at my last job and nowhere else. I can move job to job or state to state. As long as I maintain my outstanding safety record, my skills are always in demand even in this terrible economy. I don't want to be like those UAW people who screwed nuts onto bolts complaining that my occupation no longer pays livable wages at other companies.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18106 Mar 24, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I have a response for every one of these so called lies & obsfucations that are listed here but pls allow me to be somewhat brief by focusing on one. I have said for YEARS that the WMD's that were NOT found BUT we knew that Saddam used WMD's against the Iranians & the Kurds.
I have said for YEARS that the concern should be where those weapons went to since we didn't find them although they were clearly in existence.
NOW the press is talking about the WMD's that Syria has. Hmmm
Some of Saddam's defectors came to the US and told our agents that his WMD's were designed to be moved in 24 hours. While we have great technology, we can't see into Iraq on a cloudy day or during a sand storm with our satellites. Once inside Iraq, we even found plans for the development of nuclear arms that Saddam had in his possession.

Oh, but Bush lied to us about the dangers of Iraq. I guess he wasn't alone. Here is what the Democrats said about Saddam while Clinton was still President:

Jim

Cincinnati, OH

#18107 Mar 24, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I have a response for every one of these so called lies & obsfucations that are listed here but pls allow me to be somewhat brief by focusing on one. I have said for YEARS that the WMD's that were NOT found BUT we knew that Saddam used WMD's against the Iranians & the Kurds.
I have said for YEARS that the concern should be where those weapons went to since we didn't find them although they were clearly in existence.
NOW the press is talking about the WMD's that Syria has. Hmmm
It goes to show you can not believe what the government tells the people of the U.S. they lie. Or they keep saying the same thing in hopes the public will believe what they say. It is really bad when you can't trust government officials.

It is no different than what goes on in city of village governments, as well as the police officials. They seem to have their own agenda so they can do what hey want to do (making the rules up as the go along). They lie to the people. Do they think everyone is stupid to believe what they tell them? We need honest officials not ones with their own agendas.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#18108 Mar 24, 2013
Reality Votes wrote:
<quoted text>
We've already seen your laughable prediction skills. We also already heard your blabbering mouth with talk of armed revolutions and you running like a coward traitor to another country. Run little scared bunny. So far you are zero for zero.
keep stupid, you will make easy prey.
Reality Took A Vacation

Canton, OH

#18109 Mar 24, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
keep stupid, you will make easy prey.
Spoken like a true, hasbeen whackjob. You don't scare anyone, little girl.
PipeDownOldMan

Canton, OH

#18110 Mar 24, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Why in the world do you use 'truck driver' as a derogatory term? Except for public transportation IE: buses & taxis, EVERYTHING Is carried by TRUCK at some time which means that you couldn't buy groceries without a truck driver. That means that you would starve to death which is not an unpleasant thought.
The real question is, who thinks a truck driver is an expert on global weather trends? Not me. Get it right, Pappy.
PipeDownOldMan

Canton, OH

#18111 Mar 24, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, only time will tell if US deaths in IRAQ were needless. And as far as 'toothless racist hillbillies' goes, your benile, immature name calling shows your lack of intelligence, valid argument & hostility of your attitude.
Perhaps if we ask the soldiers what they accomplished in Iraq. Oh that's, right. I already did.

"Jack Sh1t"
RayLuvsHardCoreP orn

Canton, OH

#18112 Mar 24, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, so if he have no Iraqi oil, and we don't have lower gasoline prices, how did we benefit from the Iraq oil?
You don't know what a lie is. A lie is when somebody says something that is not what they know to be. In order to prove one lied, one must first prove that they knew differently than what they said in the first place. Examples:
"Under my administration, nobody making under $250,000 per year will see a tax increase of any kind."
Barack Insane DumBama
"I did not have sex with that woman.......... Ms Lewinski"
Bill Clinton
"We're talking about millions of kids dying, being shot down by assault weapons."
Charles Rangel
See, these are all lies. Now that we know what a lie is, please tell us what Bush lied about.
"
What part of "we did not benefit from the Iraq war" are you too inbred to comprehend?

So Clinton banged a fat girl. At least he's not groping little kids. You know, like a rightwing Christian Conservative.

As far as assault weapons, a special thanks goes out to the NRA, for putting an AK47 in the hands of 16 year old urban kids. That is known as a fact. I know...it's a new concept to you.
PG13Raytard

Canton, OH

#18113 Mar 24, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Some of Saddam's defectors came to the US and told our agents that his WMD's were designed to be moved in 24 hours. While we have great technology, we can't see into Iraq on a cloudy day or during a sand storm with our satellites. Once inside Iraq, we even found plans for the development of nuclear arms that Saddam had in his possession.
Oh, but Bush lied to us about the dangers of Iraq. I guess he wasn't alone. Here is what the Democrats said about Saddam while Clinton was still President:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hjgquIN4RrwXX
Yah, the Bush administration really put that dictator in his place...

http://www.counter-currents.com/wp-content/up...
http://justifiedright.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834...

Darn the easy access to information on the internet with those historically documented facts...or what I like to call "The reason why the GOP's game got shut down"

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