JROB

Connersville, IN

#205 Jun 11, 2014
Don't you love people like OVER BUDGET who have never accomplished and damn thing, I mean nothing in there slimy life but like the cowards they are sit behind a computer and prove there lack of intelligence by posting this crap. Crow, they wont take you up on your offer. Freaking numb skull punk cowards.......... Who is the drag queen he runs around with?
HAHA

Detroit, MI

#206 Jun 12, 2014
a vote will be taken to have a town paid fire chief in the next year. No big secret.
Spectator

French Lick, IN

#207 Jun 12, 2014
HAHA wrote:
a vote will be taken to have a town paid fire chief in the next year. No big secret.
Will this be a town council vote or will this be on a public ballot seeing how it will be tax dollars funding the position?

Personally, I think a paid fire chief position is not needed. We don't have the zoning and etc that French Lick & West Baden have. The fire chiefs of those town enforce those rules/laws. We can't get our town to properly enforce the rules we have currently. Paoli has gone to hell. We have only a park and a fire house to show for anything. The towns infrastructure is going to hell. Other towns have nice construction and etc to show. What do we have...? NOTHING!
Sally

Connersville, IN

#208 Jun 12, 2014
HAHA or TM your a nit wit. The town of Paoli already has a fire chief. His name is Jason Parks and has been chief since 2010. He was reappointed in January. Read a freaking paper. To add to that he already is a PAID chief and has been since 2010 so you have no idea what you are talking about. A brain is a terrible thing to waste. NO BIG SECRET

And Spectator in government class we learn who is elected and who is appointed. State constitution dictates that government officials are elected. A police chief, fire chief, water worker, electric worker or any other town employees is appointed or hired. Tax dollars are used to pay the electric, street, water and sewer department workers however those positions are not voted on by the public nor should they be. Make sense? Fire chiefs are not elected anywhere in this country but are appointed or hired. FL and WB chose to have the Fire Chief serve as ordinance officers. Typically towns and cities have ordnance officers and building code enforcement officers and that is all they do. FL and WB are the exception not the rule. They choose to have the chief act as ordinance officer but it is not typical. According to the paper the town of Paoli is now tearing down abandon houses and mowing at least 20 abandon properties in town. Seems you are going on some bad info and I am sorry you are such a negative person. I gather you will be moving soon.

So to re cap the town of Paoli already has a PAID FIRE CHIEF and has for a few years now.
Dave

Connersville, IN

#209 Jun 12, 2014
Paoli is in the process of getting zoning. Will probably be in place within the year. Also in the paper.....
----------xyz

Detroit, MI

#210 Jun 13, 2014
Our current fire chief is neither full or part time but on call 24-7 and is paid by the state not the town. He is also honest, trustworthy, and generally cares about the people of Paoli. Something you are not and don't. We are lucky to have him. He has held the dept together and does a hell of a good job!
Dave

Connersville, IN

#211 Jun 13, 2014
Paid by the state. What are you talking about. The state has nothing to do with paying any towns or cities salaries. You need to educate yourself a bit. States do not pay municipalities salaries. The municipality pays the salary. Wow.................... It is amazing to me how people comment on something they no absolutely nothing about. One person thinks that these positions are voted on and another thinks the state pays salaries of town employees. It is 100% wrong that the state pays this salary. If you want to educate yourself call the state auditors office and ask. Google the number and ask for the salary breakdown of the Paoli fire chief. When they get done laughing they will tell you to call your local municipality for that information because that is who pays the salary. See what you don't understand is municipalities are funded by local taxes. Taxes that are generated here are allocated here. The state pays state workers a town or city pays its own workers from tax revenue generated in its own county. It is 100% not a state funded salary. But I can see how that would confuse some.....
who cares

Richmond, IN

#212 Jun 13, 2014
Fact is he is a better fire chief than you can ever be. He cares for this town and does it as a service. Your just an old douche.
Spectator

French Lick, IN

#213 Jun 16, 2014
@Dave:
1. For me posting once on here you are pretty condoscending. I'm going to assume you are Mark Jones or one of his friends. So, this behavior is expected out of Mark.
2. Paoli's lack of enforcement over the years has snowballed into a big mess.
3. Yes, Dutch Parks has been compensated for services.$17,930.07 for 2013 and $18,132.16 in 2012. Yes, he is a good person.
3. The voted thing I was talking about was see if the public thinks you should be added new positions. It is tax money used and so citizens should get a way to express their opinion. Whether it be in the form of a vote or at the council sessions. If they choose to express their opinion at the council session, then the council should be respectful and not be rude and condoscending.
4. I won't be moving by the way.
Boom Boom

Detroit, MI

#214 Jun 16, 2014
Spectator wrote:
@Dave:
1. For me posting once on here you are pretty condoscending. I'm going to assume you are Mark Jones or one of his friends. So, this behavior is expected out of Mark.
2. Paoli's lack of enforcement over the years has snowballed into a big mess.
3. Yes, Dutch Parks has been compensated for services.$17,930.07 for 2013 and $18,132.16 in 2012. Yes, he is a good person.
3. The voted thing I was talking about was see if the public thinks you should be added new positions. It is tax money used and so citizens should get a way to express their opinion. Whether it be in the form of a vote or at the council sessions. If they choose to express their opinion at the council session, then the council should be respectful and not be rude and condoscending.
4. I won't be moving by the way.
Yes, i agree with your comment. They sound old and bitter.. Maybe they are upset now that the fire dept has quality leadership as chief?
Sally

United States

#215 Jun 16, 2014
Seems Spectator, boom boom and who care are not only uninformed, uneducated but it seems the have an uninformed, uneducated ax to grind. Those kind of people can not be taught anything cause they would rather make up the facts as they go Then when they are given the correct information they get mad because they are proved otherwise. State law dictates what subject mater can be voted on by the public and what can't. This is called a referendum. All I am asking is you educate yourself on a subject before you make comments that are incorrect and not thought through. Just because you think something or want something does not mean it is so. 100% of the items you have mentioned are not so and it does not work that way. I know its the internet and everything you read hear is the truth. You know like the french model but just because your jaded and biased doesn't make what you say the truth. And I don't know anything about the current leadership but one way to find out is to ask every firefighter what they think about the leadership. I think that would be an unbiased way to do it. But sometimes when one asks a question of the boots on the ground or the people in the situation, one doesn't always get the answer they want. They would be the ones to ask. Not me or you............
Dave

United States

#216 Jun 16, 2014
Not being condescending but when you get on a website and say something that is totally off base to make someone look good or bad you should be called out on it. Your information was 100% incorrect and you where simply given the facts, the proper information. If that bothers you or you take it as being condescending than maybe you should not put out false information. Don't kill the messenger just post the correct information.
And yes he is one of my friends who is a solid person. When he tells me something I know it is the truth. Can't get that with everyone if you know what I mean.
Bobby Joe

United States

#217 Jun 16, 2014
I agree with the person who said they shouldn't be paid. Maybe if he truly loves the town as you say he does he would do it for free or reduced pay. That seems like a lot for part time. I also agree that the people who should be asked how things are going is the firefighters themselves.. Maybe I will do a survey and get back with the results.
we want the truth

United States

#218 Jun 16, 2014
Does someone who loves the town as you say he does take an antique scoop from an auction he is working at for the fire department and put it in a pan taking it home without paying for it? yep someone saw that one and told me it was the chief. that was the person you say cars so much for the town. he knows he done it and someone in his family new he done it to. corruption all around.
use your eyes

Detroit, MI

#219 Jun 17, 2014
So you didnt see it for yourself did you? We have a honest and trustworthy fire chief and he does it for peanuts compared to what the former chief wanted to do it for in 2008. To the tune of 40K a year. So, we know you are wanting the chief job and will try and tarnish a good persons name to get get it because thats the type of person you are. We have a REAL fire chief now. No need to downgrade.
Sam Ray

Indianapolis, IN

#221 Jun 18, 2014
Paoli is a nice little town. My family is native to the area. I was raised in Borden but spent my summers here. I chose to move here because I love the area. There many things that Paoli needs to change or get onboard with. Zoning is one, but as another person pointed out its in the works. There's a lot of gruff about the new fire station. I don't know many of the details other than what's been published in the paper. We needed something other than what we have currently. As for the paid fire chief, I think a full time position is fine as long as things are being done. Im guessing the compensation mentioned above is for runs and etc. I don't know Dutch personally. I've only heard great things about him. Corruption stuff: well every small town has its share I'm sure. You need proof before you can accuse someone of it.

I think the bickering and arguing on here is very childish. Anyone can be all gutsy and big behind a computer or smartphone screen. If there are legitimate concerns take them to council meetings and be civil when you present them. I'm sure the town folks will listen and discuss reasonably. If the corruption is there and you have proof then report it. If you are too lazy to do this then keep quiet. No one likes a town crier. Change comes from actions... not whining. Notice that I'm a blunt and straight forward person. I also used my real name. I'm not afraid of saying what I believe or what folks think of me. I refuse to pretend to be someone I'm not and hide behind aliases or etc. Hopefully, this silliness can stop and progress made in our community.
Just an honest fact

Bowling Green, KY

#222 Jul 18, 2014
Just to shed some light on the facts! Troy Mitchell was sent a summons 5/25/06 by Mark Jones wife Beth Jones, Troy was sued over the property on Unionville road, JC Tucker was the attorney for Doris stringer and Carol Clevedence , JC tucker was also the towns attorney! Troy Mitchell won the case against him, and in 11/22/06! JC Tucker held up Troy Mitchells deed until Mark Jones purchased the front half of the said property 2/17/07!! Troy Mitchell then received his paper work to file for his deed, Mark Jones admits even on this site that he had to buy the property and zone it himself, this is a clear cut and dry case that Beth Jones as the elected position as Orange County Clerk and Mark Jones as the Fire Department Chief and a board member of the Town of Paoli, and JC Tucker as the Town of Paoli attorney all were in on the sabotage to stop Troy Mitchell from Trailers on his private property! These are Positions of Public Trust, they willfully violated the Conflicts of interest LAWS, They tried every angle to stop this guy! the City Police were used many times, Mark Jones called and the Police came on Troy Mitchells property with out a warrant threatening Troy Mitchell, the Police log will tell how many time Mark Jones called! Mark had the town employees locating where the sewer and water lines were located ! Marks campaign against Troy forced troy to sell to James, the proof that Troy was not going to be able to put in the said water and sewer taps, is when James paid for those taps they denied him! These good ole boys had all the funds since the run this town and Mark said that he didn't want to assume that James did not have the MONEY! They knew Troy didn't have the money to fight them! These guys conspired to destroy anything TROY MITCHELL tried to do to better his family, then Mark Jones tells Troy to cut his hair and get a job! Well he has one now fighting this Town for the damages caused by these GOOD OLE BOYS!!!!!!!!!! These type of criminals to this day still go unpunished , There are e-mails that tell what they really did, and more than that theft of public funds, Maybe one day these officials will be brought to justice!
Sam Ray

French Lick, IN

#223 Jul 23, 2014
Just an honest fact wrote:
Just to shed some light on the facts! Troy Mitchell was sent a summons 5/25/06 by Mark Jones wife Beth Jones, Troy was sued over the property on Unionville road, JC Tucker was the attorney for Doris stringer and Carol Clevedence , JC tucker was also the towns attorney! Troy Mitchell won the case against him, and in 11/22/06! JC Tucker held up Troy Mitchells deed until Mark Jones purchased the front half of the said property 2/17/07!! Troy Mitchell then received his paper work to file for his deed, Mark Jones admits even on this site that he had to buy the property and zone it himself, this is a clear cut and dry case that Beth Jones as the elected position as Orange County Clerk and Mark Jones as the Fire Department Chief and a board member of the Town of Paoli, and JC Tucker as the Town of Paoli attorney all were in on the sabotage to stop Troy Mitchell from Trailers on his private property! These are Positions of Public Trust, they willfully violated the Conflicts of interest LAWS, They tried every angle to stop this guy! the City Police were used many times, Mark Jones called and the Police came on Troy Mitchells property with out a warrant threatening Troy Mitchell, the Police log will tell how many time Mark Jones called! Mark had the town employees locating where the sewer and water lines were located ! Marks campaign against Troy forced troy to sell to James, the proof that Troy was not going to be able to put in the said water and sewer taps, is when James paid for those taps they denied him! These good ole boys had all the funds since the run this town and Mark said that he didn't want to assume that James did not have the MONEY! They knew Troy didn't have the money to fight them! These guys conspired to destroy anything TROY MITCHELL tried to do to better his family, then Mark Jones tells Troy to cut his hair and get a job! Well he has one now fighting this Town for the damages caused by these GOOD OLE BOYS!!!!!!!!!! These type of criminals to this day still go unpunished , There are e-mails that tell what they really did, and more than that theft of public funds, Maybe one day these officials will be brought to justice!
If there is all this mounting evidence... then why not report it to the Attorney General? I'm sure the AG isn't part of "the good ole boys"... It only makes sense. If you have the evidence then report it... if the evidence only lives in your head due to hallucinations... well if I was you I'd keep that to myself so you don't make yourself look silly.

I've heard bits and pieces of this "trailer" saga. Not sure of any of the details. The last thing Paoli needs is another trailer park. From what I hear thats all it was going to be. I live next to two single wide duplex trailers and I wish they weren't there. They stink and are a breeding ground for the stray cats. Many cities and towns have ordinances governing trailers.

So, in short. If you have evidence that is credible, report it. If not, shut your mouth. This country is full of crazies as it is. No need to add to the population.
peaceoflife

Torrance, CA

#224 Aug 19, 2014
Carl wrote:
He is a piece of crap. Lazy, loser drunk. He is the only person on here that has been arrested. His wrap sheet is at the jail but bring a brief case with you. He is too lazy to work so he makes up stories about people who he claims have done him wrong. He says he talks to the FBI and the CIA about these people. The only people he needs to talk to is the people in in the pysic ward.
Well this sounds like someone to
that has Blown in to ur town
B T Drugs using people
U need more than FBI And CIA to
Get this one
Cricket

Mitchell, IN

#225 Aug 20, 2014
I heard today on WUME that the new fire station was basically finished but didn't give the final cost of it. Does anyone know the final cost?

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